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anatta said:
INTEL has it's own agenda -and "da Russians" are the prime targets for gullible fools like yourself to swallow
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Oh word? What's their agenda, then?

Your agenda is to deny the coordination with Russia, and you do that by spreading Active Measures like the lies about mail-in voting, the lies about COVID, and the lies about Biden's mental health.

You've lied about all of that, and those lies are Active Measures as described by DHS.

So who are we to believe? Government agencies, or someone who lied about getting an unsolicited mail-in ballot????
 
LV426 said:
Yes, he was in contact with Russians...he personally asked Kilmnik to give the polling data to Deripaska.

Like, literally...he literally asked that via e-mail and text message.

This is what the GOP Senate confirms.
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Mueller’s investigators could not find evidence that Manafort coordinated his actions with the Russian's.

There was not one single case of Russian collusion -except by Hillary Clinton as we now know
thanks to Brennans handwritten noted
 
LV426 said:
So...this right here is a Russian Active Measure. You just can't help yourself, can you? Russia's goal is to undermine our confidence in our Intel Agencies to give yourself cover for the wholesale rejection of your alternative history.

Trump and his people were openly and brazenly colluding with Russia.

Manafort literally asked Kilmnik to give the GOP polling data to Deripaska.

All this time, you've been saying "no contact with Russia"...but that's not true at all. You lied. Again. Just like you lied about the unsolicited mail-in ballot.
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It's a real shame you still believe INTEL, when they lied us into 2 major wars and a regime change. They are trying to gin up Cold War 2, and suckers like you support them
 
anatta said:
so what? it means absolutely nothing.
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It means that Deripaska knew to where he should direct the troll army to undermine the US election.

That's how they knew to target Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin...but more importantly, that's how they knew WHERE in those states and WHOM in those states to target.


Even a partisan hack like Andrew Weissman couldn't make that into any type of Russian collusion-
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Oh he did, you just refuse to accept it. First, you denied Manafort even did that. Then, you tried to say Kilmnik was a US asset. THEN, you tried to say the thing you previously denied happened, is of no consequence.

So that's 3 goalpost shifts.

YOUR ORIGINAL POSITION WAS THAT THERE WAS NO CONTACT WITH RUSSIA AT ALL.

That was a lie, wasn't it?
 
LV426 said:
Oh word? What's their agenda, then?

Your agenda is to deny the coordination with Russia, and you do that by spreading Active Measures like the lies about mail-in voting, the lies about COVID, and the lies about Biden's mental health.

You've lied about all of that, and those lies are Active Measures as described by DHS.

So who are we to believe? Government agencies, or someone who lied about getting an unsolicited mail-in ballot????
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a constant cold war footing. It makes them important -otherwise detente trims their sales
"Putin has his eyes on the Baltics" / "Putin threatens Poland" etc.

NATO expansion is the culprit -we lied to Gorbachev that we would not expand past east Germany
we are funding a proxy war on Russian borders. we want this Cold War 2 thanks to INTEL lies
 
anatta said:
Mueller’s investigators could not find evidence that Manafort coordinated his actions with the Russian's.
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Yes, they did! It's in the report, idiot. The one you refuse to read.

There's a whole section talking about this very thing...and the GOP Senate confirms it.

So why did Manafort ask Kilmnik to give polling data to Deripaska?
 
anatta said:
There was not one single case of Russian collusion
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Yes there was...Manafort asking Kilmnik to give polling data to Deripaska.

You still don't have an explanation for why he did that because the only explanation is that he was colluding with them.

What does Oleg Deripaska care about white voters in Wisconsin?
 
LV426 said:
It means that Deripaska knew to where he should direct the troll army to undermine the US election.

That's how they knew to target Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin...but more importantly, that's how they knew WHERE in those states and WHOM in those states to target.




Oh he did, you just refuse to accept it. First, you denied Manafort even did that. Then, you tried to say Kilmnik was a US asset. THEN, you tried to say the thing you previously denied happened, is of no consequence.

So that's 3 goalpost shifts.

YOUR ORIGINAL POSITION WAS THAT THERE WAS NO CONTACT WITH RUSSIA AT ALL.

That was a lie, wasn't it?
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you make no cites, you just make statements. I am not going to put the puzzle pieces together for your conspiracies.

1. Mueller said there was no collusion between any US citizen and da Russians
2. Obama State Department considered Konstantin Kilimnik a ‘sensitive source,’

2a. Senate report now identifies him as Russian intel officer.. WTF

see how the US dezinformatsiya pump works? just say "da Russians" and then misrepresent
 
anatta said:
It's a real shame you still believe INTEL, when they lied us into 2 major wars and a regime change. They are trying to gin up Cold War 2, and suckers like you support them
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Who do I believe?

The intelligence community...

or

A guy on an anonymous forum who already lied about getting an unsolicited mail-in ballot?

Tough choice, but I'm gonna have to go with the professionals.

Now, here's the thing...The Intelligence Community didn't lie us into Iraq. GEORGE W. BUSH and his Office of Special Planning did. Now, I don't know if you want us to dig that corpse up, but I can guarantee that doing so is not going to go the way you think.

Remind me, who was it who supported Bush and the fake intelligence the OSP was shoveling out there? You.


They are trying to gin up Cold War 2, and suckers like you support them
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You lied about getting an unsolicited mail-in ballot to try and trick suckers into thinking our election has no integrity.

You did that deliberately, and had I not called it out, you'd still be doing it today.
 
LV426 said:
Who do I believe?The intelligence community...
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The Senate Report on Iraqi WMD Intelligence (formally, the "Report of the Select Committee on Intelligence on the U.S. Intelligence Community's Prewar Intelligence Assessments on Iraq") was the report by the United States Senate Select Committee on Intelligence concerning the U.S. intelligence community's assessments of Iraq during the time leading up to the 2003 invasion of Iraq. The report, which was released on July 9, 2004, identified numerous failures in the intelligence-gathering and -analysis process. The report found that these failures led to the creation of inaccurate materials that misled both government policy makers and the American public.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Senate_Report_on_Pre-war_Intelligence_on_Iraq
 
anatta said:
a constant cold war footing. It makes them important -otherwise detente trims their sales
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There is no shortage of global security threats in the world, so the IC has no reason to gin up one to save their jobs.

In fact, they lose their jobs because they don't go along with what the political leaders want. They turn into whistleblowers. Like Vindman.


"Putin has his eyes on the Baltics" / "Putin threatens Poland" etc.
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Well, he already invaded Ukraine and has his agents stirring up fascist shit in Belarus.


NATO expansion is the culprit -we lied to Gorbachev that we would not expand past east Germany
we are funding a proxy war on Russian borders. we want this Cold War 2 thanks to INTEL lies
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This argument is straight from the Kremlin.
 
anatta said:
1. Mueller said there was no collusion between any US citizen and da Russians
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No, he didn't say that at all.

You don't know what he said because you haven't read his report.

You're like the kid in class who is trying to give a book report without having read the book.


2. Obama State Department considered Konstantin Kilimnik a ‘sensitive source,’
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Well, that could mean a lot of things...it could mean he's sensitive because of how close he is to Deripaska. So close, in fact, that Manafort asked him to give Deripaska the polling data.

WHY?


2a. Senate report now identifies him as Russian intel officer.. WTF
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Because that's what he is, and you were wrong when you thought he wasn't.

Or you were deliberately lying to give yourself cover; that seems more likely since you've already been lying about unsolicited mail-in ballots, COVID, and Biden.
 
anatta said:
The Senate Report on Iraqi WMD Intelligence (formally, the "Report of the Select Committee on Intelligence on the U.S. Intelligence Community's Prewar Intelligence Assessments on Iraq") was the report by the United States Senate Select Committee on Intelligence concerning the U.S. intelligence community's assessments of Iraq during the time leading up to the 2003 invasion of Iraq. The report, which was released on July 9, 2004, identified numerous failures in the intelligence-gathering and -analysis process. The report found that these failures led to the creation of inaccurate materials that misled both government policy makers and the American public.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Senate_Report_on_Pre-war_Intelligence_on_Iraq
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Yeah, the Office of Special Planning, which took all the raw intel that the IC produced, edited it, and then presented it as actual intel.

Who ran that shitshow? George W. Bush and Dick Cheney, not the IC.

I do so love taking this stroll down memory lane because unlike you, I don't smoke meth so my memory is pretty good.
 
LV426 said:
There is no shortage of global security threats in the world, so the IC has no reason to gin up one to save their jobs.
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Russia is their pet project. It's the baseline for mischief in Europe and Ukraine. It justifies NATO expansion and YUGE NATO budget increases. It' gives them job security

In fact, they lose their jobs because they don't go along with what the political leaders want. They turn into whistleblowers. Like Vindman.
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the same NSC creeps are still there,and if Trump loses will stillbe there when he goes

Well, he already invaded Ukraine and has his agents stirring up fascist shit in Belarus.
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Crimea is a Russian enclave -we long violated the Budapest Memorandum.
We fomented the Euromaidan to cause a revolution that is pro-Kyiv.
we caused it all and left Putin no choice but to annex for Sevastopol access
 
LV426 said:
Yeah, the Office of Special Planning, which took all the raw intel that the IC produced, edited it, and then presented it as actual intel.

Who ran that shitshow? George W. Bush and Dick Cheney, not the IC.

I do so love taking this stroll down memory lane because unlike you, I don't smoke meth so my memory is pretty good.
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The IC came up with Saddam has nukes/chems -they provided the raw data
 
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