What is about Socialism that gets Democrats excited?

Flash said:
Which we had to pay for with higher prices and tariffs imposed on our exports.
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Better than penalizing people for having a job.

And at least you had a choice to NOT buy those imports, or NOT sell your goods overseas. :dunno:

Anyway, how can the American worker compete with foreign low wage workers, Einstein?
 
Bigdog said:
It's NOT socialism.

Before Dem Socialists started confiscating Worker's Wages, our gov't was financed by tariffs paid to us by foreigners.
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Sorry, government welfare.

I agree it is not socialism since agriculture is not a government owned industry, but the meaning of socialism seems to have switched from government ownership of the means of production and distribution to government programs conservatives don't like but liberals do.
 
Flash said:
At the price of a lower standard of living. Our products were too expensive to export and for lower income Americans.
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Whose standard of living has been sacrificed as a result? I would like to see some facts; not hyperbole, assumptions or wild eyed speculation.
 
Bigdog said:
Better than penalizing people for having a job.

And at least you had a choice to NOT buy those imports, or NOT sell your goods overseas. :dunno:

Anyway, how can the American worker compete with foreign low wage workers, Einstein?
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They can't. That is the economic principle of comparative advantage. Nations with low skill and low pay do the unskilled labor at cheaper prices for American consumers. They put the i-phones together while Americans design and sell them. That provides high paying jobs for Americans and lower price products.
 
Flash said:
They can't. That is the economic principle of comparative advantage. Nations with low skill and low pay do the unskilled labor at cheaper prices for American consumers. They put the i-phones together while Americans design and sell them. That provides high paying jobs for Americans and lower price products.
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You know that is a flawed and classist argument. :palm:
 
Truth Detector said:
Whose standard of living has been sacrificed as a result? I would like to see some facts; not hyperbole, assumptions or wild eyed speculation.
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Everyone. The prices of cars, appliances, electronics were made by high-income workers selling for high prices limiting what they could afford to buy. Those products are too expensive to export limiting the market.

That is what the president is trying to accomplish--create a fair free trade economy; otherwise, he would keep those tariffs if he thought they worked well. It helped a few but hurt many (thus the reason for the farm subsidies).
 
Bigdog said:
You know that is a flawed and classist argument. :palm:
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Classist? My, aren't we PC. It is not classist because those young women working for low wages are making more than their fisherman fathers will ever make. That makes both sides better off.
 
Flash said:
Everyone. The prices of cars, appliances, electronics were made by high-income workers selling for high prices limiting what they could afford to buy. Those products are too expensive to export limiting the market.

That is what the president is trying to accomplish--create a fair free trade economy; otherwise, he would keep those tariffs if he thought they worked well. It helped a few but hurt many (thus the reason for the farm subsidies).
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I am sorry; but "because you say so" doesn't cut it. :rolleyes:
 
Flash said:
Classist? My, aren't we PC. It is not classist because those young women working for low wages are making more than their fisherman fathers will ever make. That makes both sides better off.
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Getting maimed working in sweat shops alongside children, polluting their own air and water.

I thought you would approve of a "green" subsistence living, lifestyle like small independent fisherman.
 
LV426 said:
No like in Canada and Germany.

And Israel.

And South Korea.

And Holland.

And Belgium.

And Japan.

And Australia.

And New Zealand.

And Portugal.

And Luxembourg.

And Sweden.

And Switzerland.

And Norway.

And Denmark.

And Finland.

And Austria.

And Scotland.

And France.

And Spain.

Even Mexico has single payer health care.
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Pretty much all of the most developed nations have the stuff besides us.
 
The fact that I would have you and all Republicans murdered in my first great round of purges announced as plenipotentate at the US politburo communist party duma.
 
Bigdog said:
Getting maimed working in sweat shops alongside children, polluting their own air and water.

I thought you would approve of a "green" subsistence living, lifestyle like small independent fisherman.
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Not if I was poor and depleting the Oceans. Most nations will eventually improve working conditions and pollution like others going through an industrialization phase.
 
Flash said:
Not if I was poor and depleting the Oceans. Most nations will eventually improve working conditions and pollution like others going through an industrialization phase.
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The guy fishing in a rowboat is not the problem. So lame. :palm:

So basically, you're advocating for capitalism as a solution for this hypothetical 3rd world woman of color. Thanks. :palm:
 
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