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Flash said:
What libertarian policy would lead to a dictatorship?
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So-called "small government" always leads to more wealth and power being consolidated among the 1%, which they then use to bribe politicians to set regulations that help them get richer. That's why government always grows under Republicans. "Small government" leads to bigger government is there aren't regulations to protect the working-class.
Then there are those nutty Ancap Libertarians. Their politics would cause this process to happen even faster.
 
StoneByStone said:
So-called "small government" always leads to more wealth and power being consolidated among the 1%, which they then use to bribe politicians to set regulations that help them get richer. That's why government always grows under Republicans. "Small government" leads to bigger government is there aren't regulations to protect the working-class.
Then there are those nutty Ancap Libertarians. Their politics would cause this process to happen even faster.
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Government also grows under Democrats, so based on your theory Democratic and Republican policies will lead to dictatorship.

If politicians pass more regulations (to help any group) they are not libertarians.
 
Flash said:
Government also grows under Democrats, so based on your theory Democratic and Republican policies will lead to dictatorship.
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Sure, but it grows bigger and faster under Republicans. And because we have checks and balances, we've been able to keep Libertarians from advancing their policies enough to end up with a dictatorship.

If politicians pass more regulations (to help any group) they are not libertarians.
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And if a society has a government, it's not Communist. However, whenever Communism is attempted on a large scale, the society ends up with a dictatorship. It would be the same thing if we had true Libertarianism on a large scale. Sure, it wouldn't technically be Libertarian just like the Soviet Union wasn't technically Communist. But attempting these ideologies ends up with totalitarianism instead of what they set out to create.
 
zymurgy said:
libertarians laugh at all you idiots

why the fuck are you morons even allowed to vote?

you can't protect individual rights. you can't keep spending in check. you can't stop getting involved in wars and foreign entanglements.
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You are an idiot that don't know what the fuck you are even talking about you senile old fart!
 
StoneByStone said:
So-called "small government" always leads to more wealth and power being consolidated among the 1%, which they then use to bribe politicians to set regulations that help them get richer. That's why government always grows under Republicans. "Small government" leads to bigger government is there aren't regulations to protect the working-class.
Then there are those nutty Ancap Libertarians. Their politics would cause this process to happen even faster.
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You're either extremely ignorant, or a propagandist. There is no option three.
 
StoneByStone said:
And if a society has a government, it's not Communist. However, whenever Communism is attempted on a large scale, the society ends up with a dictatorship. It would be the same thing if we had true Libertarianism on a large scale. Sure, it wouldn't technically be Libertarian just like the Soviet Union wasn't technically Communist. But attempting these ideologies ends up with totalitarianism instead of what they set out to create.
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I disagree with your comparison. Name any communist nation that is a dictatorship that was not an authoritarian/dictatorship before it became communist.
Authoritarian systems are part of a nation's culture. There is no nation that was libertarian that became a dictatorship or totalitarian system. I think any criticism of a libertarian system is that it lacked enough government rather than too much. Although it was not libertarian, think about the U. S. under the Articles of Confederation. The constitutional convention was held to give the central government more powers than it had under the Articles.

I don't think we have had any libertarian governments. We have had several communist governments although they varied in how they operated and described communism.
 
Flash said:
I disagree with your comparison. Name any communist nation that is a dictatorship that was not an authoritarian/dictatorship before it became communist.
Authoritarian systems are part of a nation's culture. There is no nation that was libertarian that became a dictatorship or totalitarian system. I think any criticism of a libertarian system is that it lacked enough government rather than too much. Although it was not libertarian, think about the U. S. under the Articles of Confederation. The constitutional convention was held to give the central government more powers than it had under the Articles.

I don't think we have had any libertarian governments. We have had several communist governments although they varied in how they operated and described communism.
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ya. "libertarian governements"are hard to pinpoint
I'd say the USA came closest ( unless you consider a failed state that has no real powers)
before the rush to regulations -essentially a bureaucratic state
 
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