Trump Is Up Against a Demographic Time Bomb

WitoldPilecki said:
Given the division & anger in politics it simply can't be ruled out.
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Thanks for admitting you lied earlier in disclaiming you didn't claim there would be a civil war.

BTW, it can't be ruled out that aliens will destroy the Earth making this entire conversation moot.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Thanks for admitting you lied earlier in disclaiming you didn't claim there would be a civil war.

BTW, it can't be ruled out that aliens will destroy the Earth making this entire conversation moot.
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I never saud there was going to be a civil war.

Just because you don't hate Trump or Pelosi.

You assume that things are better than they are politically.
 
WitoldPilecki said:
Socialism is some kind of market planning.

Worked really good in small doses for FDR, the #1 in 20th century America.

Japan after WW2 in the Japanese economic miracle the #1 economic growth period in the 20th century.

Spain in the Spanish miracle the # m2 economic growth period in the 20th century.

Modern China perhaps the most impressive of all being a goliath sized country with top level growth since 1990.
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So not really socialism put a welfare state. Your ideas probably wouldn't get laughed at and mocked if you describe them better.

A socialism is like Venezuela that is a centrally planned economy where the government owns the means of production.

I keep calling it socialism I support that hopefully nobody will ever fall for it. Except of course for the for intellectuals who are brain brainwashing institutes of lesser learning
 
Arks&sparka said:
So not really socialism put a welfare state. Your ideas probably wouldn't get laughed at and mocked if you describe them better.

A socialism is like Venezuela that is a centrally planned economy where the government owns the means of production.

I keep calling it socialism I support that hopefully nobody will ever fall for it.
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Extreme Socialism us bad.
So is extreme Capitalism.

I support some central planning like the above countries succeeses did.
 
WitoldPilecki said:
Extreme Socialism us bad.
So is extreme Capitalism.

I support some central planning like the above countries succeeses did.
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When you say extreme capitalism in my mind if that's anarcho-capitalism. And such an economy doesn't exist.

if you're one of those people who think anything you disagree with his extreme then you have no business in debate and you should be mocked for relentlessly
 
Arks&sparka said:
When you say extreme capitalism in my mind if that's anarcho-capitalism. And such an economy doesn't exist.

if you're one of those people who think anything you disagree with his extreme then you have no business in debate and you should be mocked for relentlessly
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Libertarianism.

Communism has numerous faults

Capitalism has numerous faults.

Our 20% lower Millennial wages are caused by Capitalism.

Which can only be fixed by government.

My plans include getting rid of Corporate charters & confiscating businesses which hire Illegals or outsource.

Limiting but not eliminating the number of automated robots a business can have.

Trustbusting Amazon & Wal-Mart.

Regulation on pollution.

Reforming more land for parks.

Stimulus for research.
 
WitoldPilecki said:
Libertarianism.

Communism has numerous faults

Capitalism has numerous faults.

Our 20% lower Millennial wages are caused by Capitalism.

Which can only be fixed by government.

My plans include getting rid of Corporate charters & confiscating businesses which hire Illegals or outsource.

Limiting but not eliminating the number of automated robots a business can have.

Trustbusting Amazon & Wal-Mart.

Regulation on pollution.

Reforming more land for parks.

Stimulus for research.
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I'm sorry to break it to you but that's not socialism. Socialism is government ownership of the means of production.

What you're describing is a more regulated capitalism.
 
WitoldPilecki said:
Libertarianism.

Communism has numerous faults

Capitalism has numerous faults.

Our 20% lower Millennial wages are caused by Capitalism.

Which can only be fixed by government.

My plans include getting rid of Corporate charters & confiscating businesses which hire Illegals or outsource.

Limiting but not eliminating the number of automated robots a business can have.

Trustbusting Amazon & Wal-Mart.

Regulation on pollution.

Reforming more land for parks.

Stimulus for research.
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Libertarianism is less regulated capitalism. It's not extreme capitalism anarcho-capitalism is more extreme than libertarianism, minarchism is more extreme than libertarianism.

When you call things that aren't the extreme the extreme that's dishonesty.
 
Arks&sparka said:
I'm sorry to break it to you but that's not socialism. Socialism is government ownership of the means of production.

What you're describing is a more regulated capitalism.
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Regulation & Central planning is generally aligned with Socialism.

But, it is also arguable if Nazis or Soviets ever had Socialism by your definition.
Considering the lack of rights to the economy.
 
Arks&sparka said:
Libertarianism is less regulated capitalism. It's not extreme capitalism anarcho-capitalism is more extreme than libertarianism, minarchism is more extreme than libertarianism.

When you call things that aren't the extreme the extreme that's dishonesty.
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Anarchy probably isn't too good for private property & private ownership.

Without cops or courts to define private ownership.
 
Arks&sparka said:
Nothing makes libertarianism extreme. When you say that it is you are losing credibility. People may think your views are extreme. Are they?
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Libertarianism is not viewed well in this World.

Name a Libertarian Utopia? Half the World was Communist during the Cold War.
But
How many were Libertarian?

Truth is the flaws of Libertarianism is just as bad if not worse than Communism.
 
WitoldPilecki said:
Libertarianism is not viewed well in this World.

Name a Libertarian Utopia?
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name a Utopia that wasn't libertarian. I posit that Utopia doesn't exist so saying libertarianism is not quite perfect so therefore its extreme is profoundly moronic.

Half the World was Communist during the Cold War.
But
How many were Libertarian?
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so we have no clue whether it will work or not and no real idea about the problems. It's just speculation strictly from the far left and the ultra-rich.


Truth is the flaws of Libertarianism is just as bad if not worse than Communism.
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Know the truth is you don't know that because it's never been tried. It's just any amount of deregulation is ba-a-a-ad
 
Arks&sparka said:
Nothing makes libertarianism extreme. When you say that it is you are losing credibility. People may think your views are extreme. Are they?
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If the USA was Libertarian during the Cold War?.

Commies would've romped & stomped us.

With a minimal military & pathetic border security.
 
Arks&sparka said:
name a Utopia that wasn't libertarian. I posit that Utopia doesn't exist so saying libertarianism is not quite perfect so therefore its extreme is profoundly moronic.

so we have no clue whether it will work or not and no real idea about the problems. It's just speculation strictly from the far left and the ultra-rich.



Know the truth is you don't know that because it's never been tried. It's just any amount of deregulation is ba-a-a-ad
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Libertarianism issues are in my mind worse than Communism.

Including a weak military & weak border security.
Makes Libertarianism easily infiltrate by foreigners.

Other issues include legalization of drugs.

Massive pollution.

Extreme lack of education for the masses.

Extreme economic inequality.

Mininal police thus more crime.

Capitalist monopolies which behave like Communist monopoly.

In cutting corners, creating junk & jacking up prices.
 
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