Conservatives killed more Americans in last 4 weeks than AQ did last 19 years

[LV426]

Because he knows it is not a possibility. It would be political suicide--lead to impeachment and conviction, etc.

He's already been impeached...so why would the Republicans remove him for trying to cancel the election when they wouldn't remove him for trying to rig it?

 

[LV426]

I don't think Trump and his supporters think he is going to lose. His approval rating is an all-time high (45.4%)["538"] and his numbers vs Democrats has narrowed. As long as they think they can win they are not going to consider anything stupid

They thought they were going to win in 2018, but that didn't stop them from trying to rig that election.

Trump literally said on TV last week that he opposes mail in balloting because it would lead to higher turnout.

Then David Ralston, the GOP House Speaker here in GA, said the exact same thing.

 

[LV426]

I have been reading about something I have noticed on JPP and other partisans. They all very optimistic about the chances their side will win. Both Democrats and Republicans thought they would gain seats in 2018. Now they are both convinced they will win in 2020.

Why would Republicans win an election after killing over 10,000 Americans (so far) with their lies?

 

[LV426]

I found studies which said the most committed partisans (generally the best informed) are the most uninformed about the opposition. Liberals give an hugely exaggerated guess at the number of Republicans who make over $250,000 and Republicans think a much higher percentage of Democrats are gay than there actually are (plus some additional descriptions).

This has nothing to do with Trump and the Conservatives trying to cancel the election.

They were already caught trying to rig it, and Conservatives let it go unpunished.

So if they didn't remove him for trying to rig the 2020 election, why would they remove him for trying to cancel it? Why wouldn't they try to help him? They've already done so once.

 

[Earl]

Exonerated is forever.

 

[Earl]

Page 173 V I: Ultimately, the investigation did not establish that the Campaign coordinated or conspired with the Russian government in its election-interference activities.

 

[Flash]

What kind of evidence?

Would something like withholding vital supplies to certain states, while providing more than what was requested to others, be an indication of deliberately causing this pandemic to spread?

Anything showing somebody is considering canceling the election.

Withholding supplies is incompetence or something else. Trump has a strong incentive to end the spread as soon as possible so he can take credit for its end. If he wanted things worse he would not have approved the stimulus; instead, he wants to give money to everybody in an election year. These are efforts to win an election, not cancel it.

This canceling an election thing is just speculation on your part, correct?

 

[Micawber]

Conservative lies are directly responsible for the mounting death count. Directly. All of them should be held liable for this. There should be prosecutions because they knowingly and deliberately spread misinformation that led to deaths. Manslaughter at the very leasst.

Yes, under the federal tort claims act Trump will be rendered actually bankrupt as opposed to scam asset protection shed debt by screwing honest vendors and employees style bankrupt.

Scumbag Trump!

 

[LV426]

Anything showing somebody is considering canceling the election.

So OK, so the bar you're setting now (that you will move later) is evidence of someone considering cancelling the election.

Well, I would take opposition to mail-in balloting as a consideration to cancel the election.

5 states and all deployed service members (not to mention all Americans abroad and every absentee voter) already do mail-in balloting.

So opposing mail-in balloting for an election means...what?

 

[Grokmaster]

And that includes 9/11.

Conservative lies about COVID-19 have killed 9,600 Americans so far.

That's more than the number of Americans killed by Al Qaeda on 9/11 (2,977) and the 19 years of War in Afghanistan (2,400) COMBINED.

After today, Conservative lies about COVID-19 will have killed more Americans than the Iraq War, Afghan War, and 9/11 COMBINED.

Every single Conservative is responsible.

WHAT WERE THE TREASON-O-CRATS DOING ON JAN.31, WHEN THE PRESIDENT DECLARED THE CHINESE TRAVEL BAN?


CALLING HIM A "XENOPHOBE", AND DECRYING THEIR OWN SHAM "IMPEACHMENT".

WHAT WERE THEY DOING WHEN HE MENTIONED THE CORONAVIRUS AGAIN AT THE STATE OF THE UNION??


DO I NEED TO REMIND YOUR LYING, PUNK ASS???

 

[Flash]

This has nothing to do with Trump and the Conservatives trying to cancel the election.

They were already caught trying to rig it, and Conservatives let it go unpunished.

So if they didn't remove him for trying to rig the 2020 election, why would they remove him for trying to cancel it? Why wouldn't they try to help him? They've already done so once.

Because the first called for some measure of judgment and determination if it was illegal. There is no question about canceling an election. If things are bad enough I'm sure some Republicans will support him for doing so, but it would be very unpopular and out of the question.

Elections are conducted by states and the president has no authority to stop them from holding those elections.

 

[LV426]

Withholding supplies is incompetence or something else. Trump has a strong incentive to end the spread as soon as possible so he can take credit for its end. If he wanted things worse he would not have approved the stimulus; instead, he wants to give money to everybody in an election year. These are efforts to win an election, not cancel it.

LMAO that you think a $1,200 one-time check is a vote buy.

But let's take that assumption through to its conclusion...

So if Trump wants the election to happen, he will support a one-time check (that may or may not even be distributed) that is less than the average 1-bedroom rent in this country, and nothing else?

Do you honestly, really believe that $1,200 check is going to solve the economic problems we are facing?

This canceling an election thing is just speculation on your part, correct?

1. They've already postponed several primaries
2. The GOP opposes mail-in balloting because high turnout "would be devastating to Conservatives"
3. Trump is withholding vital supplies to states with Democratic governors that he knows he won't win.
4. They already let Trump get away with trying to rig the election via Ukraine

So...you tell me where that path leads....

 

[LV426]

Because the first called for some measure of judgment and determination if it was illegal.

And several Republicans said what Trump did was wrong, but they let him do it anyway.

So since they didn't stop him from trying to rig the election, why would they stop him from trying to cancel it?

 

[LV426]

There is no question about canceling an election.

So...

1) Since we know COVID-19 is extremely contagious...
2) And we know that going to a voting booth is risky given asymptomatic carriers...
3) And we know that the GOP and Trump opposes mail-in balloting...
4) Then how can you have an election if people can't go to the polls because of a pandemic they could catch and spread to vulnerable people?

 

[Grokmaster]

And several Republicans said what Trump did was wrong, but they let him do it anyway.

So since they didn't stop him from trying to rig the election, why would they stop him from trying to cancel it?

 

[LV426]

Elections are conducted by states and the president has no authority to stop them from holding those elections.

The president had no authority to extort Ukraine into digging up dirt on his political opponents, but that happened anyway....

 

[Flash]

LMAO that you think a $1,200 one-time check is a vote buy.

But let's take that assumption through to its conclusion...

So if Trump wants the election to happen, he will support a one-time check (that may or may not even be distributed) that is less than the average 1-bedroom rent in this country, and nothing else?

Do you honestly, really believe that $1,200 check is going to solve the economic problems we are facing?

I didn't say it would solve anything. But many people are going to get extended unemployment if they lose their jobs plus help with paying some bills. So, a $2,400 check to a married couple would be a nice benefit. And for those who have not lost their jobs it would be free money. A married couple who both have their jobs and get $2,400 is not going to hurt Trump at election time, especially if they are already a supporter but do not vote regularly.

It might not have any effect, but if I wanted to crash the economy in order to cancel an election I would not be giving money away. Also, why would he want to stay in office that bad with his income and property values crashing?

 

[LV426]

I didn't say it would solve anything. But many people are going to get extended unemployment if they lose their jobs plus help with paying some bills.

So...

If you have no job because of COVID...

You aren't taking in a paycheck...

Which means a one-time check for $1,200 (which could take months before ending up in your mailbox) isn't going to help pay bills since this thing will last thanks to the poor response...

So how is this check any indication that Trump wants the election to happen?

 

[Earl]

WHAT WERE THE TREASON-O-CRATS DOING ON JAN.31, WHEN THE PRESIDENT DECLARED THE CHINESE TRAVEL BAN?


CALLING HIM A "XENOPHOBE", AND DECRYING THEIR OWN SHAM "IMPEACHMENT".

WHAT WERE THEY DOING WHEN HE MENTIONED THE CORONAVIRUS AGAIN AT THE STATE OF THE UNION??


DO I NEED TO REMIND YOUR LYING, PUNK ASS???

Indeed.

Thanks, Grok. Indeed

 

[Flash]

The president had no authority to extort Ukraine into digging up dirt on his political opponents, but that happened anyway....

All he did was make a phone call. How is he going to force states to stop holding elections? The states/parties chose to postpone primaries, not the president.