This doctor says lockdown is a lie

I had no idea, would imagine it would be pretty far left of everyone here...... You get banned?? Like @ DU?? They don't tolerate the least opposition.......

I use to listen or watch it a lot years ago but it's kinda depressing~never much good news..........

Yeh sorry I meant DU, no I stayed for a few days decided they were a bunch of arseholes and left them to it! I wouldn't have lasted long anyway. This is should be their logo!

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Yeh sorry I meant DU, no I stayed for a few days decided they were a bunch of arseholes and left them to it! I wouldn't have lasted long anyway. This is should be their logo!

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Surprised you didn't get banned..... I hear lots of ppl get bounce out day one, post one. I think Sailor or Moose was given the boot after one post..

I signed up there years ago & never posted..
 
Surprised you didn't get banned..... I hear lots of ppl get bounce out day one, post one. I think Sailor or Moose was given the boot after one post..

I signed up there years ago & never posted..

I only posted about four or five times, definitely got the sense that they were a bunch of Nazis though. Joanie would have been right at home though.
 
Across the country, hospitals shut down 'non-essential' procedures in preparation for a surge of coronavirus patients that never appeared.

When the lockdowns began last month, we were told that if we didn’t stay home our hospitals would be overwhelmed with coronavirus patients, intensive care wards would be overrun, there wouldn’t be enough ventilators, and some people would probably die in their homes for lack of care. To maintain capacity in the health-care system, we all had to go on lockdown—not just the big cities, but everywhere.

So we stayed home, businesses closed, and tens of millions of Americans lost their jobs. But with the exception of Blue York Shitty, the overwhelming surge of coronavirus patients never really appeared—at least not in the predicted numbers, which have been off by hundreds of thousands.

During a press conference Wednesday, Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis noted that health "experts" initially projected 465,000 Floridians would be hospitalized because of coronavirus by April 24. But as of April 22, the number is slightly more than 2,000.

Even in Blue York, where Homo Cuomo said last month he would need 30,000 ventilators, hospitals never came close to needing that many. The projected peak need was about 5,000, and actual usage may have been even lower.

Other overflow measures have also proven unnecessary.

On Tuesday, President Trump said the USNS Comfort, the Navy hospital ship that had been deployed to Blue York to provide emergency care for coronavirus patients, will be leaving.

The ship had been prepared to treat 500 patients. As of Friday, only 71 beds were occupied.

An Army field hospital set up in Seattle’s pro football stadium shut down earlier this month without ever having seen a single patient.

It’s the same story in much of the country.

In Texas, where this week Gov. Greg Abbott began loosening lockdown measures, including a prohibition on most medical procedures, hospitals aren’t overwhelmed. In Dallas and Houston, where coronavirus cases are concentrated in the state, makeshift overflow centers that had been under construction might not be used at all.

In Sillinois, where hospitals across the state scrambled to stock up on ventilators last month, fewer than half of them have been put to use—and as of Sunday, only 757 of 1,345 ventilators were being used by COVID-19 patients.

In Virginia, only about 22 percent of the ventilator supply is being used.

Meanwhile, hospitals and health care systems nationwide have had to furlough or lay off thousands of employees.

Why? Because the vast major of most hospitals’ revenue comes from elective or “non-essential” procedures.

We’re not talking about LASIK eye surgery but things like coronary angioplasty and stents, procedures that are necessary but maybe not emergencies—yet.

If hospitals can’t perform these procedures because governors have banned them, then they can’t pay their bills, or their employees.

To take just one example, a doctor who works in a cardiac intensive care unit (ICU) in rural Virginia related how they had reorganized their entire system around caring for coronavirus patients. They had cancelled most “non-essential” procedures, imposed furloughs and pay cuts, and created a special ICU ward for patients with COVID-19.

So far, they have had only one patient. One. The nurses assigned to the COVID-19 ward have very little to do. In the entire area covered by this hospital system, only about 30 people have tested positive for COVID-19.

The governors and health officials who ordered these lockdowns based their decisions on deeply flawed and woefully inaccurate models, and they should have been less panicky and more skeptical, but they were facing a completely new disease about which, thanks to China, they had almost no reliable information.

It seems clear that treating the entire country as if it were Blue York Shitty was a huge mistake that has cost millions of American jobs and destroyed untold amounts of wealth.

Now that we know our hospitals aren’t going to be overrun by COVID-19 cases, governors and mayors should immediately reverse course and begin opening their states and communities for business.

Of course, some already are.

Public officials responsible for the lockdowns will no doubt claim that without these draconian measures, our hospitals surely would have been overwhelmed. It’s an unfalsifiable assertion.

At this point we should all be able to agree that the predictions were way off, and not just because they didn’t take into account stay-at-home orders or business closures, because they did.

The "experts" were wrong.

The best thing governors and mayors can do now is admit as much, and start lifting lockdown orders so people—including doctors and nurses—can get back to work.


https://thefederalist.com/2020/04/23/instead-of-flattening-the-curve-we-flattened-hospitals-doctors-and-the-u-s-health-care-system/
 
You are a horrible person.
Trump's pandemic is not a hand to play. His failings, like a virus, is out of every sane person's control, thanks to morons like you. But if there is a silver lining, it will be that Trump is destroyed, asshole.
Is Trump dead yet?
Maybe he will die.
The only reason I don't call all of you republitards pedos for no fucking reason is because I want to be here to laugh in your fucking faces when Biden trounces Trump and he is kicked out on his ass then indicted. Eatshit you fucking traitor loser. I'll be here.
You are an evil person and your death would be a welcome event in this universe

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It's a fact that anybody can make a video and put it on YouTube, is there anyway of verifying that this person claiming to be a doctor is really a doctor, and how qualified is he????????
 
This is a technique the rightys have used over and over. They find an outlier and declare that his opinion should get exactly as much importance as the vast amount of doctors who agreed about a problem. It is the global warming and economic trick. We have to give just as much time to a person who says things as the huge group that is counter to it.We have strings of economists who state what they think will happen and we should bring Steven Moore on with equal time to counter it. Real logic does not work that way. The body of knowledge should be honored, The person outside looking in should be footnoted.
 
I only posted about four or five times, definitely got the sense that they were a bunch of Nazis though. Joanie would have been right at home though.
Yea, petty & draconian.. After I saw how picky & trivial they are, I didn't even wanna go there, signed out, never back in..
 
This is a technique the rightys have used over and over. They find an outlier and declare that his opinion should get exactly as much importance as the vast amount of doctors who agreed about a problem. It is the global warming and economic trick. We have to give just as much time to a person who says things as the huge group that is counter to it.We have strings of economists who state what they think will happen and we should bring Steven Moore on with equal time to counter it. Real logic does not work that way. The body of knowledge should be honored, The person outside looking in should be footnoted.

You're such an arsehole, beyond delusional

Even Michael Moore has seen the light!!


https://notrickszone.com/2020/04/22...reen-energies-a-delusion-billionaire-bonanza/
 
Not really. He didn't make the film, and it ultimately argues for depopulation and forced Sovietization of society.

Good point, I forgot to mention that.......

:thinking: Gotta wonder what they are thinking & how to carry that out...
 
Good point, I forgot to mention that.......

Gotta wonder what they are thinking & how to carry that out...

Having already achieved zero population growth in much of the West, I wonder if PC progressives will now try to retard reproduction and quash consumerism in developing nations.
 
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Before this the standard procedure was to intubate and treat the patient as if they had TB or pneumonia.
However doctors were noticing that many were dying not from the virus but the brutal procedure itself.

In the 1780s, medical authorities largely agreed: insufflation of the rectum with tobacco smoke was the best treatment for near-drowning. Therefore, the Royal Humane Society lined the banks of the river Thames with tobacco smoke enema kits and rewarded heroic members of the public who used them to ‘save’ drowning victims.

It’s easy to laugh at their efforts. With our modern insistence on evidence-based medicine, we would never significantly invest in medical infrastructure that has not been proven beneficial by a randomised control trial. Except of course we have, and we continue to do so. No area of medicine is immune to these lapses. But it is my own specialty of life-support medicine where this has recently been thrown into the sharpest relief.

As I previously reported in the Spectator, these has never been a randomised control trial to show that sedating people with severe pneumonia in order to put a breathing tube down their throat (the process known as intubation), in order to hook them up to a mechanical ventilator is lifesaving at any particular point in their illness. Neither has there been such a trial in chimps, dogs, sheep or rats. Yet it is a firmly entrenched belief that intubation and ventilation are necessary once a patient requires a high level of supplemental oxygen. Or it was.

While most Western governments were in a mad dash to manufacture ventilators for Covid-19 pneumonia in March, a burgeoning movement within the medical community was starting to question their use. This movement largely operated outside of the traditional networks of academic journals and conferences. Rather, it used Twitter, YouTube, and even podcasts.

Read more: https://app.spectator.co.uk/2020/05...estioning-the-use-of-ventilators/content.html
 
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