Robdawg invited to a GAY wedding in Connecticut!!!

Southern Man said:
Weakening your position by ignoring my earlier stated positions will not resurrect you. Nor is it my duty to repeat what I have earlier stated.
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Thats right, we did have a rather weird discussion about the christian right, but then you changed the subject rather quickly on that one. You didn't seem to make much of a point there either.

Then you went with that ridiculous accusation that gays are choosing to live their "high risk" lifestyle and expecting you to pay for the results.

Except that you completely ignored that the gays getting married are obviously not living a high risk life style, and no one is asking you to foot the bill. And you tried your best to ignore all the other life style related illnesses that ARE being paid for with your tax dollars.

That sort of a selective argument is silly. Your premise is wrong and you choose to ignore too much.



Then there was the discussion ab out morality. In which you claimed that the morality is based on the major religions. But you don't like the morality of the 2nd biggest religion, and the morality based on christianity has changed numerous times. So that topic was a wash for you.




And last but not least your commenty about marriage and what it included. Rather than correct my error, you insisted on throwing insults and refusing to clarify what you meant.





No SM, you have continually bumbled and fumbled around this topic for long enough.




We get that you want things as they were 6,000 years ago (except for the technology and social changes that you like).

We get that you think sodomy is bad. And we get that you think oral sex is bad, so I guess I can pity you and your wife for the lack of fun in your marriage.

We get that you agree with the christian right.

We get that you base your morality on your religion.

We get that you will continue to believe what you believe, despite evidence that you are wrong.




But if you have any new ideas be sure and let me know.
 
Southern Man said:
Actually, I don't advocate tax payers paying for anyone's poor choices, gay or otherwise.
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Oh I see. Ok, so you want everyone to be responsible for their own decisions?

But you want gays to be unable to make a decision to marry their partner?

Interesting that you believe in independence and self reliance when it suits your ideals, but not when it doesn't.

Nice cherry-picking.
 
Solitary said:
Oh I see. Ok, so you want everyone to be responsible for their own decisions?

But you want gays to be unable to make a decision to marry their partner?

Interesting that you believe in independence and self reliance when it suits your ideals, but not when it doesn't.

Nice cherry-picking.
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Actually, I prefer that people who choose to be gay accept the fact that society does not see their relationship to be on par with traditional marriage. I'm surprised that you would still be confused with my view on that. Or are you attempting yet another logical fallacy?
 
Southern Man said:
Actually, I prefer that people who choose to be gay accept the fact that society does not see their relationship to be on par with traditional marriage. I'm surprised that you would still be confused with my view on that. Or are you attempting yet another logical fallacy?
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I still wonder at what point would it matter if they choose or if they simply are 'ghey'?

Consider an oddity, a fetish. Let's pick one of the weirdest (weird, not gross, there are far worse ones that I prefer not to think about) I discovered when I was researching a book where one of the main characters was a fetishist. Some people are turned on by balloons popping, odd but true.

(Digression: Imagine bubble wrap in the hands of such a person. Opening a package might be considered masturbation...)

Anyway, do you think they'd choose such an easily mocked and just odd way to get excited? Why would they "choose" such a thing. Now take it to another level. What if you got excited when you looked at somebody of the same sex rather than somebody of the opposite sex. Would you "choose" this? Why would you "choose" such a thing?

Now, while I can understand that some people may actually have a choice, be attracted to both and still choose to prefer people of their own sex, but the reality is what gets you excited is rarely a conscious choice, and for most there never was a "choice" day. If such a day existed I think we'd celebrate it as one of the most important days of a person's life.
 
Damocles said:
I still wonder at what point would it matter if they choose or if they simply are 'ghey'?

Consider an oddity, a fetish. Let's pick one of the weirdest (weird, not gross, there are far worse ones that I prefer not to think about) I discovered when I was researching a book where one of the main characters was a fetishist. Some people are turned on by balloons popping, odd but true.

(Digression: Imagine bubble wrap in the hands of such a person. Opening a package might be considered masturbation...)

Anyway, do you think they'd choose such an easily mocked and just odd way to get excited? Why would they "choose" such a thing. Now take it to another level. What if you got excited when you looked at somebody of the same sex rather than somebody of the opposite sex. Would you "choose" this? Why would you "choose" such a thing?

Now, while I can understand that some people may actually have a choice, be attracted to both and still choose to prefer people of their own sex, but the reality is what gets you excited is rarely a conscious choice, and for most there never was a "choice" day. If such a day existed I think we'd celebrate it as one of the most important days of a person's life.
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Balloons popping? That's kinda comical.

Most of the people who are so obsessed with gay sex and gay marriage, are, 10-1, the real sickolas anyway. Just look at how many of them are divorced. Right on this board you have the biggest squeakers on gay marriage, divorced. Fact.

Oh how free they feel to go forward and forgive their own sins. They truly are just as comical as the poor idiot who gets hot over balloons.
 
Damocles said:
I still wonder at what point would it matter if they choose or if they simply are 'ghey'?.....
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If someone was born blind I wouldn't expect society to give them a driver's license. The person simply is not qualified. Same for gays and marriage.
 
Southern Man said:
If someone was born blind I wouldn't expect society to give them a driver's license. The person simply is not qualified. Same for gays and marriage.
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A blind person is not capable of driving safely. A blind person driving is a danger to others.


A gay couple getting married is no danger to anyone.
 
Also i don't think we should overlook the benefits of homosexual blind couples, with their heightened olfactory abilities, being able to smell each other's manly scent from considerable distance and thus be forewarned of any unwanted domestic bumpage.
 
charver said:
Also i don't think we should overlook the benefits of homosexual blind couples, with their heightened olfactory abilities, being able to smell each other's manly scent from considerable distance and thus be forewarned of any unwanted domestic bumpage.
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:lolup:

Now THAT was funny.
 
Solitary said:
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A gay couple getting married is no danger to anyone.
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All of the worlds major religions, representing a large majority of the earth's population disagree with that. Perhaps you can prove it scientifically and convince them otherwise. :)
 
Southern Man said:
All of the worlds major religions, representing a large majority of the earth's population disagree with that. Perhaps you can prove it scientifically and convince them otherwise. :)
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The world's most common religions do agree that gay marriage is against their religious beliefs.

But religious beliefs do not rule in the USA. A little document called the US Constitution saw to that.

And there is a HUGE difference between not following a religious belief and being a danger to others. There is nothing that any of the major religions can say that shows gay marriage constitutes a danger to anyone else.
 
Solitary said:
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But religious beliefs do not rule in the USA. A little document called the US Constitution saw to that......
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You mean that little document that followed a Declaration that began with: "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator ..."? :readit:
 
Southern Man said:
You mean that little document that followed a Declaration that began with: "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator ..."? :readit:
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Yes, that is the document I mean.

Of course, you might check and see which document is the foundation for our entire government and laws. And which document holds no legal power at all.
 
Solitary said:
Yes, that is the document I mean.

Of course, you might check and see which document is the foundation for our entire government and laws. And which document holds no legal power at all.
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So where did "the Blessings of Liberty" come from then?
 
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