George Zimmerman case ( state used phony witness) proceeding in Florida

Nomad said:
Martin jumped on Zmmerman and began beating him.
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That is what Zimmerman claims.

We absolutely know what was happening before that. Martin was running to get home, and Zimmerman was chasing him in a car. Zimmerman then left his car to try to "get" Martin.

What Zimmerman claims happened next was Martin magically appeared behind him, and tackled him. Then Martin magically moved beneath Zimmerman, so the bullet could go through his head and hit the pavement.

A non-magical explanation: Zimmerman did what he said he would do. He got out of his car and tackled Martin. Martin struggled trying to get away, and Zimmerman shot him. No magic required.
 
Florida has a stand your ground law. Zimmerman was chasing Martin with a car (a deadly weapon) and a gun(a deadly weapon). He was going to kill Martin. Doesn't stand your ground mean Martin should have been allowed to kill Zimmerman?
 
Walt said:
Florida has a stand your ground law. Zimmerman was chasing Martin with a car (a deadly weapon) and a gun(a deadly weapon). He was going to kill Martin. Doesn't stand your ground mean Martin should have been allowed to kill Zimmerman?
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That's a false statement. Zimmerman was sitting in his parked truck and never used it to follow Martin. There is no evidence he planned kill Martin and, if as some falsely claim, Zimmerman was chasing Martin with his gun drawn, then why was only one shot fired and it was while Zimmerman was on his back on the ground with Martin over him?
 
Dutch Uncle said:
That's a false statement. Zimmerman was sitting in his parked truck and never used it to follow Martin. There is no evidence he planned kill Martin and, if as some falsely claim, Zimmerman was chasing Martin with his gun drawn, then why was only one shot fired and it was while Zimmerman was on his back on the ground with Martin over him?
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You might be that perv uncle kept locked in the attic, but at least you're not lying on this issue, like that mentally retarded racist Walt.

The evidence proves that the negger Tryavon circuled around the building and ambushed Zimmerman, because the fight took place in in the same spot where Zimmerman was talking to police earlier.
 
Bobb said:
You might be that perv uncle kept locked in the attic, but at least you're not lying on this issue, like that mentally retarded racist Walt.

The evidence proves that the negger Tryavon circuled around the building and ambushed Zimmerman, because the fight took place in in the same spot where Zimmerman was talking to police earlier.
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Racist nutjobs like yourself do more harm than good to our nation.

Regardless of how fucking ignorant, racist, inbred and snaggletoothed you are, the evidence backs up the assertion that Martin did, indeed, lose Zimmerman then, as Zimmerman was walking back to his truck, confronted and attacked him.
 
Bobb said:
Then why don't you tell people to stop commiting crimes, instead of whining like the racist bitch you are when a white guy defends himself when neggers attack?
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Zimmerman isn't exactly a White guy, LMFAO.

He looks very mixed race Latino to me.

But, if I were followed, harassed & stalked, I might react too.
 
Nomad said:
So then what you're saying is that Zimmerman should have politely asked Trayvon to get off of his back and stop slamming his head onto the sidewalk, while he ran back to his car to get his pepper spray?

Suggestion: If you aren't thoroughly, 100% familiar with the facts and details of a case, you shouldn't make uninformed comments about it. Trayvon came up on Zimmerman out of the darkness, verbally confronted him about following him, then without warning, launched into a sudden physical attack, knocking Zimmerman down, getting on top of him then alternately beat Zimmerman on the head with his fists and pounded Zimmerman's head onto the concrete sidewalk.


Exactly when was he supposed to run and get pepper spray?
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Pepper spray is effective.

If I were followed, harassed & stalked, I might react too.

This is Wild Wild West nonsense, most of the World supports law & order.

Not chaos & lawlessness.
 
Walt said:
That is what Zimmerman claims.

We absolutely know what was happening before that. Martin was running to get home, and Zimmerman was chasing him in a car. Zimmerman then left his car to try to "get" Martin.

What Zimmerman claims happened next was Martin magically appeared behind him, and tackled him. Then Martin magically moved beneath Zimmerman, so the bullet could go through his head and hit the pavement.

A non-magical explanation: Zimmerman did what he said he would do. He got out of his car and tackled Martin. Martin struggled trying to get away, and Zimmerman shot him. No magic required.
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You are utterly clueless.

1) Martin was shot in the chest, through his heart, from a foot or two away, not through his head.

2) There was an eyewitness who testified at the trial, that he was watching from about 20 feet or so away and that Trayvon was sitting on top of Zimmerman, punching him in the head "MMA style" (mixed martial arts).


I'll give you the same suggestion I gave the other idiot... If you aren't thoroughly, 100% familiar with the facts and details of a case, you shouldn't make uninformed comments about it.

FYI... I live in Central Florida, about 30 minutes from Sanford, the town where it all happened. Suffice it to say the local news coverage was quite thorough.

Again, you'd do well to learn the facts of a subject before you start talking crap about it and making yourself look like a fool.
 
WitoldPilecki said:
Pepper spray is effective.

If I were followed, harassed & stalked, I might react too.

This is Wild Wild West nonsense, most of the World supports law & order.

Not chaos & lawlessness.
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If you were a mature young man who just wanted to get home safely rather than a violent Miami punk looking for a fight, you'd have just gone straight home rather than hide in the shadows and lie in wait to attack the person who was following you.
 
Nomad said:
You are utterly clueless.

1) Martin was shot in the chest, through his heart, from a foot or two away, not through his head.

2) There was an eyewitness who testified at the trial, that he was watching from about 20 feet or so away and that Trayvon was sitting on top of Zimmerman, punching him in the head "MMA style" (mixed martial arts).

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I'll give you the same suggestion I gave the other idiot... If you aren't thoroughly, 100% familiar with the facts and details of a case, you shouldn't make uninformed comments about it.

FYI... I live in Central Florida, about 30 minutes from Sanford, the town where it all happened. Suffice it to say the local news coverage was quite thorough.

Again, you'd do well to learn the facts of a subject before you start talking crap about it and making yourself look like a fool.
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Agreed. The fact Walt claimed Zimmerman was chasing Martin in his car is completely false. Begging the question "Is Walt deliberately lying or is he delusional?"
 
Nomad said:
If you were a mature young man who just wanted to get home safely rather than a violent Miami punk looking for a fight, you'd have just gone straight home rather than hide in the shadows and lie in wait to attack the person who was following you.
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Agreed. Clearly Martin chose to confront Zimmerman. IMO, when he saw Zimmerman was short and pudgy, he decided to give that "creepy-ass cracker" a beat down and came out of hiding to do it.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Agreed. Clearly Martin chose to confront Zimmerman. IMO, when he saw Zimmerman was short and pudgy, he decided to give that "creepy-ass cracker" a beat down and came out of hiding to do it.
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Yep.

And I am no gun-lover, or one of those right-wing crud buckets who cheer and celebrate the death of Martin.

I dislike guns and I dislike gun-loving right-wing jerks even more.

I am only interested in the truth and reality unshaded by any bias or prejudice even if it goes against my own preferences.
 
Nomad said:
If you were a mature young man who just wanted to get home safely rather than a violent Miami punk looking for a fight, you'd have just gone straight home rather than hide in the shadows and lie in wait to attack the person who was following you.
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I didn't know that assault came with a death penalty?

Only in America, LMFAO.
 
Walt said:
If Martin had a gun, would he be well within his rights to defend himself by killing Zimmerman?

Remember, we know that Zimmerman was going to kill Martin, so this question should be a lot easier to answer than if it had actually happened.
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Bald-faced lies like that seriously detract from your reputation. Out of curiosity, what is your evidence that "we know that Zimmerman was going to kill Martin"? If that was true, why wasn't Zimmerman charged with First Degree murder?
 
WitoldPilecki said:
I didn't know that assault came with a death penalty?

Only in America, LMFAO.
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In America you have the legal right to use lethal force to defend yourself against any violent attack that puts you in legitimate fear for your life and/or physical safety and well being.

If you don't like the way we do things here in America, go back to your own dump of a country.

Nobody gives a shit abut how a bunch of fat, dumb, ass-backwards polacks do things over in Poland.

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WitoldPilecki said:
Listen, I don't care about your silly American Wild Wild West Cowboyisms.

The truth is in every other Civilized country,and even most uncivilized countries, Zimmerman would be charged with murder.
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What would a dumbass polack like you know about "civilized" countries?
 
Nomad said:
Yep.

And I am no gun-lover, or one of those right-wing crud buckets who cheer and celebrate the death of Martin.

I dislike guns and I dislike gun-loving right-wing jerks even more.

I am only interested in the truth and reality unshaded by any bias or prejudice even if it goes against my own preferences.
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I am very pro-Constitution and unalienable rights. I never cheered Martin's death, but I strongly support Zimmerman's right of self-defense. Being pinned to the ground and having one's head bashed on the ground would certainly warrant the use of deadly force.

As noted earlier, two (IMO) less-than-100 IQ idiots were out that night: A failed wannabe-cop and a wannebe-gangsta. What the wannabe-gangsta didn't know was that the short, pudgy "creepy-assed cracker" he attacked was armed with a 9mm Kel-Tec PF-9 pistol. Not my first choice of self-defense, but obviously effective that night. It also either saved his life or prevented serious harm from Martin's attack.

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Larry Klayman is very busy, he’s suing Buttigieg, Warren and the Chinese government, he’s such a joke. Always looking for sensationalism and a chance to be relevant.
 
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