Trump to reveal coronavirus 'breakthrough' tonight at 6

I don't think he did. I think he's desperate. He's putting pressure on the FDA to approve things that haven't been fully vetted. This is just another example. He's going to try to get them to approve a vaccine before phase III trials are complete. And who knows, they might just do it. That's how fucking scary this guy is.

He finally learned that ignoring it is not working.
 
I don't think he did. I think he's desperate. He's putting pressure on the FDA to approve things that haven't been fully vetted. This is just another example. He's going to try to get them to approve a vaccine before phase III trials are complete. And who knows, they might just do it. That's how fucking scary this guy is.

I thought too many people were dying.

How many more do you think will die while waiting on the cogs in the FDA to stop turning?

This is a big deal, right?
 
yep.

but we should listen to bill gates...

screw these fools!

Money talks....those who pay get to talk and get taken seriously in seriously corrupt and fucked 2020 America....most of the rest of us dont.

I know you hate it when I talk this way but this is the reality.
 
So it is a big deal? Seems like mixed messaging coming from the Trumptard camp.

This is not “breakthrough,” Trump is trying to make it political so he can say he’s attacking COVID but others are putting up hurdles, of course, cause they don’t want to see him re-elected, and he needs a deflection from his sister remarks regarding his character, nothing to see here
 
This is not “breakthrough,” Trump is trying to make it political so he can say he’s attacking COVID but others are putting up hurdles, of course, cause they don’t want to see him re-elected, and he needs a deflection from his sister remarks regarding his character, nothing to see here

People have been getting plasma treatment all along. Can someone explain why a new designation from the CDC changes anything?
 
This is not “breakthrough,” Trump is trying to make it political so he can say he’s attacking COVID but others are putting up hurdles, of course, cause they don’t want to see him re-elected, and he needs a deflection from his sister remarks regarding his character, nothing to see here

To Trump everything is a conspiracy against him. Typical of someone with severe mental illness.
 
I thought too many people were dying.

How many more do you think will die while waiting on the cogs in the FDA to stop turning?

This is a big deal, right?

What if you approve a drug that doesn't work and kills more people than covid has? Until the work is done,
we are introducing an unknown into everyone bodies. Nobody is going to hold that bag. You just want to alter
safety protocols to save your orange criminal. Just like Trump, irresponsible.
 
I think the point is why should Trump have to do it?

Fauci and the rest can’t think clearly?

Couple of reasons, now you won’t have a placebo to determine how well it really works, secondly, it will give some a false confidence, and third, best to be aware of potential drawbacks, the last thing the fight against COVID needs is wasted time, energy, and funding

But Trump don’t give a rat’s ass about the treatment, he’s just primping it for his own political ends
 
What if you approve a drug that doesn't work and kills more people than covid has? Until the work is done,
we are introducing an unknown into everyone bodies. Nobody is going to hold that bag. You just want to alter
safety protocols to save your orange criminal. Just like Trump, irresponsible.

Plasma isn’t a drug and it’s safer than a lot of things.

Can you come up with a medical or even logical reason why it shouldn’t be used besides the fact Trump might score a win with it?
 
The time it took to get one itself being another bullet point in the argument "OUR EXPERTS SUCK!".

You have a slight point.




EDIT: also it could be assumed that those who get COVID get antibodies....when I started reading about this idea in FEB the constraint was having enough people who had been infected, not getting an antibody test, though that sure helps when the actual infection rate is 6-24 times (depending upon the county) the official count because we do so poorly at testing.

Yeah, it was a cluster to say the least. I have not been on board with the CDC and FDA for a long time anyway......going back a few years really.
 
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Wow, the day before the Repub convention, Trump comes up with this. It was predictable. It is also not a truth. Plasma has not had a serious, rigorous clinical test. Trump is exerting all the pressure he can on the CDC. He wants this possible hoax to stay on the front page through the convention. He is trying to rescue a disaster.
 
Couple of reasons, now you won’t have a placebo to determine how well it really works, secondly, it will give some a false confidence, and third, best to be aware of potential drawbacks, the last thing the fight against COVID needs is wasted time, energy, and funding

But Trump don’t give a rat’s ass about the treatment, he’s just primping it for his own political ends

Funding? What funding? All that’s needed are donors.

You’re ‘give false hope’ objection is a tacit assumption it doesn’t work. So that’s out. It’s also not very objective.

Finally, it’s plasma. I’ve seen it given to surgical patients to increase blood volume more times than I can count.

Why do I get the idea some people are looking for reasons not to do this—when none exist?
 
To Trump everything is a conspiracy against him. Typical of someone with severe mental illness.

Not at all, it is deliberate, orchestrated, Trump knows melodrama sells, and has seen the radio/Fox demagogues employ it successfully for years, you can’t have a melodrama without defined good guys/bad guys, there has to be villains, and playing the martyr role is all part of the charade.

Never underestimate the naivety of conservatives, especially when it comes to emotional appeal, they are easy prey for demagoguery, and Trump knows it well
 
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