Why does Iran get a pass?

Sure Iran has their weird ass Theocratic government but we just keep pushing their people who fucking hate their government into their ever Allah loving arms because we are 'got dammed' puppets of Saudi Arabia. Ain't no one here know shit about the byzantine history of the Middle East nor do they care, most dumb shits think they are these solid nation states that have existed as long as man. lol, alright sure.
epic rant, if incorrect. I can think of a few here that understand the sects of Islam, the basics tenants etc.

Realpolitik says support KSA if for no other reason than Iranian hegemony (much less a state sponsor of terrorism)
 
Why does Iran get a pass for their escalation antics during the past three years? Shooting our drone down, hijacking ships, killing contractors, attacking our embassy, buzzing our ships and aircraft, etc? Why do libs always side with our enemies? Soleimani has verifiably been responsible for the killing of at least 600 Americans, why do libs give him a pass for that? Of course, we know why, but I want to hear libs say it. In what alternate universe is this escalation Trump's fault? Should we just stand by and let Iran murder Americans?

Trump actually showed a lot of restraint when the Iranians shot down our drone. Many of the libs on here are rooting for American deaths if it embarrasses Trump. They are treasonous scum.
 
He was a Saudi citizen. Two of his kids are American citizens.

I don't particularly care when it's not an American citizen involved.

He was based in America and had real insider information on the Saudis. He was a valuable journalist. Khashoggi was a good read and gave real important information and had connections.
You don't care?
 
He was based in America and had real insider information on the Saudis. He was a valuable journalist. Khashoggi was a good read and gave real important information and had connections.
You don't care?

If he was that important, why didn't we protect him? If someone is truly important on that level, we take proper measures for that.
 
Soleimani has verifiably been responsible for the killing of AT LEAST 600 Americans. What's the number required, in your mind, before we can justifiably take out someone like him?

You and the George Dumbya Bush Defense Department made copious amounts of dubious claims about Saddam and Iraq which later turned out to be false, exaggerated, or even willful fabrications.

Make the case for why your judgement and claims can be trusted now.
 
Why does Iran get a pass for their escalation antics during the past three years? Shooting our drone down, hijacking ships, killing contractors, attacking our embassy, buzzing our ships and aircraft, etc? Why do libs always side with our enemies? Soleimani has verifiably been responsible for the killing of at least 600 Americans, why do libs give him a pass for that? Of course, we know why, but I want to hear libs say it. In what alternate universe is this escalation Trump's fault? Should we just stand by and let Iran murder Americans?

Indeed....Trump accomplished more in 2 strikes than BHO did in 2800 drone attacks. Why? Trump hit the correct targets.....the BLACK OP terrorist leaders.... while BHO attacked those that helped the Muslim Brotherhood to nation build on the US taxpayer's dime and military. But the LEFT is more upset about taking out 2 terrorists than the 1000s of people BHO killed with 2800 drone strikes? THE DEEP STATE and its supporters....the DNC and MEDIA....need continued wars and nation building in order to continue to ROB the AMRICAN TAX PAYERS with their aid money....that has never been subject to ACCOUNTING.

Its not rocket science. Welcome to the Q. :bigthink:
 
Why does Iran get a pass for their escalation antics during the past three years? Shooting our drone down, hijacking ships, killing contractors, attacking our embassy, buzzing our ships and aircraft, etc? Why do libs always side with our enemies? Soleimani has verifiably been responsible for the killing of at least 600 Americans, why do libs give him a pass for that? Of course, we know why, but I want to hear libs say it. In what alternate universe is this escalation Trump's fault? Should we just stand by and let Iran murder Americans?

WHAT 600 Americans did Soleimani kill? Where? When? How? Someone like Stephen Miller or Donald Trump pulled this figure out of his ass.

As for buzzing ships, Iran has a right to protect it's own borders, airways, and waterways. When the US Military ships and planes encroach into their waterways and airspace, Iran will respond by buzzing them with their own planes as a warning. The same thing the US would do in protecting our own airspace and flyspace.

The same thing goes for shooting down drones used for spying. If they violate airspace- they get shot down- That's the way it works. Spy- but of you get caught- you get shot down. BTW, our military will always publicly deny we were spying in other countries flyspace, That was the whole purpose of the drone, TO SPY IN OTHER COUNTRIES AIRSPACE AND SURGICALLY Hit ENEMY TARGETS.

WHAT CONTRACTORS DID HE KILL? WHEN? Where? How? WHY? WHo? You have names?

Iran did not attack our Embassy- It was Iraqi rebels!

Hijacking ships? Where- in Iran's waterspace? Whose ships? No American ships have been Hi-jacked.

You can't just make claims without the facts to back them up!

NOW let's see the facts or, STFU!
 
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He was based in America and had real insider information on the Saudis. He was a valuable journalist. Khashoggi was a good read and gave real important information and had connections.
You don't care?

Do you care about the thousands of Iranians that were killed by the regime in the recent protests?
 
Do you care about the thousands of Iranians that were killed by the regime in the recent protests?

Yes, just like we cared about the 4 dead in Ohio!

Our former policies with IRAN before DOnald Trump, were never intended to harm the Iranian citizens. Iranian citizens have never been considered our enemy. The US has always stood behind their opposition to their own Clerics that run the country.

BUT NOW, they have united and are shouting "Death To America" for assassinating their military leader- a 100% about face!

Not even to mention that the current US sanctions against Iran, put in place by DOnald Trump after pulling out of the IRAN deal for no real reason, have caused the deaths of thousands of Iran's citizens.

WAY TO GO DONNIE! Your hatred of Muslims is showing- as you just turned the good Iranians against us!
 
Why does Iran get a pass for their escalation antics during the past three years?

Because Trump and you nitwits pulled us out of the Iran Nuclear Agreement first, which prompted all this.

When are you going to get off your fat, lazy ass and enlist so you can fight this war?

NEVER?

Shocking.
 
You and the George Dumbya Bush Defense Department made copious amounts of dubious claims about Saddam and Iraq which later turned out to be false, exaggerated, or even willful fabrications.

Make the case for why your judgement and claims can be trusted now.

Why then did Obama sanction sulaimani in 2011? Was he lying too? This guy has been well known for decades, but go ahead keep up the willful ignorance, in support of our enemies. It's what liberals do. Guess what that makes you?
 
Why then did Obama sanction sulaimani in 2011? Was he lying too? This guy has been well known for decades, but go ahead keep up the willful ignorance, in support of our enemies. It's what liberals do. Guess what that makes you?

SANCTIONED him...didn't drone him with a missile because of bad news about Trump's loans being underwritten by Putin's bank.
 
Why then did Obama sanction sulaimani in 2011? Was he lying too? This guy has been well known for decades, but go ahead keep up the willful ignorance, in support of our enemies. It's what liberals do. Guess what that makes you?

Stop pointing at other people like a seven year old, to squirm your way out of making the case for your own words.

What I am talking about is what I believe, and what you believe. I am holding you accountable for the words that come out of your mouth, and I am accountable for my statements.


I was not duped by the propaganda leading up to the Iraq War.

You were easily duped by it. In fact, you undoubtedly helped promote the propaganda to anyone who would listen.


You claimed this Iranian dude was directly responsible for killing 600 Americans.

You also made many claims about Saddam Hussein and Iraq which later turned out to be false, exaggerated, willfully fabricated.

Post your proof, and make the case that, after the Iraq Disaster, your opinions, claims, and judgment can be trusted.
 
Qassem Soleimani Story Nobody’s Telling

https://stpaulresearch.com/2020/01/04/the-qassem-soleimani-story-nobodys-telling/
My first thought on hearing of the death of Soleimani was… Hmm… Live by the sword, die by it.

I thought back to the mid-2000s, when Soleimani’s people and high explosives killed over 600 American troops – and many more allied troops and civilians – in Iraq.

And I thought back to a couple of visits to U.S. military hospitals from some years ago. I remembered the U.S. personnel recovering from horrible wounds; not a few from Iranian ordnance.


Iran sent people, materiel and money to fight the U.S. effort. Iran turned Iraq into an anti-American front. And from his office in Tehran, the late deceased Soleimani was among the operational architects of that effort.

Soleimani had some payback coming.

In fact, I’ve been told of U.S. snipers who placed their aiming reticle on Soleimani’s eardrum but did not receive clearance to fire.

It was always just a question of when, where and if a U.S. President would give the okay.

In the 2000s I was still part of the U.S. Navy Reserve. In the early days of the Iraq war, I ran what’s called a “force protection” unit, with people deployed from the U.S. to locales “downrange,” including the Iraq theater.

Along the way, we received briefings on “improvised explosive devices” (IEDs) that were making life pure hell in Iraq.

Some IEDs were truly “improvised;” recovered battlefield weapons – artillery or mortar rounds – that were rigged with a trigger, and detonated by something as simple as a hard wire, an egg timer, garage door opener or cell phone.

Other IEDs were far more complex; shaped charges, manufactured under tight quality control in a military-grade factory, with sophisticated mechanisms for detonation.

In particular, I recall the hemispherical copper “penetrators.”
 
Iran denied everything.

The Iranians were lying, of course.

U.S. forensics analyzed the copper and explosive residue from many penetrators. Isotopic analysis “fingerprinted” the source of metal to a particular copper mine in Iran. And the explosive traced to a particular chemical factory.

There was everything but Soleimani’s direct fingerprints on the bombs.


To many, the U.S. war in Iraq may be old history.

Still, in recent years Soleimani has been quite active. He directed Iranian strategy and operations in conflicts ranging from Afghanistan to Yemen, plus Iraq, Syria and Lebanon. He oversaw the transfer of immense quantities of weapons from Iran into Iraq, Syria and Lebanon, with Israel and U.S. targets in mind.

Most recently, Soleimani backed Iraqi militia who attacked U.S. targets in Iraq, leading up to a brazen assault on the U.S. embassy in Baghdad over the New Year holiday. U.S. intelligence claims that Soleimani had even more plans for the future, to attack U.S. people and interests.

In other words, Soleimani was an active, up-front threat to U.S. people and interests across the Middle East.
 
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