CA isn’t helping my mask skepticism

Althea said:
And they were ALL patriots. They were willing to subject their constituents to the virus, solely to prove that Fauci has been right all along.

Now we've learned to listen to the professionals, and ignore everything coming from the White House.


It's like the 'herd immunity' they were talking about. The only way to prove one way or the other if Fauci was correct, was to ignore him.

Now we know.
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That's the irony. This ensures that we're rid of Trump, but at an awfully high price. The cult is going to pay a price for this too. When it's over, we need public trials for these criminals.
 
Althea said:
Many voters are parents. Do you think they want to risk their childrens' safety? Of course not. They will blame this administration for not having a coherent plan in place to have this situation under control already.

But...we're going to find out in a few months, aren't we?

Like it took a few months for your '61' thread to make you look silly.
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Where would you idiots be without that thread lol?

If you think Democrats can keep schools closed and nail Trump with it—good luck.
 
Stretch said:
Just starting to read some info/studies on Legionnaires’. Symptoms are similar to Covid-19 only it is bacterial.
Some thought they had Covid, were retested for other possibilities and Legionnaires’ was discovered because
being trapped in a mask. Shame they probably listed as "confirmed" Covid, though in the stats.
People wearing surgical type masks need to discard them after 2 hours of use. Any amount of moisture in there either
from breathing, clearing your throat, coughing, sneezing, touching with a moist hand can possibly leave bacteria behind
which of course would be inhaled.

At this point I'm thinking that all those people going boating/beaches should definitely ditch the masks when they're on/by the water!

Gonna keep reading and gathering links for later.
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Definitely. That's why I'm not a fan of being forced to wear a mask at work (due to my tyrannical county government). I think they do more harm than good (they do not stop viruses).

I've also been finding (through my own experimentation) that wearing masks increases stress, heart rate, and decreases O2 saturation in the body. None of those are good things. A very healthy and active person such as myself should not be noticing a resting heart rate in the lower 90s while wearing a mask when I normally have a resting heart rate of 65-70bpm without a mask on. I've even tested immediately upon taking my mask off, and then again after a few minutes, and my bpm usually drops by 10bpm immediately, and then back to the normal 65-70bpm range after a few minutes.
 
I couldn't care less about West VA's mask skepticism. The black lung state....

This stupid shit you hicks aren't willing to do to turn a buck. :palm: Nothing.
 
floridafan said:
Its all about trends. Which states are recovering and which are getting worse. Blues states that took more drastic actions are recovering, many red states are getting much worse.
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Take a look at all-cause mortality rates over the last several years in the USA. This year is right in line with others years. In fact, this year was MILD compared to prior years. The only "covid-spikes" are in areas such as NYC where they purposely brought infected people back into nursing homes, a "mass homicide" of sorts. Other areas have not seen any "covid-spikes" like NYC saw...
 
gfm7175 said:
Take a look at all-cause mortality rates over the last several years in the USA. This year is right in line with others years. In fact, this year was MILD compared to prior years. The only "covid-spikes" are in areas such as NYC where they purposely brought infected people back into nursing homes, a "mass homicide" of sorts. Other areas have not seen any "covid-spikes" like NYC saw...
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I forgive you for being, blind, deaf and dumb. Have you seen the Covid spikes in TX, AZ, GA, FL, LA, and other smaller states as well. Its worse now that at any time in the past.
 
floridafan said:
I forgive you for being, blind, deaf and dumb. Have you seen the Covid spikes in TX, AZ, GA, FL, LA, and other smaller states as well. Its worse now that at any time in the past.
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I'm talking about mortality rates, not (supposed) infections... Like I said, take a look at the all-cause mortality rates in the USA over the last several years... This year was actually rather mild compared to prior years. The only "out of line" areas are areas like NYC because of the "mass homicides" that took place in nursing homes when infected people were purposely brought into them because extra money was to be had by doing so. States that didn't do that sort of thing, such as California and Texas, saw no such "covid-spike" in their all-cause mortality rates...

You have fallen for the hoax...
 
gfm7175 said:
I'm talking about mortality rates, not (supposed) infections... Like I said, take a look at the all-cause mortality rates in the USA over the last several years... This year was actually rather mild compared to prior years. The only "out of line" areas are areas like NYC because of the "mass homicides" that took place in nursing homes when infected people were purposely brought into them because extra money was to be had by doing so. States that didn't do that sort of thing, such as California and Texas, saw no such "covid-spike" in their all-cause mortality rates...

You have fallen for the hoax...
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POST YOUR MORTALITY RATES
 
Darth Omar said:
You’re speaking in absolutes but otherwise I agree with you lol.
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I am speaking from the N95 specifications. I am describing an airborne respiratory virus that is basically everywhere and on every surface. I am speaking about areas that have mandated masks, social distancing, and plastic shields for over a month and are still seeing a 'rise' in infections. I am speaking about lockdowns that take place as soon as the economy starts to recover.

What do YOU think this is about? Absolutes?
 
Darth Omar said:
Trump is as much a dictator as he is a racist—and racists don’t go boasting about their record employment numbers.

And it’s becoming increasingly apparent much of what they told us to is marginally effective.

We are a nation of sheep.
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Perhaps not as much a nation of sheep as you are being led to believe by the fake news.
 
floridafan said:
I guess your handlers don't allow you to read what they post:

. However, a sharp "COVID peak" is present in the data, for several jurisdictions in Europe and the USA.
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I guess your handlers don't allow you to read through the whole study, which explains that GOVERNMENT POLICIES are DIRECTLY LINKED to said "covid peaks" in the data.

I mainly just wanted you to look at the all cause mortality chart for the USA and see that this year is not out of line with any of the last few years (and that the "death spike" is directly linked to places such as NYC and their governmental policies) and that other places across the USA did not see the same "death spikes" that NYC did...
 
Darth Omar said:
Treatments sucked early on.

Their socialist healthcare structure was quickly overwhelmed, so many victims lacked access.

Europe wanted to move on past COVID instead of politicizing it so Europe never went into ‘hyper-testing mode’ so they didn’t pick up a lot of false positives; a lot of asymptomatics; a lot of people who were tested positive more than once *for one infection* and etc. Doing those things have the effect of forcing the death rate down.

Things are going in the wrong direction when Europe starts to look sane compared to us.
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Treatment for any medical condition still sucks in most of Europe. Despite this, Covid only infected much less than 1% of the population anywhere (including Europe) and Covid related deaths never went beyond 0.09% of the population even in the worse hit areas of Europe.

This is nothing. The bubonic plague KILLED 50% of the population of Europe. Source: WHO
 
gfm7175 said:
I guess your handlers don't allow you to read through the whole study, which explains that GOVERNMENT POLICIES are DIRECTLY LINKED to said "covid peaks" in the data.

I mainly just wanted you to look at the all cause mortality chart for the USA and see that this year is not out of line with any of the last few years (and that the "death spike" is directly linked to places such as NYC and their governmental policies) and that other places across the USA did not see the same "death spikes" that NYC did...
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So government policies are directly linked to Covid peaks. Has anyone explained to you just who has been running this government for almost 4 years??
 
Concart said:
That's the irony. This ensures that we're rid of Trump, but at an awfully high price. The cult is going to pay a price for this too. When it's over, we need public trials for these criminals.
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NY state won't back off of trump. I don't know if Biden will go after him for the myriad financial crimes.
 
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