Despite the Ass-kissing, Stimulus Plan Passes Without a Single Republican Vote

Damo, you're kidding yourself. Not one GOP vote?

This was the Rush vote. The GOP has made their decision. The partisan side of me is stoked.
 
Damocles said:
The definition of "putting the nation first" does not include "vote for whatever Obama says is good."

I disagree with you Desh. I think they set the nation first, spoke against what they believe was wrong and voted as they felt was right. I prefer people who will stick to principles against great political opposition than sheep willing to go with whatever because it's Obama.
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Two years from now you will be denying you ever supported this, just like you did with the Iraq war.

But if things get better for the American people, something your party is dreading, then your party is even deader than they are today.

And in the long run, that'll be a good thing. Because it's a diseased party representing a diseased idealolgy.
 
evince said:
There Ideas failed.

Their Ideas fucked us all.

Time to buy a clue and fix this situation instead of calling for more tax cuts.

Lets not foget these were the same assholes voting for tax cuts in the middle of two wars.
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I haven't forgotten. Damo and Cawacko have forgotten. Just like Rush told them to.
 
Darla said:
Are you out of your mind? You do understand that we could be headed into an actual, real live, look ma no fucking jobs for anyone, depression right??
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What about the initial bailout package at the end of last year? You were on here arguing against that for political reasons and the same argument was being made that our financial system would collapse without it. So because Obama is behind this one it is now important to you?
 
Darla said:
I agree with everything you said, but just want to add that Digby made a great case today that this was all for the Bluedogs who were threatening to vote against it en mass, and that would have killed the bill. So one thing that the grassroots can do is take those bastards out one by on in primaries. The ones in districts that have a 50% chance or greater of going dem even with a more progressive candidate.

And, even I was surprised that not one R broke ranks and voted for it. Boy this really shows you that the Double Authoritarian theory about R's is true. They like to boss people around in public, but what they really, really love, is taking orders.

Can't get enough of that.
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IMHO, we should just institute IRV and let the Blue Dogs spin out into their own party. That way, the moderates and conservatives who lean Dem in conservative seats can keep their seat, and we can mop them up in the places where they're just sitting their because of incumbency. It will at least make it clear who we have to pander to; the Blue Dogs act like another party.
 
Darla said:
I have to say I agree. I can't believe that the heralded kneecapper Emanual can't get the blue dogs in line? Why can't they be squeezed - vote this way or your district doesn't get one penny, ever, how about that? Then, the ones who don't vote the way you wanted them to do? Make it happen. Strip their districts out of all spending bills.

I thought that Rahm was supposed to be the second coming and everyone was going to be pissing their pants over him?
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What we need is some party discipline. You think you're important enough to vote against your party? Alright, try that out with the voters next time around, AS AN INDEPENDENT.

And I've changed my mind about Lieberman; it's more important that we set an example for other conservative Democrats in the future than that we have a clean sixty votes. The fucker should've been kicked out of the caucus.
 
cawacko said:
What about the initial bailout package at the end of last year? You were on here arguing against that for political reasons and the same argument was being made that our financial system would collapse without it. So because Obama is behind this one it is now important to you?
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Cawacko? I was not arguing against that for "political reasons". I was arguing against that because if someone punches me in the face very morning for 7 fucking years, I know that tomorrow morning? They're going to punch me in the face again.

I specifically said I did not trust the bushies with the money, I believed they were raiding the treasury.

Cawacko? You may not have heard, but THE 350 BILLION RELEASED TO THEM IS MISSING AND NO ONE KNOWS WHERE THE FUCK IT WENT, WHAT WE DO KNOW IS THAT IT HASN'T OPENED UP THE CREDIT MARKETS!

Holy shit.
 
Darla said:
Two years from now you will be denying you ever supported this, just like you did with the Iraq war.

But if things get better for the American people, something your party is dreading, then your party is even deader than they are today.

And in the long run, that'll be a good thing. Because it's a diseased party representing a diseased idealolgy.
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No. I won't.
 
The cult of Limbaugh - don't fall out of line:

(CNN) – Republican Rep. Phil Gingrey of Georgia apologized Wednesday for criticizing conservative hosts Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hanity, assuring his supporters that "I am one of you."

"I regret and apologize for the fact that my comments have offended and upset my fellow conservatives—that was not my intent," Gingrey said in a statement. "I am also sorry to see that my comments in defense of our Republican Leadership read much harsher than they actually were intended, but I recognize it is my responsibility to clarify my own comments."

The mea culpa comes one day after Gingrey appeared to take issue with Limbaugh's recent criticism of congressional Republicans. The conservative radio host said GOP leaders weren't adequately challenging President Obama on his proposed stimulus package.

"I mean, it’s easy if you’re Sean Hannity or Rush Limbaugh or even sometimes Newt Gingrich to stand back and throw bricks," Gingrey told the Politico. "You don’t have to try to do what’s best for your people and your party."

"As long as I am in the Congress, I will continue to fight for and defend our sacred values. I have actively opposed every bailout, every rebate check, every so called 'stimulus,' Gingrey said in the statement. "And on so many of these things, I see eye-to-eye with Rush Limbaugh."

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/
 
Darla said:
Glad to see your lips on Rush's ass. Be careful! Damo might push you out of the way.
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LOL... yeah you know, when I'm at work trying to keep my job I have Rush on full blast at my cube so I can follow his lead.

I didn't comment whether I thought it was good or bad how the Republicans voted. Get your mouth off Desh's tit and read sister.
 
I love how Fox's site is playing this. "GOP shows it has a backbone" and "shows it can unite in opposition."

So predictable.
 
cawacko said:
LOL... yeah you know, when I'm at work trying to keep my job I have Rush on full blast at my cube so I can follow his lead.

I didn't comment whether I thought it was good or bad how the Republicans voted. Get your mouth off Desh's tit and read sister.
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Whatever, it doesn't matter. Onceler is right. I just choke on the hypocrisy of Republicans, especially the elected ones.

But the lines are drawn now.

It's best that way.
 
cawacko said:
what's hypocritical about it?
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I don't know. Could it be the fact that they voted for every fucking spending bill that came down the pike, including the bailout, over the past 8 years?

Where am I? Who am I? How did I get here? Have you ever seen me before?
 
Darla said:
I don't know. Could it be the fact that they voted for every fucking spending bill that came down the pike, including the bailout, over the past 8 years?

Where am I? Who am I? How did I get here? Have you ever seen me before?
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Ok. Well if that's your criteria then every single politician is hypocritical (which is already repetitive). But because the Republicans sucked ass before doesn't mean they are hypocrites for changing their behavior. It's a simple work, a bond you and Desh share tightly, called partisan.
 
Onceler said:
"Obama should have spent more time rewarding those who've supported him and shoring up his own base instead of giving the finger to the left and slobbering all over right-wing ass. "

That's an interesting characterization.

This stimulus package is surely a more left-wing stimulus package. You make it sound like he tailored it for them & they still rejected him.

I don't think you know how to react yet to the fact that Obama is kind of governing from the left right now.
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Don't quit your day job brother. Keep psychoanalysis as a hobby.

In case you've missed it, I applaud Obama when I think its warranted and even support any stances of his I agree with. What you don't know how to react to is someone who isn't a partisan .. so you make shit up so you can have an argument.

My comment you addressed didn't have a damn thing to do with whether the package was left, right, or center .. but it had everything to do with the demonstration that republicans are not going act or function in the manner that Obama wants them to no matter how much he kisses their ass. Had you taken the comment in context you could have figured that out all by yourself .. or just read the goddamn title of the thread.

My point about his base goes to a rapidly folding reality that he's going to need them. His magic ain't working on republicans as planned .. and it ain't working on a number of blue-dog democrats either. There is a hell of a lot on his plate and kumbaya politcs will not work.

You may not notice any of this, but that just means you're a democrat.

And just to give you a heads up, if the plan passes leaning left, I'll .. as I always do .. applaud Obama, with a caveat of it having the necessary oversight.

You keep playing politics American-style all you want sir.

I'll keep being me.
 
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