Heart attack or asphyxiation?

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Stretch

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Video #1
I finally found a video of events preceding the video of George Floyd on the street being held down by the 3 cops.
Three people come out of his car and are led to the sidewalk for questioning. Floyd looks a little unsteady.
Two cops walk him across the street to another cop car where his legs give way and he collapses. (see Video #2 next)

 
Video #2
He's clearly in physical distress already. Only my opinion, but the poor man was probably having a heart attack. The pain, the shortness of breath
yet still being able to speak and call out for help until his heart gave out. All the while the cops should have been the ones to provide the first
aid and call for an ambulance early in the 8 minutes of his lying there. The inhumane negligence of these 4 cops is unfathomable.:(
Three major signs the cops ignored:
His collapse to the ground, his painful exhaled moans and shortness of breath.

 
Stretch said:
Video #2
He's clearly in physical distress already. Only my opinion, but the poor man was probably having a heart attack. The pain, the shortness of breath
yet still being able to speak and call out for help until his heart gave out. All the while the cops should have been the ones to provide the first
aid and call for an ambulance early in the 8 minutes of his lying there. The inhumane negligence of these 4 cops is unfathomable.:(
Three major signs the cops ignored:
His collapse to the ground, his painful exhaled moans and shortness of breath.

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and the knee on his neck...
 
AssHatZombie said:
and the knee on his neck...
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Yes it's possible. The autopsy should tell us whether or not and to what degree of full pressure was placed there
or if the knee was over the area due just to the cops squatting position.
I only say that because Floyd continued with heavy breathing and calling out until a single instant where it
seemed that all life had left him...like a heart attack.
 
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"no physical findings that support a diagnosis of traumatic asphyxia or strangulation"
 
Stretch said:
Yes it's possible. The autopsy should tell us whether or not and to what degree of full pressure was placed there
or if if the knee was over the area due just to the cops squatting position.
I only say that because Floyd continued with heavy breathing and calling out until a single instant where it
seemed that all life had left him...like a heart attack.
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you're trippin'

it just seemed like his knee was on his neck? ftfy.
 
Grokmaster said:
THE RESTRICTION OF HIS RESPIRATION COULD EASILY HAVE BROUGHT ON A HEART ATTACK.
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Your heart pumps blood so it can circulate to your tissues as well as get oxygen from your lungs. If your heart
can’t pump blood well (as is the case with a heart attack), you can feel short of breath.

I'm just mentioning this because now we see the report says........"no physical findings that support a diagnosis of traumatic asphyxia or strangulation".
Report also shows how Floyd was in distress before he was on the ground...."he said he couldn't breathe" while he was still standing.
 
Stretch said:
Your heart pumps blood so it can circulate to your tissues as well as get oxygen from your lungs. If your heart
can’t pump blood well (as is the case with a heart attack), you can feel short of breath.

I'm just mentioning this because now we see the report says........"no physical findings that support a diagnosis of traumatic asphyxia or strangulation".
Report also shows how Floyd was in distress before he was on the ground...."he said he couldn't breathe" while he was still standing.
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and a knee to the neck is always the first line treatment for someone losing consciousness. put down the pipe.
 
AssHatZombie said:
you're trippin'

it just seemed like his knee was on his neck? ftfy.
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I knew people would get the wrong idea. Please! The entire 4 cops handling this are reprehensible.
I'm merely pointing out things coming to light in videos and the report. And, there are "no physical findings
that support a diagnosis of traumatic asphyxia or strangulation".

I see 4 cops in a squatting position along the entire length of Floyd's body. Since there are no signs of physical
trauma to the neck area plus the signs he did present, I'm just saying it looks like a cardiac event.
Maybe newer evidence is yet to come. Maybe another doctor will be brought in to get another opinion. I don't know.
I'm posting a couple of videos and the Probable Cause Statement.
 
I've never called a cop "a pig" in my life, but I'm doing it now!
Chauvin is a pig. While restraining Floyd on the ground he taunted Floyd by
mocking him and saying "get up!!! get up!!!" knowing full well he was unable to.
He's a sadistic piece of work! :(
 
There is no way anyone can claim it was a heart attack. That is not known. But if it was, it was the abuse that caused it. That is still murder. I read that Chauvin's wife wants out of the marriage. He is not exactly the kind of man that people stick by.
 
Nordberg said:
There is no way anyone can claim it was a heart attack. That is not known. But if it was, it was the abuse that caused it. That is still murder. I read that Chauvin's wife wants out of the marriage. He is not exactly the kind of man that people stick by.
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The Hennepin County Medical Examiner announced it has “no physical findings that support a diagnosis of traumatic asphyxia or strangulation" in the preliminary results of Floyd’s autopsy.
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/05/29/george-floyd-minneapolis-protests-live-updates/
 
Apparently none of the sympathizers of a rotten cop know what a strain on your heart having the blood vessels and windpipe in your neck compressed and blocked off can cause. These people need to stop trying to excuse murder before their humanity gets fully pissed away. The cop will more than likely get off easy and wrong will be done again. Lawless chaos will erupt since law, order, and justice are shown broken once again. These protests will greatly intensify at the worst possible times.
 
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Stretch said:
I've never called a cop "a pig" in my life, but I'm doing it now!
Chauvin is a pig. While restraining Floyd on the ground he taunted Floyd by
mocking him and saying "get up!!! get up!!!" knowing full well he was unable to.
He's a sadistic piece of work! :(
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MMMMMMMM,....I hear you,..BUT... I cant tell you how many times I have seen people fake having heart attacks or other medical conditions when getting arrested because they think it will help them avoid jail just by watching episodes of COPS or LIVE PD. Now imagine being an actual cop and think about how many times they have seen that ploy. They probably become so conditioned that they think everyone is faking. Gotta admit,... I can easily understand that. Having said all that.......still doesnt make it right. Are they guilty of murder? Nope,... not IMO, but....they are surely guilty of terrible negligence because without that negligence that man would stand a very good chance of being alive today...
 
Stretch said:
I knew people would get the wrong idea. Please! The entire 4 cops handling this are reprehensible.
I'm merely pointing out things coming to light in videos and the report. And, there are "no physical findings
that support a diagnosis of traumatic asphyxia or strangulation".

I see 4 cops in a squatting position along the entire length of Floyd's body. Since there are no signs of physical
trauma to the neck area plus the signs he did present, I'm just saying it looks like a cardiac event.
Maybe newer evidence is yet to come. Maybe another doctor will be brought in to get another opinion. I don't know.
I'm posting a couple of videos and the Probable Cause Statement.
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Thanks, Stretch.
You've posted some information for others to see. More informative than what the News has posted and the automatic "The Cops killed him".
 
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