US doctors claim that hydroxychloroquine drug DOES help 91% of COVID Patients

Grokmaster said:
READ the AAPS STATEMENT. IT REFERS TO PEOPLE BEING TREATED, NOT THOSE WITH LITTLE OR NO SYMPTOMS.
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I said, "Of those who do show symptoms, at least 91.6% are going to get better regardless of treatment."

You said, "IT REFERS TO PEOPLE BEING TREATED, NOT THOSE WITH LITTLE OR NO SYMPTOMS."

Congratulations, YOU'VE SHOWN AGAIN TO EVERYONE HERE THAT YOU'RE A MORON.
 
Bobb said:
I said, "Of those who do show symptoms, at least 91.6% are going to get better regardless of treatment."

You said, "IT REFERS TO PEOPLE BEING TREATED, NOT THOSE WITH LITTLE OR NO SYMPTOMS."

Congratulations, YOU'VE SHOWN AGAIN TO EVERYONE HERE THAT YOU'RE A MORON.
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NOT WHAT THE DOCTOR'S ASSOCIATION SAID,DUMBFUCK.


" AAPS presented data obtained after a study of 2,333 coronavirus patients treated with the hydroxychloroquine drug. The study found that 91.6% of patients got better after being administered the drug."


FELL FREE TO CONTINUE MAKING UP WHATEVER BULSHIT YOU NEED TO


WHAT A FUCKING DUNCE. .
 
Bobb said:
jew-controlled media
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Grokmaster said:
Thank You
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The Neo-Nazism is running crazy lately.

In the real world, none of Bobb's numbers are real, but patients do suddenly recover from viruses. Any researcher worth his salt knows that it is very difficult to know which antivirals work, because they all appear to work, and yet none of them work well when actually studied. We are in an emergency situation, so I think the WHO's plan of testing everything at once to find the best care solution is the best way. I really do not know why the Neo-Nazis are so against any testing of their theories.
 
Darth Omar said:
How about we just wait to see what the studies actually show when they come out in about a year. In the meantime, we can hope Trump was right. And if he was wrong, why on earth does it matter?
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The WHO is trying to get studies done in near real time. That means we can compare treatments as they are happening. If trump is wrong, and we go based on his gut rather than the huge trials happening now, then maybe a million or so people will die. He has almost no chance of being right, so it is a big chance you are asking us to take.
 
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There are three clinical trials currently underway in the UK

Principle

The Principle trial is studying people aged 50 to 64 who have COVID-19 symptoms and a chronic health condition such as heart disease, asthma or cancer.

It is unclear how many patients are taking part.

It is also open to those aged 65 or over, with or without other illnesses.

The first drug that will be trialled is hydroxychloroquine, sold as Plaquenil. Other potential treatments will be used if they show promise in pre-clinical studies.

The study is being run at the Royal College of General Practitioners (RCGP) Research and Surveillance Centre (RSC) in Surrey.

It will last until March next year.

Recovery

The Randomised Evaluation of COV-id19 thERapY (RECOVERY) trial is being run by the University of Oxford.

It will test the HIV drug lopinavir/ritonavir, marketed as Kaletra and Aluvia, hydroxychloroquine, a malaria medication sold as Plaquenil, and dexamethasone, a type of steroid use in a range of conditions to reduce inflammation.

Almost 1,000 patients from 132 different hospitals have been already recruited in just 15 days.

Thousands more are expected to join the trial in the coming weeks, making it the largest randomised controlled trial of potential COVID-19 treatments in the world.

Definitive results on whether the treatments are safe and effective are expected within months and, if positive, they could potentially benefit hundreds of thousands of people worldwide.

REMAP-CAP

The REMAP-CAP trial is an international effort, with more than 50 research teams around the world taking part.

It is looking specifically at patients who develop community-acquired pneumonia (CAP) as a result of viral infections.

The study will test 16 drugs, including hydroxychloroquine, lopinavir/ritonavir and interferon beta, which have all shown promise in pre-clinical trials.

Between 2,000 and 4,000 patients will be enrolled.
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...-coronavirus-NOT-Oxford-University-trial.html
 
Grokmaster said:
NOT WHAT THE DOCTOR'S ASSOCIATION SAID
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It's not "the doctors' association". The group you are quoting is a political advocacy group of around 5000 members, originally formed to oppose government involvement in health care. Look them up. They oppose medicare and medicaid, oppose universal health care, and insist that handguns save lives. :rolleyes:
 
Grokmaster said:
PATIENTS NEED IT TO WORK; ONLY LEFTIDIOTS TRY TO BLOCK A SUCCESSFUL TREATMENT, FOR POLITICAL REASONS, LEFTIDIOT.
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Just because patients need it to work, does not mean that it will work. People across the country "need to win the lottery", but most will not win.

Why don't we put in the hard work to get the best treatment? That seems like the best solution. It is not as good of a solution as magic, if magic works, but usually magic does not work.
 
Walt said:
Just because patients need it to work, does not mean that it will work. People across the country "need to win the lottery", but most will not win.

Why don't we put in the hard work to get the best treatment? That seems like the best solution. It is not as good of a solution as magic, if magic works, but usually magic does not work.
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READ THE OP LINK. IT IS WORKING.

OH WAIT...YOU KNOW MORE THAN MDs AND SURGEONS???
 
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LOCKDOWN could be lifted by mid-summer as more than 120 drugs are being investigated as treatments for coronavirus.

Coronavirus: Expert reveals when vaccine 'could be available'

It comes as a team at Chelsea and Westminster hospital announce a 450-person coronavirus study of the flu drug favipiravir and antimalarial drug hydroxychloroquine. These trials could lead to quicker results than waiting for a vaccine.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1...n-uk-covid19-death-toll-latest-vaccine-trials
 
moon said:
You mean American MDs and surgeons, eh ? What the rest of the world's MDs and surgeons say doesn't matter, right ?
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What do surgeons have to do with it lol?

Surgeons are consulted if there’s a potential for surgery. Drug treatments for viral infections aren’t their specialty.
 
moon said:
You mean American MDs and surgeons, eh ? What the rest of the world's MDs and surgeons say doesn't matter, right ?
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Grokmaster means a group speaking for 5000 US doctors with an ultra-conservative political agenda. Meanwhile, somewhere in outer darkness ...


The Oxford COVID-19 Evidence Service Team - April 14, 2020

Current data do not support the use of hydroxychloroquine for prophylaxis or treatment of COVID-19. Two trials of hydroxychloroquine treatment that are in the public domain are premature analyses of trials whose conduct diverged from the published skeleton protocols registered on clinical trial sites. Neither they, nor three other negative trials that have since appeared, support the view that hydroxychloroquine is effective in the management of even mild COVID-19 disease.

https://www.cebm.net/covid-19/hydroxychloroquine-for-covid-19-what-do-the-clinical-trials-tell-us/


I am not against this being tried, with suitable precautions. But there is no evidence that it's a "game changer".
 
moon said:
You mean American MDs and surgeons, eh ? What the rest of the world's MDs and surgeons say doesn't matter, right ?
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They OVERWHELMINGLY AGREE...except fpr the LYING LEFTISTS, of course.


Malaria drug hydroxychlororquine is ‘most effective coronavirus treatment currently available’, docs say



A DRUG which prevents malaria is the “most effective” coronavirus drug currently available, thousands of doctors have said.

Thirty-seven per cent of the 6,200 physicians from 30 countries questioned in a survey said that hydroxychloroquine is the best therapy on the market.

Trials of hydroxychloroquine in China show it can reduce the severe effects of coronavirus leading experts to consider using the medicine to treat people who have tested positive for the bug but are yet to show symptoms.

Yet, with thousands of people dying every day, doctors across the world – including in the US, China and Europe – have been given the greenlight to prescribe the malaria medicine to coronavirus patients.
https://www.the-sun.com/news/635367/...e-coronavirus/


 
Grokmaster said:

The AMERICAN ASSOCIATIION OF PHYSICIANS and SURGEONS HAS CALLED OUT THE LYING LEFT/FAKE NEWS' BULLSHIT IN REGARD TO THE USE OF HYDROXYCHLOROQUINE AS A TREATMENT FOR COVID 19 PATIENTS,ESPECIALLY THE PILE OF DISTROTED BULLSHIT FROM THE VA NON-STUDY, IN NO UNCERTAIN TERMS:





US doctors claim that hydroxychloroquine DOES help 91% of coronavirus patients and argue we should not wait for 'controlled trials'


US President Donald Trump received the support of the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons (AAPS) for his promotion of an anti-malarial drug to treat the coronavirus.

AAPS presented data obtained after a study of 2,333 coronavirus patients treated with the hydroxychloroquine drug. The study found that 91.6% of patients got better after being administered the drug.

In a letter to Arizona Governor Doug Ducey, AAPS urged doctors to use hydroxychloroquine to treat coronavirus patients without waiting for the results of "gold standard" tests.

The recommendation comes after President Trump called hydroxychloroquine apotential "game changer" in a press briefing on the coronavirus crisis.


Some of President Trump's critics, including US doctors, have attacked the president's recommendation, claiming the drug does not help treat Corona and even increases the risk of death from the disease.


Some of President Trump's critics, including US doctors, have attacked the president's recommendation, claiming the drug does not help treat coronavirus and even increases the risk of death from the disease. According to the AAPS, the deaths cited were of people in very serious condition and "not indicative" of any adverse affects of hydroxychloroquine .






http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/279418



Hydroxychloroquine Has about 90 Percent Chance of Helping COVID-19 Patients


To date, the total number of reported patients treated with HCQ, with or without zinc and the widely used antibiotic azithromycin, is 2,333, writes AAPS, in observational data from China, France, South Korea, Algeria, and the U.S. Of these, 2,137 or 91.6 percent improved clinically. There were 63 deaths, all but 11 in a single retrospective report from the Veterans Administration where the patients were severely ill.



https://aapsonline.org/hcq-90-percent-chance/





AAPS Letter Asking Gov. Ducey to Rescind Executive Order concerning hydroxychloroquine in COVID-19


https://aapsonline.org/aaps-letter-...er-concerning-hydroxychloroquine-in-covid-19/
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Wrong. It kills people. Especially when combined with other drugs. 91% of the patients would have gotten better if they were given nothing. Were there any control patients?
 
Crocodile said:
And we know those numbers are bull so these "Doctors" come into question immediately with such overblown claims. Even many highly recognized treatments for major illnesses don't have those success numbers. Quit being so damn gullible because you want to excuse your dipshit political messiah.
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Please try to remain civil ;)
 
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