Hiroshima anniversary

moon said:
Asshole.
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Yes. I've been called an asshole** since 1975 and up until I retired this year (partially as a result of Trump's virus economy). As you just proved, I still am being labeled that by people like yourself. :)

Given that there is clearly a difference between a person who is an asshole and those who are simply labeled as such by snowflakes, cowardly, spineless Beta males jealous of their superiors and the like, I do my best to do what is right, just and true even if it hurts fragile egos.



**Asshole: 1. anal orifice, vulgar slang. 2. Often used ironically to describe one's superior in knowledge, wisdom, skill or position. esp one's Boss or manager.
 
Chaz said:
I can't begin to express how angry I am that we did not attempt to launch an invasion of Japan to end WWII. I side with progressives on this one.
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On this forum, it's important to remember Poe's Law:
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I agree that bombing the cities was the best choice for several reasons with number one being ending the war ASAP to save American lives. People forget that the US alone was losing over 300 Americans a day in WWII. Any President who paused for an extra day under such circumstances or went golfing before doing everything in their power to stop the carnage and loss of American lives should be crucified upside down on the gates of the White House.

No American family wanted that war to go on one more day than it did. Based on the US casualties and resistance increasing the closer the US moved toward Japan the estimated casualties on both sides for invading Honshu were horrific. Too many people whining about the US dropping an atomic bomb on Hiroshima forget that the US was regularly killing just as many Japanese with firebombing during that time. The big difference was one plane, one bomb as opposed to hundreds of planes and thousands of incendiary bombs.
 
Nordberg said:
Ike said we should not have used it. He said Japan was beaten and ready to surrender. https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...wful-thing-why-dropping-the-a-bombs-was-wrong

He only was in charge of the war. So what did he know?
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Eisenhower was commander of the European theater of operations and never served in the Pacific theater.

80 years after the war it is still a mystery what Japan's intentions were. Nobody can really say with certainty.
They fought to the death in 1945 at Iwo Jima and Okinawa, and those islands weren't even the Japanese home islands
 
The bombs were dropped on Japanese civilians by those with the self-same cowardly mindset as those that designed and operated the European death-camps.

You will never be forgiven.
 
moon said:
The bombs were dropped on Japanese civilians by those with the self-same cowardly mindset as those that designed and operated the European death-camps.
You will never be forgiven.
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Hiroshima was a huge military center with tens of thousands of Japanese soldiers awaiting deployment to resist our invasion. It was also the military headquarters in charge of repelling that invasion.

The second A-bomb was intended for Kokura Arsenal, a huge weapons-making complex. Due to a number of factors it was not dropped on the desired target, but that was where they wanted to put it.
 
Nordberg said:
Ike said we should not have used it. He said Japan was beaten and ready to surrender.
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Ike only expressed his opposition to a single person (Stimson).

When Stimson reacted by calling him an idiot, Ike decided to keep quiet and not tell anyone else.

Even if Ike had managed to somehow be convincing, he was too late anyway. Stimson had sent the final orders to drop the A-bombs out to the military and then departed the Potsdam conference on July 25. When Ike voiced his opposition in Frankfort on July 27 it was just hours before Stimson departed Europe for home. Truman was still at sea aboard the Augusta when Hiroshima was bombed, and had not been in the same room with Stimson since July 25.
 
Anvil Kasseri said:
Hiroshima was a huge military center with tens of thousands of Japanese soldiers awaiting deployment to resist our invasion. It was also the military headquarters in charge of repelling that invasion.

The second A-bomb was intended for Kokura Arsenal, a huge weapons-making complex. Due to a number of factors it was not dropped on the desired target, but that was where they wanted to put it.
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The European death-camps were necessary to weaken the allies' resistance, prevent Jewish funding of the allied war effort and end subversion and sabotage of the Reich by non-Aryan minority groups- thus bringing the war to a swift conclusion and saving millions of lives. You nuke-brained establishment twat.
 
moon said:
The European death-camps were necessary to weaken the allies' resistance, prevent Jewish funding of the allied war effort and end subversion and sabotage of the Reich by non-Aryan minority groups- thus bringing the war to a swift conclusion and saving millions of lives. You nuke-brained establishment twat.
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Genocide is a horrible crime. Probably the worst crime that can be committed.
 
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