Yeehaw, Dano's Privatize Libraries Idea Comes to Fruition!

KingCondanomation said:
It's not important to the poor, it's more important to the middle class - based on use anyway.
Look at the protests in the article, do you see poor people saying we are too poor and will not be able to read if you shut them down? No, they are just some concerned middle income people who want their library open because they see it as important.


There is probably plenty they are cutting anyway.
Ok so what would you cut? I've seen my share of middlish people who don't seem to like taxes but can't bring themselves to cut anything.
Social welfare housing would be a great place to start cutting deeply.
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"Tanya Westbrook, a single parent of 12- and 16-year-old boys, lives across from the Logan branch of the Free Library. "

So tell us Dano... how is it you determined this womans wealth? It doesn't mention that she is middle income or lower income. So how do you know? Do you even GO to the library? You are continuing to pull shit out of your ass.
 
Dungheap said:
Are you serious with this crap? Basing who free public libraries are important to on an article about a public hearing concerning the closing of some library branches is about the stupidest fucking thing I've heard in a while (Note: I've been off the board for a few days).




Lemme guess, welfare and public housing assistance aren't important to poor people?
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They're mostly used by the middle class.
 
KingCondanomation said:
I'm sorry Super but that is a theory, probably the theory on which libraries were started but it is simply not reality.
I've lived poor, even one friend I had who lived in the back basement of his Mom's shit apartment in one of the shittiest neighborhoods had a bunch of books, he didn't read them. Books, especially used books are NOT expensive, book fairs at school you can get books for like 5 or 10 cents each, ditto for garage sales.
The poor have access to them but they don't care. That's a problem in this country but it's not because the library is accessible or not.


Ok that is crap for the private corps, they would need to make some money and they would likely rent them or perhaps raise other fees. But again, better than closing.
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Even books that are inexpensive cost MORE than being able to check them out for FREE Dano. You are full of shit to say the 'poor don't care'. You have NOTHING to substantiate that.
 
Darla said:
Neither is SF...so, this could go on through infinity. there may be no finite end. We may very well be witnessing the beginning of a test of the space and time continuum.
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you know whats ironic? Is the fact that you will never admit when you are wrong. Hello pot... this is kettle.
 
Dungheap said:
Are you serious with this crap? Basing who free public libraries are important to on an article about a public hearing concerning the closing of some library branches is about the stupidest fucking thing I've heard in a while (Note: I've been off the board for a few days).
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I'm basing it on weeks of observing who uses the library and who is protesting.

Dungheap said:
Lemme guess, welfare and public housing assistance aren't important to poor people?
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Not in the long term when they encourage dependence. When I lived in my first shit apartment, part of my rent is taxes to pay for the townhouse social housing that was down the street and around the block.
When people are living better without working than with working why bother working?
My first roommates mom came from that social housing project and one time when we were discussing jobs she literally came out and said she would work but then she would no longer qualify for social housing, so she will be dependent on it forever.

The problem with a lot of you on the left is that you imagine how poverty is but you've never really seen it up close and when told of how and why government doesn't work, you just respond with something cute like "Oh look a Danocdote".
 
Ah. Poor people aren't interested in reading. And guess what? that's exactly why they are poor.

Should have known where this loon was taking this.
 
Superfreak said:
Even books that are inexpensive cost MORE than being able to check them out for FREE Dano. You are full of shit to say the 'poor don't care'. You have NOTHING to substantiate that.
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You live near Denver, go to the library in the poorest neighborhood there, report what you find.
I am basing what I say on years of living in shit neighborhoods.

You know there was a good saying by Oprah, can't remember the exact words, but it wasn't something to the effect that poor people in America don't really care about the oppurtunities they have. Which is why she has said she wants to help poor people in poorer countries more and is doing exactly that.

I'm sure at one time in history, when books were more a luxury and the poor had few opportunities to move up, libraries were a great refuge for that but it isn't the same today.

We are getting off topic with this, the bigger point is that private libraries will provide people more with what they demand, just like any private entity does.
 
Superfreak said:
Let me guess, you studied a library located in a middle class neighborhood?
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That particular library was close to shopping mall. Depending on which direction you walked you could be in a middle class neighborhood or a really bad neighborhood and plenty in between.

I said it had it's share of poor people, that was the truth.
 
Superfreak said:
"Tanya Westbrook, a single parent of 12- and 16-year-old boys, lives across from the Logan branch of the Free Library. "

So tell us Dano... how is it you determined this womans wealth? It doesn't mention that she is middle income or lower income. So how do you know? Do you even GO to the library? You are continuing to pull shit out of your ass.
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I looked at the picture of the protesters:
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Anyone who's lived around poor people can tell you they are not dressed poor, nor look it.

This is the same shit I used to see in leftwing protest rallies that I HAVE been in or been near to, no poor people, just those who claim to act on their behalf.
 
uscitizen said:
Everyone raise their cursors that think Dano has spent weeks studying a library.
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Well not purposely right? I mean I went there everyday over one summer as I had wanted to have a career in anthropology at the time and was reading a lot of books on the subject. So just like anywhere, when the door opens or people go by you or you go by people, you know, you take note of who they are and I can still remember thinking "Just about everyone here is old".

I realize that ruins some people's fantasy of it being some sanctum for the poor knowledge thirsters but oh well too bad.
 
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