Why Claims of Russian Meddling Should Be Questioned

Frank Apisa said:
Wow...the fact that the "Dear Leader" you people all support appears to love Vlad Putin...really seems to be bothering you a lot.

Must be hard on the conscience to have to pretend as hard as you guys are doing for the Abomination.

Oh, well. It does have humor value...and for that, those of us watching this shit-show are grateful.

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Helsinki pretty much sealed the deal w/respect to Putin having his puppet right where he needs him.
 
Althea said:
Lies
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Yes, Snowflake, you lie often.

“Trump admin approves new sale of anti-tank weapons to ...abcnews.go.com › Politics › story
Oct 1, 2019 - The Trump administration has approved the $39M sale of defensive lethal weapons to Ukraine, according ... U.S. arms sales to Ukraine have become embroiled in a controversy over President Donald Trump's dealings with Ukraine, after ... Ukraine has been fighting Russian-armed and led separatists in its ...
 
Darth Omar said:
But we can’t believe Trump, right lol?
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It is a dangerous thing to do...to "believe" Trump. But you asked a question...and I gave you the answer. Obviously the answer bothered you.

I can understand that!


What *actions* has Trump taken that have aided Putin? Be specific.
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Specifically, Trump often opens his mouth and speaks. Whenever he does that...he is aiding Putin.

Hope that was specific enough for you.
 
CNSNews.com) – The fact that President Trump – unlike his predecessor – sent lethal military aid to Ukraine in the face of Russia’s aggression is “the real story that’s been lost in all this,” National Security Advisor Robert O’Brien said Sunday, in reference to Democrats’ drive to impeach the president.

Appearing on CBS’s “Face the Nation,” O’Brien recalled visiting Ukraine as an election monitor in 2014 and being asked by Ukrainians why “the arsenal of democracy” would not provide their country with military aid.

The election came amid Russian military intervention in support of separatist rebels in eastern Ukraine, and months after President Vladimir Putin had annexed the country’s strategic Crimea peninsula.

“I was there as part of a bipartisan election observation mission and I had young Ukrainian soldiers and young Ukrainians come up to me and say, ‘Why won’t the U.S., the arsenal of democracy, send us lethal aid? You’re sending us *blankets* and MREs. Why won’t President Obama send us military aid?’”

(MREs are pre-packaged military meals, or “meals, ready-to-eat.”)
 
Good grief.

Some on the far left have lost more than a few feet on their fast ball...more like 60’5.”

A one inch roll on the ground to the plate.
 
Darth Omar said:
I may not agree with much of Tulsi’s policy initiatives but she has more gonads than anyone on either side of the aisle—including Trump.
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she nailed it
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It is now clear that the mainstream corporate media and the warmongering political establishment are seeking to do two things:

Create enough suspicion around Sanders, by falsely tarnishing him as a puppet of Russia, that he loses the election.

Or, at the very least, if Bernie wins the Democratic nomination, force him to engage in inflammatory anti-Russia rhetoric and perpetuate the New Cold War and nuclear arms race, which are existential threats to our country and the world.

That strategy worked very well with Trump. Trump has spent his entire presidency trying to "prove" to the media that he is not Putin's puppet by carrying out extremely aggressive policies that have brought us closer to nuclear war with Russia than we have been in decades.
 
By March 2015, the US had committed more than $120 million in security assistance for Ukraine and had pledged an additional $75 million worth of equipment including UAVs, counter-mortar radars, night vision devices and medical supplies, according to the Pentagon's Defense Security Cooperation Agency.
That assistance also included some 230 armored Humvee vehicles. CNN
 
Althea said:
We'll find out when trump is ousted from office in November, and he cannot hide his tax returns.
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His tax returns are none of your business, Snowflake.

He submitted his required Federsl Financial Report.

His tax lawyers and the IRS get to see them. You don’t.

We will have to scrape you off the ceiling when President Trump is re-elected in Nov.
 
Darth Omar said:
That’s cute, Frank lol.

What *actual facts* do you have to support the theory that Trump loves Putin?
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none.
The Dems need to cling to Russiaphobia to discredit Trump, even though Trump has hit Russia hard
with sanctions and military aid to Ukraine.

It's all they have to discredit Trump, which is all they are interested in - not detente'
 
Micawber said:
I do question your meddling. Why favor Trump? Why do you want to destroy the USA?
Don't you want an ally and not an enemy? It's stupid. You purchase our enduring enmity
by acts of aggression. So, yes, gnat, I question you. You are part of the Russian meddling.
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WTF are you yammering about?
 
Fact check, it appears the crisi in Ukraine began in 2014, and nearing the end of Obama's second term he was reassessing
the supply of lethal aid to Ukraine. Therefore it appears that had Obama continued in office a third term, it is likely he would
have provided the same types and amounts of aid to Ukraine as Trump has.

I know this sober analysis does not feed your false narrative, but...suck and egg, Repugnant liars.

See below story by PBS

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/obama-reconsider-providing-lethal-aid-ukraine
 
“Army Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman, a main accuser in the Democrats’ impeachment drive, wrongly credited President Obama for sending advanced anti-tank weapons to Ukraine when President Trump was the first.
The claim from Col. Vindman, the White House National Security Council staff expert on Ukraine, came in closed-door testimony for which the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence released a transcript.
Mr. Obama talked internally about sending lethal aid but did not.”
Washington times.com
 
Micawber said:
Fact check, it appears the crisi in Ukraine began in 2014, and nearing the end of Obama's second term he was reassessing
the supply of lethal aid to Ukraine. Therefore it appears that had Obama continued in office a third term, it is likely he would
have provided the same types and amounts of aid to Ukraine as Trump has.

I know this sober analysis does not feed your false narrative, but...suck and egg, Repugnant liars.

See below story by PBS

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/obama-reconsider-providing-lethal-aid-ukraine
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HA HA HA.. What would Obama do 3rd term?? who the fuck cares!

If Obama had reigned in Hillary's/Kerry's State dept and not fomented revolution
during the Euromaidan we wouldn't have even had the Crimea annexations .

Putin annexed Crimea because Poroshenko threatened the lease on Sevastopol
 
“Third term.”

“Reassessing.”

President Trump acted, Obama “reassessed.”

The far left loons need an abundance of help.
 
Frank Apisa said:
It is a dangerous thing to do...to "believe" Trump. But you asked a question...and I gave you the answer. Obviously the answer bothered you.

I can understand that!

Specifically, Trump often opens his mouth and speaks. Whenever he does that...he is aiding Putin.

Hope that was specific enough for you.
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How, exactly, is Trump helping Putin by opening his mouth?

You also have a contradiction to deal with: why should Putin believe Trump’s words when you don’t believe them yourself?

Especially, when all of Trump’s *actions* hurt Putin. It just doesn’t add up, Frank.
 
Darth Omar said:
How, exactly, is Trump helping Putin by opening his mouth?
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Because when Trump opens his mouth...words come out. Anything he says helps Putin. He is Putin's puppet. The fact that he is Putin's puppet...is the reason Putin wanted him elected.

You also have a contradiction to deal with: why should Putin believe Trump’s words when you don’t believe them yourself?
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Putin is not counting on anything but for Trump to be Trump. Putin wants America to be hurt and to be as weak as possible. Supporting Trump is the best way to get what he is aiming for.

I know, I know. You cannot see it. Putin is counting on people like you also.

Especially, when all of Trump’s *actions* hurt Putin. It just doesn’t add up, Frank.
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EVERYTHING Trump does...helps Putin.

EVERYTHING you Trump supporters do in defense of Trump...

...HELPS PUTIN.
 
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