Moodys study on stimulus return

Superfreak said:
Once again, you look at numbers and pretend you understand them.

Of course making the tax cuts permanent is not going to have much bang for the buck in the short term as you are not changing anything except future expectations.
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But isn't that why permanent tax cuts shouldn't be in a stimulus bill since they provide little stimulus?

I think Desh understands it quite a bit better than you do.
 
Dungheap said:
But isn't that why permanent tax cuts shouldn't be in a stimulus bill since they provide little stimulus?

I think Desh understands it quite a bit better than you do.
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Making the tax cuts that are currently in place should most certainly NOT be a part of the stimulus package as they will do little in the short term.

No, Desh does not understand... or at least it does not appear to be the case as her original post said 'permanent tax cuts' and not 'making the current tax cuts permanent'.

There is a difference. Her second post goes on to imply that tax cuts don't work and that they should not be considered blah blah blah... which again is wrong.

She is misreading this chart. Plain and simple. That is why she continues posting links to the same data and not commenting any further.
 
evince said:
My IQ has nothing to do with this fucking issue SF.

Tax Cuts do not work to stimulate the economy and the Rs are continuing to LIE about that.

http://www.stltoday.com/blogzone/po...e-gopers-unpersuaded-by-obama-stimulus-visit/


“I don’t believe in the myth that all the spending programs that FDR implemented in the Great Depression pulled us out of the Great Depression. I believe that they made the Depression,” Akin said.
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Desh, that's SF covering up for something he has that you don't: Penis Envy.

Don't let him bother you. You know what I'm really wondering. I'm trying to write this thing about the differences between politically active leftist men and your run of the mill pig, in bed, if there are any? So that has me thinking about sex, and it so happens that I just finished, last night, watching the entire sex and the city series, which I got as a gift, and had never seen all of before. And the question on my mind, is, does anyone know if real people actually do it in all of those positions?
 
on Moodys they were also one of those who rated the junk mortgage packages with AA and AAA ratings. with no historical evidence or any reliable data to go on.

Moodys might be right on this Desh, but I think they suck and contributed greatly to our current problems.
They were supposed to be a safety, not a trigger finger loose cannon type of outfit.


MOODYS SUCKS!

I think they should be put in prison.
 
evince said:
My IQ has nothing to do with this fucking issue SF.

Tax Cuts do not work to stimulate the economy and the Rs are continuing to LIE about that.

http://www.stltoday.com/blogzone/po...e-gopers-unpersuaded-by-obama-stimulus-visit/


“I don’t believe in the myth that all the spending programs that FDR implemented in the Great Depression pulled us out of the Great Depression. I believe that they made the Depression,” Akin said.
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1) I did not mention your IQ desh. I think IQ scores are irrelevant as intelligence is dependant upon the topic being discussed.

2) I did state that you clearly do not understand the numbers you are posting from the study. That does not mean you aren't intelligent in general, it simply means you do not understand what you are posting.

3) Tax cuts most certainly stimulate the economy Desh. Are there better short term stimuli? Yes. There are better short term 'fixes'. But many of those are one hit wonders. They only work to provide a brief spark. Then they fade. Just like the Bush rebate checks did.

4) Sometimes, like now, some of those short term 'fixes' are needed to keep things going until the long term solutions take hold.
 
i wonder which socialist/liberal group funded this little study? is soros connected to it by any chance? because something like this sounds right up his alley
 
SmarterThanYou said:
i wonder which socialist/liberal group funded this little study? is soros connected to it by any chance? because something like this sounds right up his alley
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What did you find incorrect with the study?

Also... Moody's is not a liberal/socialist (or conservative) group. That doesn't mean I always agree with them, but they do a pretty good job of keeping personal political bias out of their economic data.

I thought the report Desh posted was pretty accurate. She simply misinterpreted the data.
 
Superfreak said:
What did you find incorrect with the study?

Also... Moody's is not a liberal/socialist (or conservative) group. That doesn't mean I always agree with them, but they do a pretty good job of keeping personal political bias out of their economic data.

I thought the report Desh posted was pretty accurate. She simply misinterpreted the data.
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Moodys is capitalistic. They are in it for the money.
 
Well they may have made money off that one usc, now they want to economy to go back to making them money.

The only way that is going to happen anytime soon is for REAL stimulus to take place.

You know the stuff that actually works.
 
evince said:
Well they may have made money off that one usc, now they want to economy to go back to making them money.

The only way that is going to happen anytime soon is for REAL stimulus to take place.

You know the stuff that actually works.
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And how do you know this actually works when economists and people in the Obama administration even say they don't know that this will work?
 
Hey Fucktard, if Government spending worked so well why are we in this shit hole when Bush set records on Government spending?
 
Because Buttwink he spent on war and haliburton profits instead of things we could get a return on.

Thats like asking why should anyone eat after watching some fucktard eat poison.
 
evince said:
Well they may have made money off that one usc, now they want to economy to go back to making them money.

The only way that is going to happen anytime soon is for REAL stimulus to take place.

You know the stuff that actually works.
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Yes I do know, but does Moody? I have no faith in them. They made many millions rating junk finiancial packages as AA and AAA.
I do not trust their judgement.
 
Bush's jobless recovery was just jobless, not a recovery.
bush's spending and the high price of oil masked the problem until it was massive.
 
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