What evidence? So, now it isn't about the phone call? Now what is it? You people just hate a duly elected president, it's all you have. You're really going to lose your cool in 2020. Don't go out and riot in the streets and destroy your own cities.
DICTIONARY DEFINITIONS of BRIBERY, EXTORTION and QUID PRO QUO
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What evidence? So, now it isn't about the phone call? Now what is it? You people just hate a duly elected president, it's all you have. You're really going to lose your cool in 2020. Don't go out and riot in the streets and destroy your own cities.
Getin the ring
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they don't have the guts to get violent, they know their foes very well.
And that's the real irony of the whole charade, not only are they wasting their time, they have no idea how many of them would be beat to a pulp should they find a way to undo our election results. Every conservative has a list, and they don't even know they're on it.
They'll get violent, just look at what's going on on college campuses. Just ask college students.
"A fifth of undergrads now say it's acceptable to use physical force to silence a speaker who makes "offensive and hurtful statements."
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...b1a234-9ca8-11e7-9083-fbfddf6804c2_story.html
https://www.theatlantic.com/politic...ege-students-who-thwarted-free-speech/534114/
And here's a video..."Rowdy and aggressive activists shut down a speech Monday night at the State University of New York at Binghamton by the famed “father of supply-side economics” Arthur Laffer, who was awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom in June."
https://www.thecollegefix.com/video...ather-of-supply-side-economics-arthur-laffer/
Getin the ring
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I hear what you're saying, but how much bravado does it take to break bad on a college student,
out here in the real world, trust me most of those liberal trouble makers cower and find a place to hide when confronted.
And undo our election? they have no idea
The problem is that they're training their kids to become violent for them.
Yeah.....and how did that personal OPINION about what constitutes a reason to remove a duly elected POTUS from office go? Even through Blow Job was charged with 13 felonies (Trump has never been charged with a single crime)…….he walked away from an impeachment.
So....you are now attempting to spin a personal opinion from a person that was spoken 20 years ago (never a law...never found in the Constitution) as now being a PRECENDENT to remove a POTUS from office even though the impeachment trial where that personal opinion was spoken never resulted in the removal of a POTUS being impeached for actual indicted and proven crimes? Really?
I prefer referencing the US CONSTITUTION on what constitutes GROUNDS for IMPEACHMENT just as recorded in Article 2 Section 4 of the Constitution. That is the very reason that AA NANCY and SHITFORBRAINS conducted a poll to see what constitutional wording found in the constitution plays best for the idiots of the Democrat party....they decided on the word BRIBERY as the buzz word that best plays out for the low IQ democrat voters....as Nancy suggested they (the democrat voter base) don't have the mental capacity to understand LATIN (Quid Pro Quo). Funny as hell. The democrats want to impeach Trump via conducting a poll....to hell with the constitution and EVIDENCES OF FACT.
www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.ph...us-Groups-to-Choose-Trump’s-impeachment-Crime
Once again.....no witness has charged....nor provided any factual evidence of any impeachable conduct of Donald J. Trump.
Question? Why do leftists "feel" the need to use PERSONAL OPINION as grounds for impeachment? Is it because you have no factual evidence of any crime being committed?
You want Mr. Trump removed via the precedent of PERSONAL OPINION.....when the source of your SPINNING conclusion never provided the removal of a POTUS (BLOW JOB BILL) from office?
Why does this not surprise anyone?
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Centerleftfl
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I think all 3 are applicable. I'll pick whichever LEGAL door that gets rid of the f'kr in the WH.
PS EXTORTION 'sounds' more sinister
Mason Michaels
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Trump tried to blackmail,end of story
Mason Michaels
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Not relevant,one way or another,to Trumps extortion
The problem? Propaganda......cannot be used as FACTS IN EVIDENCE. The left has proven nothing......
Centerleftfl
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Nope, not PROPAGANDA. BRIBERY/EXTORTION/QUID QUO PRO. Remember the premise the thread...
bribe
noun [ C ]
the act of giving someone money or something else of value, often illegally, to persuade that person to do something you want:
Congressmen have been accused of accepting bribes to pass bills favoring particular companies.
quid pro quo
/ˌkwid ˌprō ˈkwō/
noun
- a favor or advantage granted or expected in return for something.
"the pardon was a quid pro quo for their help in releasing hostages"
ex·tor·tion
/ikˈstôrSH(ə)n/
noun
- the practice of obtaining something, especially money, through force or threats.
"he used bribery and extortion to build himself a huge, art-stuffed mansion"
The FACT is: The left has no "direct" evidence of any of the buzz word accusations. Its been nothing but a parade of left wing embedded bureaucrats that refuse to accept the fact....they no longer control the foreign policies of this nation as has been a generational reality since the FDR administration......the PERMANENT unelected government's source of MONEY is drying up....Mr. Trump is keeping a tight purse string on the never ending stream of THE PEOPLE'S MONEY (tax payer dollars) being used to enrich the personal coffers of the DEEP STATE players and grant them POWER. ….and its PISSING this shadow government off....BIGTIME.
Not one so called witness…..UNDER OATH.....stated that they held DIRECT evidence of any BUZZ word crimes committed by our POTUS. Read the transcript of the entire SHITSHOW production....its nothing but a diatribe of HEARSAY charges void of any 1st hand facts in evidence …...like the actual transcript communications between the 2 nations.
Being a PISSED OFF BUREAUCRAT is not impeachable evidences. They Charge our POTUS of going through non-traditional channels and subverting US FOREIGN AID policy.
Reality: Its the damn PRESIDENT of the UNITED STATES that establishes policy.....not the embedded bureaucrats. These pompous assholes WORK for the PRESIDENT...the president does not work for them. Its the BRUEAUCRATS that are subverting and usurping the Presidents' CONSTITITONAL role in foreign policy matters. This "Vindman" should be kicked out of the service without pension....and then tried in a Court Room for sedition and treason.
Just present the factual evidence contained in the transcript of this supposed IMPEACHMENT INQUIRY and present the witness that said Mr. Trump was guilty of ……..Bribery, Extortion, or Quid Pro Quo
What the factual evidence proves: 1. No aid was denied Ukraine.....the aid was released with no Conditions attached. 2. The President of Ukraine never made an announcement promising an investigation of JOE BIDEN as the leftists declare. 3. In the transcript record of the Inquiry.....Joe Biden has never been found to be a target of Donald Trump...none of the witnesses testified of such.
ITS OVER. Its impossible to remove a duly elected POTUS on nothing but DISGRUNTLED HEARSAY.
I especially enjoyed the Bureaucrat who said he "heard" first hand a phone call between Mr. Trump and his ambassador....when asked when and where.....this witness stated, I listened in on the phone call and heard every word Mr. Trump was saying on the other end of the line....in a crowded restaurant. Yeah...…..super hearing...….When Tapper of CNN said it was more than possible it was EASY. Tapper staged a phone call with his mother....and asked another panel member to relay what she saying without the phone being on speaker....the panel member heard nothing....TAPPER shoved it in her face...still nothing.
Yeah...…..this witness has super hearing.
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Centerleftfl
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I'm bumping, still NEWS hour by hour!
Centerleftfl
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Perhaps it's a TRANSLATION problem from Ukranian to 'Americun'. Zelensky got BOTH as defined by the English dictionary...
black·mail
/ˈblakˌmāl/
noun
- the action, treated as a criminal offense, of demanding payment or another benefit from someone in return for not revealing compromising or damaging information about them.
"they were acquitted of charges of blackmail"
Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky has said there was "no blackmail" in a phone call with Donald Trump that is at the heart of a possible attempt to remove the US president from office.
"This is not corruption, it was just a call," Mr Zelensky said on Thursday.
bbc.com
No blackmail, no threat, no bribery.
Impeachment is a joke
"This is not corruption, it was just a call," Mr Zelensky said on Thursday.
bbc.com
No blackmail, no threat, no bribery.
Impeachment is a joke
Centerleftfl
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Centerleftfl
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So the 'kumbaya', 'pacifists', 'PEACE LOVERS', 'peaceniks' are training their kids for VIOLENCE? Do you people get WHIPLASH? I mean seriously!
We read the posts here. We see the violent protests. We see the hatred for a duly elected president. Who's got "whiplash"?