Amber Guyger's legal team expected to appeal murder conviction

christiefan915 said:
Only two people know what happened once she set foot in that apartment and one of them is dead. She said the apartment was dark yet she managed to shoot him in the heart. She didn't try to give him CPR; instead she went outside, called 911, and started texting her partner. Her story stinks to high heaven.


  • Jean was alive when officers and paramedics arrived, but did not communicate, an officer who was at the scene testified.
  • While Guyger first called 911, she was not seen in the subsequent bodycam video helping Jean.
  • Earbuds were found next to Jean, suggesting he may have had them on at the time.
  • Guyger has previously told investigators she saw a "large silhouette" in the dark apartment. The bodycam video showed that Jean's TV and laptop were on that night, emitting light.
  • Guyger's toxicology reports taken on the night of the shooting came back negative for drugs or alcohol, a detective testified.
  • A detective who tested both Guyger's and Jean's key fobs to enter his apartment found Guyger's key made the lock flash red, meaning it didn't work, while Jean's key made the lock flash green.
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She said his door pushed open from the force of her inserting her key. Apparently, he didn't fully close his door, otherwise she'd have never gotten in to begin with. Even with the light from a TV and a computer, depending on where they were located relative to where he was and what was on each screen at the time, he could've appeared as a silhouette. Especially if she had just came into a darkened room from a well lighted hallway. As for the mistaken apartment, after a long day at work, talking/texting with her boyfriend on her cellphone, mind elsewhere, it's entirely conceivable that she just blundered into the wrong place.

I still cannot believe a young woman police officer with a good record, would intentionally enter a man's apartment and just shoot him for no apparent reason.
 
Flash said:
Texas Penal Code: A person commits an offense if he recklessly causes the death of an individual

This case was not reckless. She intended to cause his death.
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Yeah - you can't call this an accidental shooting due to carelessness by the cop. Doesn't feel like murder either. This is a weird case. Of course it's also possible that the cop and her victim knew each other and she intended to kill him. She's not about to admit to that.
 
Nomad said:
The prosecution established no motive, hence my assertion that she had no motive.

Unless you can tell me one.
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I just told you... I have no way of knowing because I am not she nor can I ever imagine being in that predicament due to my keen sense of where the I am at every given moment. I never bought into the mistaken apartment thing and that is my opinion and instinct on the matter. I just thought the story smelled.
 
Nomad said:
She said his door pushed open from the force of her inserting her key. Apparently, he didn't fully close his door, otherwise she'd have never gotten in to begin with. Even with the light from a TV and a computer, depending on where they were located relative to where he was and what was on each screen at the time, he could've appeared as a silhouette. Especially if she had just came into a darkened room from a well lighted hallway. As for the mistaken apartment, after a long day at work, talking/texting with her boyfriend on her cellphone, mind elsewhere, it's entirely conceivable that she just blundered into the wrong place.

I still cannot believe a young woman police officer with a good record, would intentionally enter a man's apartment and just shoot him for no apparent reason.
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I think everything in the first paragraph could be true. Re: the last sentence, I was thinking about the premeditation aspect in first-degree and looked it up on some law blogs; the definition is that premeditation can be a matter of seconds. In that matter of seconds she apparently decided to shoot him dead rather than pursue numerous other options.

Premeditation

Someone premeditates a crime by considering it before committing it. Premeditation requires that the defendant think out the act, no matter how quickly—it can be as simple deciding to pick up a hammer that is lying nearby and to use it as a weapon.

Deliberation

A defendant deliberates by considering the act and its consequences (but not necessarily the punishment), and deciding to follow through with it. A deliberate act isn’t provoked or carried out in the heat of passion. But that a defendant was excited or angry doesn’t mean that she didn’t deliberate.

Time Required

Time alone doesn’t determine whether a defendant premeditated and deliberated. All premeditation and deliberation require is the time it takes to form the intent, ponder the crime, and then act. Defendants can premeditate and deliberate in a matter of minutes, as long as the thought process occurs before the act.
There is no specific formula for determining whether a defendant premeditated and deliberated before acting. Courts and juries will consider the circumstances of each case.

EXAMPLE: A defendant convicted of first degree murder for strangling a victim with a lamp cord premeditated the murder. The evidence showed that the defendant repositioned the cord around the victim’s neck numerous times, each time giving him the opportunity to reflect on his actions. The defendant had also had time to consider his actions during a struggle with the victim prior to the strangulation, further proving premeditation. (Berube v. State, 5 So.3d 734 (Fla. 2nd DCA 2009).)

https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/what-premeditated-deliberate-conduct.html
 
christiefan915 said:
Only two people know what happened once she set foot in that apartment and one of them is dead. She said the apartment was dark yet she managed to shoot him in the heart. She didn't try to give him CPR; instead she went outside, called 911, and started texting her partner. Her story stinks to high heaven.


  • Jean was alive when officers and paramedics arrived, but did not communicate, an officer who was at the scene testified.
  • While Guyger first called 911, she was not seen in the subsequent bodycam video helping Jean.
  • Earbuds were found next to Jean, suggesting he may have had them on at the time.
  • Guyger has previously told investigators she saw a "large silhouette" in the dark apartment. The bodycam video showed that Jean's TV and laptop were on that night, emitting light.
  • Guyger's toxicology reports taken on the night of the shooting came back negative for drugs or alcohol, a detective testified.
  • A detective who tested both Guyger's and Jean's key fobs to enter his apartment found Guyger's key made the lock flash red, meaning it didn't work, while Jean's key made the lock flash green.


https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/texts-between-amber-guyger-dallas-police-partner-revealed-murder-trial-n1058051
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It was stated that his door was unlocked
 
I have tried to get in the wrong car once or twice and wrong hotel room, I have never lived in an apartment but if it was like a hotel a long hall I can see it happening
 
Shoe on other foot

Someone comes into your unlocked apartment unarmed and u blow them away

I dont think it would be a murder charge!
 
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Police search for 3rd suspect in cop trial witness' slaying

After days of feverish speculation, authorities said the killing of a witness who testified at the recent murder trial of a Dallas police officer had nothing to do with the closely watched case and instead resulted from a drug deal gone bad.

of Joshua Brown, which happened just two days after a jury sentenced former officer Amber Guyger to 10 years in prison for killing her upstairs neighbor Botham Jean.

Police said Tuesday that Brown was killed at a Dallas apartment complex during a drug sale gone awry and that it had nothing to do with his involvement in the Guyger case.

by federal deputy marshals Tuesday night in nearby community of Marksville. Mitchell's nephew, 20-year-old Jacquerious Mitchell, remained in critical condition at a Dallas hospital with a gunshot wound that police say he blamed on Brown.

The third suspect, Thaddeous Green, 22, remained at large.

Investigators believe the three were in Dallas to buy drugs from Brown, Assistant Chief Avery Moore said Tuesday. He said Jacquerious Mitchell told police that Brown shot him in the chest after Green and Brown began fighting during the drug deal, and that Green then shot Brown twice.

Green left with Brown's backpack and gun, police said. Authorities confiscated 12 pounds (5.4 kilograms) of marijuana, 149 grams of THC cartridges and more than $4,000 in cash during a search of Brown's home.

It is unclear how the three men came into contact with Brown or why they would have driven more than 300 miles (483 kilometers) to buy marijuana in another state.

Guyger, who is white, fatally shot Jean, who was black, in September 2018 in his apartment after she returned from working a long shift. She said she mistook his fourth-floor unit for her own, which was one floor below it, and believed Jean was an intruder. She was arrested on a manslaughter charge three days after the killing, leading to criticism that the charge was too lenient, but a grand jury later decided on the more serious charge of murder.

Brown, who was black and lived on Jean's floor, was one of several neighbors who were called by prosecutors to testify at the trial. He said that on the night Jean was killed, he heard what sounded like "two people meeting by surprise" and then two gunshots. He said he had met Jean, a 26-year-old accountant from the Caribbean island nation of St. Lucia, for the first time that day.

Although police say Brown's killing had nothing to do with the case against Guyger, the conspiracy theories surrounding his death underscored the distrust that some Dallas residents have for their police department.

"I have no reason to believe that their conclusions so far in the investigation are unreliable, but I believe ... some members of the community will have a difficult time accepting it because of their association ... with the Amber Guyger trial," Lee Merritt, an attorney for the families of Brown and Jean, said Tuesday.

Merritt urged the department to hand off the investigation into Brown's death to another law enforcement agency as a way to bolster trust.

But Moore, the assistant police chief, said Tuesday that it was reckless for people to speculate as to the circumstances surrounding Brown's death, adding that it undermined the public's faith in the department.

The tensions between Dallas police and community activists erupted into shouting and shoving Tuesday at the first meeting of a new Community Police Oversight Committee. The fracas happened when the committee adjourned without taking public comment. Police Chief U. Renee Hall intervened and opened the floor to comment, which ended up being mostly critical of the department and mistrustful of the committee's intensions.

in such a high-profile trial because he had been wounded in a shooting outside of a Dallas strip club last year. Police said Tuesday that investigators had no evidence linking that shooting to Brown's death.
 
"Baltimore County police officer James D. Laboard, 33 (pictured right), was found not guilty of choking unarmed teen, Christopher Brown, 17 (pictured left), to death on June 12 while allegedly trying to arrest him, reports the Baltimore Sun.

Brown was with a group of boys who allegedly threw a rock at the door to Laboard’s home. The officer gave chase, and without cuffs or a gun, felt that putting the teen in a chokehold was the only way to restrain him."

https://woldcnews.com/1254867/james...nd-not-guilty-of-choking-teen-to-death-video/

This 17 year old Black child was strangled to death by his policeman neighbor. The policeman falsely accused the child of vandalizing his front door, then strangled him to death in his suburban neighborhood.
 
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