Conservatives killed more Americans in last 4 weeks than AQ did last 19 years
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That is a big "IF" and is not evidence anybody is canceling the election.
States are still free to hold their elections and use mail-in ballots if the choose. The House is still there to certify the states' electoral votes and declare the winner.
Trump's opinion about mail-in ballots is not the basis for anything.
"Don't worry David Abraham Liebgott, no one is canceling the Wiemar elections after the Reichstag Fire"
-Flash's equivalent in Weimar Germany, circa 1933
If you voted for, coddled, supported, defended, protected Trump at any point over the last 4 years, then you bear the responsibility of this.
I don't hold Trump responsible because this was always expected of him. We were warned over and over and over that he would be a disaster in a time of crisis.
BURN THE LIFEBOATS.
Sure it is, Flash.
Postponing primaries is step 1, while opposing mail-in voting is step 2.
And the disease will not go away by November. It won't go away until there's a vaccine. The earliest that seems possible is 2021. Again, this is what Fauci and the CDC have said.
So I'd love to know how and why you think things will be back to normal in 7 months, when all the experts (who you aren't listening to) are saying that there will be a resurgence in the Fall? That until there's a vaccine, we need to keep social distancing policies in place. We just crossed the 10,000 dead mark, and it only took a handful of days to get there from 1,000 deaths.
Flash, these are extraordinary times, and state executives are invoking things that they aren't Constitutionally allowed to do. They're being given a pass because of poor leadership from the top that Conservatives voted for, and that you protected and equated with legitimate beliefs.
If states already have mail-in voting, then what is the harm in sending every registered voter a mail-in ballot and conducting the election that way?
He is POTUS and according to the arguments the Justice Department made in court, is unaccountable and his opinion is law.
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It's hard to imagine anyone with an IQ higher than 10 thinking that a TV game show host could handle a crisis of this magnitude. Yet here we are, surrounded by nutters who *still* believe that he's da bomb.
Morons abide.
Or the BoThSiDeRiStS who look at the last four years and say "bOtH sIdEs ArE tHe SaMe!" as they sit confined to their homes, with their representatives going on record saying they oppose mail-in ballots and want you to take your life (and everyone else's) in your hands by simply voting in person.
That's why I think Conservatives deliberately dismissed social distancing...they want us all confined to our homes and afraid to vote for fear of spreading a fatal disease.
Wild speculation on your part with 0 evidence. Trump did not postpone the primaries. Opposing mail-in voting has no relevance other than his opinion. Again, no connection to any attempt to cancel anything.
Not at the state/county level that administer elections.
I don't remember where it said his opinion is law.
You are completely diverting from showing any evidence of canceling an election other than listing some facts and making a huge jump of logic.
Do you really believe that stuff or is it just an anti-Trump scare-tactic?
1) States have already postponed primaries.
2) Trump and the GOP are on record opposing mail-in voting.
So the evidence is there, Flash, you're just too scared to confront it. The reason why is obvious; you don't think the choices you make will result in consequences for you. But I simply ask you to re-evaluate that position in you current situation, sitting at home under orders while 10M+ people lose their jobs, the economy enters into a recession (one it was headed for anyway), and 10,000+ people have died because of the actions taken by the people you've defended and elevated by insisting their rabid fascism is just BoThSiDeS!
Maybe...but the precedent has now been set.
He is running for President. So it's entirely relevant. And we already know from the impeachment trial that Conservatives think the President's opinion is law.
If people can't go to the polls because doing so will spread COVID, how are people supposed to vote?
Oh foolish boy, you think that the GOP will stop at letting Trump rig the 2020 election?
I never claimed there would be any harm. But we don't know if it will be necessary and states will have to change their laws providing for it.
Does Voting by Mail Increase Participation? Using Matching to Analyze a Natural Experiment
"Drawing on data from a large sample of California counties in two general elections, we find that voting by mail does not deliver on the promise of greater participation in general elections. In fact, voters who are assigned to vote by mail turn out at lower rates than those who are sent to a polling place. Analysis of a sample of local special elections, by contrast, indicates that voting by mail can increase turnout in these otherwise low-participation contests."
https://www.cambridge.org/core/jour...l-experiment/D502CA1057D8EC73091E5ACE9E575994
OK, couple things here...
You don't remember Trump's attorneys using Nixon's defense during the impeachment hearings?
Dershowitz literally made that argument on the floor of Senate.
Where the fuck were you during that? NOT PAYING ATTENTION, OF COURSE.
You refusing to accept that primaries have already been postponed and the GOP on record as opposing mail-in balloting doesn't mean I've failed to make the case, it means you've failed to consider the facts presented before you.
You know that doing so would mean I would extend that to pretty much every topic we debate here, and you simply aren't prepared to defend your positions.
So instead you just dismiss them as insufficient according to the ad hoc standard you just invented.
What you traffic in is sophistry...all day, every day. It's the only way you know how to live your life.
Show me the post where I defended (and "elevated") "the people."
It is very ironic for you to call someone a fascist when you want to take away 1st Amendment freedom of expression and want to assault or kill people because of their political beliefs.
They were not referring to his "opinion" but his actions.
Well, let's see...
He kidnapped children, put some in concentration camps, sent other kidnapped kids to who-knows-where, he's called Nazis "very fine people", he's destroyed the 6-year period of prosperity and growth Obama created, he lied about COVID, he very nearly got us into war with Iran, he exploded the deficit, he's cost 10M people their jobs and health care, he solicited election interference in 2016, and tried to extort a different country to interfere in 2020.
So is it really a stretch to say he views the 2020 election as a threat to his personal safety, so he wants to cancel it by forcing people into a Mexican Standoff with COVID; either risk spreading the disease and another social distancing order, or risk 4 more years of this?
Why the fuck are you saying we don't know if it will be necessary when Dr. Fauci and the CDC said COVID will come back in the Fall???
The reason you are saying that is because you aren't listening to the experts.
Obviously because you think your judgment and instincts are sound and better than theirs, or you're just lazy. I think it's the latter.
GREAT! So then there's no reason for Conservatives to oppose it!
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