A President In Trouble.

Hello Concart,

Concart said:
Polling is not intended to predict a result. Polling is intended to reflect what the result WOULD BE if the election were held on the day the poll was taken. So while it is true that people can make up their minds late, it does not invalidate the polls, nor does it render them meaningless. If they were, campaigns wouldn't bother doing them. In fact, final 2016 national polls were largely accurate. There was probably a small late swing toward Trump in the last day or two, but the final polls showed Clinton winning the popular vote by 3.3%, the actual margin was 2.1%
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Yes, let us not forget that Hillary did win the popular vote just as the polls predicted. DT barely squeaked by. Nobody was more surprised at his win than he was.
 
PoliTalker said:
What a fool he has been!

He has married himself to the economy and now the economy has tanked.

He is desperate to resurrect the economy, but that simply cannot be done. He is in trouble.

He was so focused on the stock market that he completely failed us when we needed decisive leadership to face this crisis.

He tried to ignore it, tried to BS his way out of it (just like he has always done - he has built a life on ConMan BS, shaping the perception of things.)

But this is a demanding crisis which could not be BS'd away.

He has met his match.

He is in trouble and he knows it.

Having failed at fooling everyone that this is not a horrible crisis, (it clearly is,) he has shifted to trying to lay the blame on others.

Failing at blame redirection, he is also trying to cut down Biden. The problem is Biden doesn't have all the dirty laundry that Hillary had.

Look for more attacks on Hunter Biden. You know that's coming. President 'Very Stable Genius' will try anything.

I like how Biden made it very clear there will be no pardon. That was awesome.

Hang on, folks. Take care of yourselves. We are in for a very wild ride.
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The only President that is in trouble is Obama and his entire FBI/DOJ and Intel Community for seditious conspiracy.

Trump isn't trying to shift blame it is an indisputable fact that China with the direct aid of the corrupt WHO covered up the outbreak in Wuhan and its severity for months, possibly as early as October, it is also an indisputable fact that according to a study by the University of Southhampton had they warned the world only 3 weeks earlier than the silencing of the doctor from Wuhan who died that 95% of the outbreak would have been contained.

Before China and the UN tanked the global economy deliberately the US economy was booming and Americans know this indisputable fact as well.

Both Hunter and Joe are bought and paid for Chinese assets so yes you will be hearing more about that indisputable fact too.

Nobody is going to vote for the senile Chinese asset Joe Biden, and now that Obama and the MSM have been proven to be completely corrupt they won't be able to drag him over the finish line just like they couldn't get the Russian colluder Clinton the W either.
 
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PoliTalker said:
Hello Concart,



Yes, let us not forget that Hillary did win the popular vote just as the polls predicted. DT barely squeaked by. Nobody was more surprised at his win than he was.
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Yep. I remember a couple of days after the election, Good Morning America had a pollster from the LA Times on, asking how he 'had gotten it right', because the Times predicted a 3 point win for Trump. I wanted to throw a shoe through the television. They were less accurate than ANY of the major pollsters, as they missed the final result by more than five points. But because they had Trump winning, people were proclaiming they were 'right'. Not even close.
 
PoliTalker said:
Hello Concart,



Yes, let us not forget that Hillary did win the popular vote just as the polls predicted. DT barely squeaked by. Nobody was more surprised at his win than he was.
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The popular vote means jack shit, republicans don't bother campaigning or voting in deep blue States so it is an indicator of absolutely fucking nothing and Trump won in an electoral college landslide there was no squeaking by about it, Trump still leads in the swing states that he needs to win and Biden can't string two sentences together he's going to lose worse than Clinton.
 
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Hello Concart,

Concart said:
Yep. I remember a couple of days after the election, Good Morning America had a pollster from the LA Times on, asking how he 'had gotten it right', because the Times predicted a 3 point win for Trump. I wanted to throw a shoe through the television. They were less accurate than ANY of the major pollsters, as they missed the final result by more than five points. But because they had Trump winning, people were proclaiming they were 'right'. Not even close.
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He falsely claimed he had the biggest inauguration.

What he really meant was that he had the biggest imagination.
 
Gamewell45 said:
Greetings!

You make a good point. For me personally I used to put a lot of credence in polls until the 2016 election cycle and then I realized that the polls could show you winning but if minds changed 24 hours before the election no matter what the polls said the previous day, it was decided on election day. Hence my viewpoint on polling for elected office. I do, however place value on certain non-election polls; for example, who was the greatest president or your favorite hometown sports team, etc.
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The polls in 2016 were very good. Hillary won by the 3 percent predicted.
The EC landslide was deceptive. He won Michigan and a couple of other states by the skin of his mushroom cap. That is why he hates mail-in voting. The Reds have systems in place that hold back likely Dem voters. I don't think they work on mail.
 
PoliTalker said:
What a fool he has been!

He has married himself to the economy and now the economy has tanked.

He is desperate to resurrect the economy, but that simply cannot be done. He is in trouble.

He was so focused on the stock market that he completely failed us when we needed decisive leadership to face this crisis.

He tried to ignore it, tried to BS his way out of it (just like he has always done - he has built a life on ConMan BS, shaping the perception of things.)

But this is a demanding crisis which could not be BS'd away.

He has met his match.

He is in trouble and he knows it.

Having failed at fooling everyone that this is not a horrible crisis, (it clearly is,) he has shifted to trying to lay the blame on others.

Failing at blame redirection, he is also trying to cut down Biden. The problem is Biden doesn't have all the dirty laundry that Hillary had.

Look for more attacks on Hunter Biden. You know that's coming. President 'Very Stable Genius' will try anything.

I like how Biden made it very clear there will be no pardon. That was awesome.

Hang on, folks. Take care of yourselves. We are in for a very wild ride.
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More importantly, his failures have exposed a truth that most of us already knew...citing Wall St. numbers has absolutely nothing to do with the actual economy. The real economy is in serious trouble, but those on Wall St. are reaping huge rewards.

If trump tries to conflate the two in late summer campaign events, or worse yet, in debates against Biden (we know he can't possibly allow any debates to take place) he'll be laughed out of office.
 
PoliTalker said:
What a fool he has been!

He has married himself to the economy and now the economy has tanked.

He is desperate to resurrect the economy, but that simply cannot be done. He is in trouble.

He was so focused on the stock market that he completely failed us when we needed decisive leadership to face this crisis.

He tried to ignore it, tried to BS his way out of it (just like he has always done - he has built a life on ConMan BS, shaping the perception of things.)

But this is a demanding crisis which could not be BS'd away.

He has met his match.

He is in trouble and he knows it.

Having failed at fooling everyone that this is not a horrible crisis, (it clearly is,) he has shifted to trying to lay the blame on others.

Failing at blame redirection, he is also trying to cut down Biden. The problem is Biden doesn't have all the dirty laundry that Hillary had.

Look for more attacks on Hunter Biden. You know that's coming. President 'Very Stable Genius' will try anything.

I like how Biden made it very clear there will be no pardon. That was awesome.

Hang on, folks. Take care of yourselves. We are in for a very wild ride.
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TDS. What crime?
 
Nordberg said:
The polls in 2016 were very good. Hillary won by the 3 percent predicted.
The EC landslide was deceptive. He won Michigan and a couple of other states by the skin of his mushroom cap. That is why he hates mail-in voting. The Reds have systems in place that hold back likely Dem voters. I don't think they work on mail.
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Hillary didn't win. Trump won. He is currently the President of the United States.
 
Althea said:
More importantly, his failures have exposed a truth that most of us already knew...citing Wall St. numbers has absolutely nothing to do with the actual economy. The real economy is in serious trouble, but those on Wall St. are reaping huge rewards.

If trump tries to conflate the two in late summer campaign events, or worse yet, in debates against Biden (we know he can't possibly allow any debates to take place) he'll be laughed out of office.
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The faith in your belief is strong in this one. I hope you have your post election therapist lined up already. There's going to be a real shortage of them I hear.
 
PoliTalker said:
Hello Concart,



He falsely claimed he had the biggest inauguration.

What he really meant was that he had the biggest imagination.
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We have the photos proving that the DNC ministry of propaganda which comprises nearly the entirety of the free press used photos from before people showed up to make it look like it was a low turn out, sorry but thanks to the internet the fascist left can't stick things down the memory hole anymore as much as they try through big tech.
 
Nordberg said:
The polls in 2016 were very good. Hillary won by the 3 percent predicted.
The EC landslide was deceptive. He won Michigan and a couple of other states by the skin of his mushroom cap. That is why he hates mail-in voting. The Reds have systems in place that hold back likely Dem voters. I don't think they work on mail.
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And those likely Dem voters are illegal aliens and dead people.
 
Hello Althea,

Althea said:
More importantly, his failures have exposed a truth that most of us already knew...citing Wall St. numbers has absolutely nothing to do with the actual economy. The real economy is in serious trouble, but those on Wall St. are reaping huge rewards.

If trump tries to conflate the two in late summer campaign events, or worse yet, in debates against Biden (we know he can't possibly allow any debates to take place) he'll be laughed out of office.
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I would like to see him laughed out of office and right into a courtroom.
 
Nordberg said:
Wow, you figured that out. we were talking about the accuracy of polling.
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News polls are completely meaningless. There is no accuracy. Go learn about statistical mathematics. Raw data must be used (no 'cooked' or adjusted data), it must be published, the method of collecting it must be published, the variances must be declared and justified, the sources of bias must be removed from the method of collecting the data, and the margin of error must be calculated and accompany all summaries. A statistical summary does not say anything the future.

Put your Holy Entrails away. They don't work.
 
PoliTalker said:
Hello Althea,



I would like to see him laughed out of office and right into a courtroom.
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This will be interesting. Obama chose the high road, and opted not to go after Bush/Cheney. Of course, those were war crimes. trump has broken numerous laws both before and while in office. The moron exposed his crimes by running for office.

His narcissism will be his undoing unless Biden opts for the high road too. Although, it would be his justice dept, which might be headed by Schiff.
 
Hello Althea,

Althea said:
This will be interesting. Obama chose the high road, and opted not to go after Bush/Cheney. Of course, those were war crimes. trump has broken numerous laws both before and while in office. The moron exposed his crimes by running for office.

His narcissism will be his undoing unless Biden opts for the high road too. Although, it would be his justice dept, which might be headed by Schiff.
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Oh yes.

What a great thought!

Adam Schiff as Attorney General.

That would be poetic Justice.

Although, I'd rather see him on the Supreme Court.
 
PoliTalker said:
Hello Althea,



Oh yes.

What a great thought!

Adam Schiff as Attorney General.

That would be poetic Justice.

Although, I'd rather see him on the Supreme Court.
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Shifty, pencil-neck Schiff should be in prison.

Shouldn’t you be cheering, again, the economic loss to millions of Americans caused by the Virus from China that China failed to contain.
 
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