Yes all of them.
What sets them apart? Be specific.
If they voted republican they are responsible.
Moderate dems and any other political name dodge is responsible as well.
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Conservatives killed more Americans in last 4 weeks than AQ did last 19 years
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Yes all of them.
What sets them apart? Be specific.
If they voted republican they are responsible.
Moderate dems and any other political name dodge is responsible as well.
Show me the post where I defended (and "elevated") "the people."
That is literally what BoThSiDeS is.
You elevated this by pretending that BoTh SiDeS aRe ThE sAmE!
Yet, I can't find any instance under Obama of shutting down the economy because of a virus...and there were at least 3 during Obama.
It is very ironic for you to call someone a fascist when you want to take away 1st Amendment freedom of expression and want to assault or kill people because of their political beliefs.
Yes, Flash, we know you love Nazis and want to hug them because Nazis don't threaten mediocre white men.
Remember your BoThSiDeS as you sit in your home for the next few weeks (and probably much longer).
We aren't even at the peak of this thing yet.
If you voted for, coddled, supported, defended, protected Trump at any point over the last 4 years, then you bear the responsibility of this.
I don't hold Trump responsible because this was always expected of him. We were warned over and over and over that he would be a disaster in a time of crisis.
BURN THE LIFEBOATS.
If you ever supported the republican party......you are responsible. They have been this way long before dump.
They were not referring to his "opinion" but his actions.
Flash, his opinions are actions. That was the argument the DOJ made in court, and the argument his attorneys made during the impeachment trial. The President's word is law. The President is the law. It's literally what Dershowitz said. Why weren't you paying attention? Too busy with your head up your own ass, I guess. Or up Trump's.
Yes all of them.
What sets them apart? Be specific.
If they voted republican they are responsible.
Moderate dems and any other political name dodge is responsible as well.
Gotta go with TTQ here...they need to be forced to own their poor choice in 2016.
If you ever supported the republican party......you are responsible. They have been this way long before dump.
Yup. Since at least 1964, likely longer.
Ike was the last great Republican President, and Teddy Roosevelt was the last great one before him.
You have to go back to 1960 to find the last time a GOP President didn't leave behind a flaming wreck.
You refusing to accept that primaries have already been postponed and the GOP on record as opposing mail-in balloting doesn't mean I've failed to make the case, it means you've failed to consider the facts presented before you.
Defending my position requires no preparation when I am challenging a wild claim accompanies by no evidence.
Your "so-called" evidence of a conspiracy to cancel the election is based on:
1. Canceling some primaries. Not unusual because of the health situation. Several primaries were automatically cancelled due to rules concerning lack of competition.
2. Trump said he opposed mail-in ballots.
From one understandable action and one opinion, you conclude he is going to cancel the election. Anyone can recognize the lack of logic in such a conclusion unless they are just trying to create a discussion involving a scare tactic like those same claims about canceling the election in 1972, 2008 and 20016.
Could Trump Try to Cancel the 2020 Election?
People thought Nixon would do the same in 1970. It was bunk, but there’s a reason the rumors swirled.
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2020/03/18/could-trump-try-to-cancel-the-2020-election-134349
"It is very unlikely that Trump could get away with postponing the November elections; who knows if he even wants to try. But as the Nixon example shows, that doesn’t mean we won’t all be talking about this as a live possibility as our crisis worsens. Presidents who make a show of flouting norms and arrogating power shouldn’t be surprised when large portions of the population assumes that when the crunch comes, they’ll do more of the same."
Gotta go with TTQ here...they need to be forced to own their poor choice in 2016.
They do not have good judgement yet we cater to them as if their lives are the only ones that matter.
"Middle america" has fumbled too many times. We need to stop putting the ball in their hands.
Defending my position requires no preparation when I am challenging a wild claim accompanies by no evidence.
Again, you refusing to confront evidence doesn't mean evidence hasn't been presented. It means you've avoided it because it is inconvenient for your argument.
1. Canceling some primaries. Not unusual because of the health situation. Several primaries were automatically cancelled due to rules concerning lack of competition.
Not unusual?? Yes, canceling primaries because of COVID is highly unusual. And no, primaries weren't automatically cancelled. The GOP cancelled some of theirs to protect Trump. Primaries don't get "automatically cancelled"; they are only cancelled by the party or state in which they are happening. The GOP cancelled several primaries before the Outbreak. So they've already cancelled some. The precedent has been set.
2. Drumpf said he opposed mail-in ballots.
Not just Trump, but several GOPers including the GA State House Speaker and Conservative Republican, David Ralston. Also, Fox News.
From one understandable action and one opinion, you conclude he is going to cancel the election.
Understandable?
Huh?
Several GOP primaries were cancelled even before COVID, which is not "usual" by any stretch. And only some of the primaries have been postponed. But as I said, the precedent for doing so has been set, and the GOP has made it such that any election interference is OK by acquitting Trump (with your support).
"It is very unlikely that Drumpf could get away with postponing the November elections; who knows if he even wants to try. But as the Nixon example shows, that doesn’t mean we won’t all be talking about this as a live possibility as our crisis worsens. Presidents who make a show of flouting norms and arrogating power shouldn’t be surprised when large portions of the population assumes that when the crunch comes, they’ll do more of the same."
These are extraordinary times, and nothing happening now is normal.
I don't see why anyone would oppose ail-in balloting to protect voters from COVID unless you didn't want them to vote at all.
By opposing mail-in voting, Trump and the GOP are saying you should take your life in your own hands just to exercise the franchise of voting.
"Vote and die" is the message sent. That's a consideration of theirs that you aren't prepared to accept because you still think these have good intentions, even after the last 4 years and the last 4 weeks in particular.
They do not have good judgement yet we cater to them as if their lives are the only ones that matter.
"Middle america" has fumbled too many times. We need to stop putting the ball in their hands.
Agreed.
Mediocre white men don't need champions anymore.
They do not have good judgement yet we cater to them as if their lives are the only ones that matter.
"Middle america" has fumbled too many times. We need to stop putting the ball in their hands.
We need to stop federally funding them and let them wither on the vine...finally!
Why the fuck are you saying we don't know if it will be necessary when Dr. Fauci and the CDC said COVID will come back in the Fall???
I'm just trying to be optimistic. Dr. Fauci also said:
the U.S. will be able to better handle an outbreak in the fall due to the ability to test, isolate and contact trace.
by fall treatments for the coronavirus will hopefully be ready for use.
if another outbreak were to occur, things “are going to be very, very different.”
Regardless of whether it is a problem in the fall that is still no evidence of anyone cancelling any elections unless we are trying to promote a story that will be believed by some of the conspiracy nuts and those on the left
They do not have good judgement yet we cater to them as if their lives are the only ones that matter.
"Middle america" has fumbled too many times. We need to stop putting the ball in their hands.
Hey - remember back in February when Adam Schiff said that the country will stand to lose "A LOT" if Trump isn't removed?
Flash thinks Schiff was just being dramatic, even as we have to order bodybags from Canada because BoThSiDeS!
Agreed.
Mediocre white men don't need champions anymore.
Mediocre is way to kind. These are POS. These mother f*****s are trying to kill the USPS as they have been trying to do for years. To kill mail in voting and to privatize.
I'm just trying to be optimistic. Dr. Fauci also said:
the U.S. will be able to better handle an outbreak in the fall due to the ability to test, isolate and contact trace.
by fall treatments for the coronavirus will hopefully be ready for use.
if another outbreak were to occur, things “are going to be very, very different.”
Regardless of whether it is a problem in the fall that is still no evidence of anyone cancelling any elections unless we are trying to promote a story that will be believed by some of the conspiracy nuts and those on the left
All of that assumes (I know how much you hate assumptions, yet you're pinning your entire post on one) Trump and the Conservatives you've been coddling will adhere to the recommendations made by Fauci and the CDC.
So far, they haven't. They can't even get their message straight on a drug that has no clinical proof of treating COVID.
Also, when was that Fauci quote? How long ago was it? Back at the beginning, wasn't it? Bet his tune has changed now. Of course, we don't know for sure because Trump stopped letting Fauci speak at the press conferences. Fauci wasn't even there yesterday (or Saturday, I can't remember which day he was there...it might have been neither day).
So to summarize...
Trump knew about this disease back in December, then spent the next couple months lying about the disease, didn't call for social distancing at the appropriate time, and called the whole thing a hoax.
Now he says he opposes mail-in ballots as his fellow Conservatives (who you think are just the same as everyone else) also oppose it, saying they will lose if it happens.
So why wouldn't they try to cancel the election?
We need to stop federally funding them and let them wither on the vine...finally!
take away their entitlements?.......no way........rolling my eyes.
We also need to stop begging for their votes. .Let them vote republican if they are not ready to move forward.
Hey - remember back in February when Adam Schiff said that the country will stand to lose "A LOT" if Trump isn't removed?
Flash thinks Schiff was just being dramatic, even as we have to order bodybags from Canada because BoThSiDeS!
Yup........but this was already known in my community. We didn't need schiff to warn us.
"middle america" wont listen to us.....let's see if they listen to schiff.
Mediocre is way to kind. These are POS. These mother f*****s are trying to kill the USPS as they have been trying to do for years. To kill mail in voting and to privatize.
Well we .....correction some... of us already know how they crippled the post office with their greedy, thieving ass's.
take away their entitlements?.......no way........rolling my eyes.
We also need to stop begging for their votes. .Let them vote republican if they are not ready to move forward.
Yes. Pandering to them makes them think their vote has more value than anyone else's. It gives them an inflated sense of self.
Can you imagine what politics would be like if those people were ignored the way every other minority (and women) are ignored now?
And no, primaries weren't automatically cancelled. The GOP cancelled some of theirs to protect Trump. Primaries don't get "automatically cancelled"; they are only cancelled by the party or state in which they are happening. The GOP cancelled several primaries before the Outbreak. So they've already cancelled some. The precedent has been set.
I think you are the one who is not prepared for our debate.
In some states the party/state must act to cancel the primary. But other states have provisions to automatically cancel the primary for lack of candidates.
"In a number of states, there are laws on the books that automatically cancel a primary election if only one candidate appears on the ballot. That was a significant contributor to the total number of cancellations in both of the 21st century cycles when an incumbent was seeking renomination. They accounted for a third of the cancellations on the Republican side in 2004 and almost half of them in the Democratic process in 2012."
http://centerforpolitics.org/crysta...ellations-through-the-lens-of-recent-history/
Cancelling primaries this year was understandable when you consider businesses were closed, crowds limited in size, and individuals staying home.
Again, you refusing to confront evidence doesn't mean evidence hasn't been presented. It means you've avoided it because it is inconvenient for your argument.
My only argument is that we are not cancelling the 2020 election.
You presented no evidence about the election, only stating that we cancelled primaries and Trump opposes mail-in ballots. There is no evidence that relates to the election without a big stretch of the imagination.
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