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Not really, since they should be argued in terms of their present meanings, which are defined by their respective political movements. Liberals want more government control of the economy, and conservatives want less. Taken to their logical extremes, liberals are therefore socialists, and conservatives are therefore capitalists. *shrug*

do any of the present meanings have concrete philosophies? if they are ever changing, then of what value are present day meanings? i don't think we should argue in absolutes (the 100% i was referring to), rather in more general ideas.
 
do any of the present meanings have concrete philosophies? if they are ever changing, then of what value are present day meanings? i don't think we should argue in absolutes (the 100% i was referring to), rather in more general ideas.

Capitalism and socialism are both concrete philosophies, and both the logical ends to conservatism and liberalism as currently defined by their respective political movements.
 
Wow, Southern Man finally got hold of himself and was able to post again?

I'm glad. I felt so bad when I saw how emotional he got over his negative rep points.
 
Capitalism and socialism are both concrete philosophies, and both the logical ends to conservatism and liberalism as currently defined by their respective political movements.

fair enough, i don't agree, but i do see your point and really we would go in circles about this.

for example: one could argue islam is all about conservatism....islam is not about capitalism...
 
Wow, Southern Man finally got hold of himself and was able to post again?

I'm glad. I felt so bad when I saw how emotional he got over his negative rep points.
What you perceive as emotion is in fact my desire to engage in a higher level of conversation which you and your friend have proven incapable of.
 
fair enough, i don't agree, but i do see your point and really we would go in circles about this.

for example: one could argue islam is all about conservatism....islam is not about capitalism...
My description of the two philosophies is limited to fiscal policy in the US of A.
 
What you perceive as emotion is in fact my desire to engage in a higher level of conversation which you and your friend have proven incapable of.

snarls pic....

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Is this Darla?
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Nice looking babe. :)
 
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