Trump Is Just 6 Votes Away From Impeachment

It would be very interesting to see how Trump reacts when they tell him he does not have the votes.

Rage would attain a new definition.

But after the rage, does he resign or be removed, and how is he removed after the Senate vote? Forcibly or peacefully?
 
Hi Jarod,

Jarod said:
It would be very interesting to see how Trump reacts when they tell him he does not have the votes.

Rage would attain a new definition.

But after the rage, does he resign or be removed, and how is he removed after the Senate vote? Forcibly or peacefully?
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No PROBLEM!

He knows just how to 'fix' these kinds of things.

All he has to do is just TWEET that it's 'fake news.'

He can just refuse to believe there is even an impeachment inquiry. JUST CALL IT FAKE NEWS, right?

It doesn't matter what's really going on. He lives in his fantasy world where if he tweets it that makes it the new reality.

After all, this is nothing but garbage from the fake news media, and 'everybody knows' the media is the 'enemy of the people,' right?
 
PoliTalker said:
Hi Jarod,



No PROBLEM!

He knows just how to 'fix' these kinds of things.

All he has to do is just TWEET that it's 'fake news.'

He can just refuse to believe there is even an impeachment inquiry. JUST CALL IT FAKE NEWS, right?

It doesn't matter what's really going on. He lives in his fantasy world where if he tweets it that makes it the new reality.

After all, this is nothing but garbage from the fake news media, and 'everybody knows' the media is the 'enemy of the people,' right?
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You think he is hiding in the bathroom with noise cancelling headphones on trying to make himself believe yesterday was just a bad dream?
 
PoliTalker said:
If there's been any wrongdoing, it's always somebody else.
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well, that is what the evidence has shown to date, isn't it?......given the scrutiny since he was elected do you still seriously think you will find any evidence he has committed a crime?......and don't claim you already have because we both know it isn't true......
 
I am going to put Deb Fischer into the maybe column. She has been mysteriously silent about this whole whistleblower thing, tweeting as if it's not even there. One thing she has NOT done is rush to his defense.


NO:
Rick Scott FL
Mike Braun IN
Chuck Grassley IA
Roger Wicker MI
Cindy Hyde-Smith MI
John Hoeven ND
Kevin Cramer ND
Marsha Blackburn TN
Ron Johnson WI
John Barrasso WY
Jim Risch ID
Rand Paul KY

YES:
Mitt Romney UT
Richard Burr NC
Susan Collins ME
Mike Lee UT
Ted Cruz TX
Lisa Murkowski AK
Martha McSally AZ
Cory Gardner CO
Marco Rubio FL
Todd Young IN
Joni Ernst IA
Jerry Moran KA
Roy Blunt MS
Ben Sasse NE
Rob Portman OH
Lindsey Graham SC

MAYBE:
Richard Shelby AL
Mike Crapo ID
Bill Cassidy LA
John Kennedy LA
Josh Hawley MS
Thom Tillis NC
Tim Scott SC
Lamar Alexander TN
Shelly Moore Capito WV
Mike Enzi WY
Dan Sullivan AK
Johnny Isakson GA
Pat Roberts KA
Steve Daines MT
Deb Fischer NE

UNDECIDED:
John Boozman AR
Tom Cotton AR
David Perdue GA
Mitch McConnell KY
Jim Inhofe OK
James Lankford OK
Pat Toomey PA
John Thune SD
Mike Rounds SD
John Cornyn TX
 
Politico:

"Sen. Jim Inhofe has heard enough about President Donald Trump’s conversation with Ukraine regarding an investigation into Joe Biden.

“It’ll just be negative to [Trump] because that’s the nature of it,” said the Senate Armed Services Committee chairman. Asked whether Congress should receive details about a whistleblower complaint regarding the July 25 conversation with the Ukrainian president, the Oklahoma Republican replied: “No. I don’t think so.”

“This happens every day,” Inhofe said of negative scrutiny of the president. “Why would they quit now?”

Inhofe's dismissiveness belied the extreme caution among more than a dozen Senate Republicans on Monday night, as the GOP struggled to keep pace with the politically volatile story that’s playing out this week after reports of Trump pressuring Ukraine to probe former Vice President Biden and his family. The vast majority refused to criticize Trump, though few were vigorously defending him either."

Inhofe goes into the Maybe column.


NO:
Rick Scott FL
Mike Braun IN
Chuck Grassley IA
Roger Wicker MI
Cindy Hyde-Smith MI
John Hoeven ND
Kevin Cramer ND
Marsha Blackburn TN
Ron Johnson WI
John Barrasso WY
Jim Risch ID
Rand Paul KY

YES:
Mitt Romney UT
Richard Burr NC
Susan Collins ME
Mike Lee UT
Ted Cruz TX
Lisa Murkowski AK
Martha McSally AZ
Cory Gardner CO
Marco Rubio FL
Todd Young IN
Joni Ernst IA
Jerry Moran KA
Roy Blunt MS
Ben Sasse NE
Rob Portman OH
Lindsey Graham SC

MAYBE:
Richard Shelby AL
Mike Crapo ID
Bill Cassidy LA
John Kennedy LA
Josh Hawley MS
Thom Tillis NC
Tim Scott SC
Lamar Alexander TN
Shelly Moore Capito WV
Mike Enzi WY
Dan Sullivan AK
Johnny Isakson GA
Pat Roberts KA
Steve Daines MT
Deb Fischer NE
Jim Inhofe OK

UNDECIDED:
John Boozman AR
Tom Cotton AR
David Perdue GA
Mitch McConnell KY
James Lankford OK
Pat Toomey PA
John Thune SD
Mike Rounds SD
John Cornyn TX
 
I've been boning up on who said what. Here are the latest adjustments to my guesses:

Boozman has not rushed to Trump's defense publicly or on Twitter. I'll put him in the Maybe column...

I'll put Tom Cotton in the No column. He has made statements supportive of Trump, and attacked Hunter Biden

Rounds, Lankford and Perdue go into the maybe column. They have not rushed to defend Trump.


NO:
Rick Scott FL
Mike Braun IN
Chuck Grassley IA
Roger Wicker MI
Cindy Hyde-Smith MI
John Hoeven ND
Kevin Cramer ND
Marsha Blackburn TN
Ron Johnson WI
John Barrasso WY
Jim Risch ID
Rand Paul KY
Tom Cotton AR

YES:
Mitt Romney UT
Richard Burr NC
Susan Collins ME
Mike Lee UT
Ted Cruz TX
Lisa Murkowski AK
Martha McSally AZ
Cory Gardner CO
Marco Rubio FL
Todd Young IN
Joni Ernst IA
Jerry Moran KA
Roy Blunt MS
Ben Sasse NE
Rob Portman OH
Lindsey Graham SC

MAYBE:
Richard Shelby AL
Mike Crapo ID
Bill Cassidy LA
John Kennedy LA
Josh Hawley MS
Thom Tillis NC
Tim Scott SC
Lamar Alexander TN
Shelly Moore Capito WV
Mike Enzi WY
Dan Sullivan AK
Johnny Isakson GA
Pat Roberts KA
Steve Daines MT
Deb Fischer NE
Jim Inhofe OK
John Boozman AR
Mike Rounds SD
David Perdue GA
James Lankford OK

UNDECIDED:
Mitch McConnell KY
Pat Toomey PA
John Thune SD
John Cornyn TX

Caution: Naturally, as new information becomes available, these column entries are all subject to being shifted around.
 
20 yes votes needed to convict.

We are at estimated 16.

Just 4 more needed out of

24 either Maybe or Undecided..........

Looks bad for Trump.
 
Hi Jarod,

Jarod said:
Imagine how many crimes he would commit if at a rally at this point. He would threaten a lot of people.
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He would probably have a stroke screaming about being so unjustly victimized. He's so amazing, right? Everybody wants to be HIM. Everybody is SO JEALOUS, so everybody's trying to GET HIM. This happens to all amazing people, you see. You just don't know what it's like being so amazing.
 
Here's an article giving updates on where the Republican Senators stand on this:

"Many Senate Republicans said on Thursday that they haven't read the whistleblower complaint yet. Others said the complaint doesn't change things and raises "more questions than answers."
Here's what they told reporters about the complaint:

Oklahoma Sen. James Lankford and North Dakota Sen. John Hoeven each said they were in appropriations mark-ups and hadn't yet read the full complaint.

Indiana Sen. Mike Braun said he hadn't read it either, adding that he didn't know about the allegations to "lock down" information at the White House. Braun went on to say that he didn't feel the complaint would change Republicans' views of impeachment, and said the Democrats had made a mistake starting an impeachment inquiry before knowing more about the complaint.

Tennessee Sen. Lamar Alexander said he has not read the complaint. "I'm waiting for the intelligence committee to finish its work."

Ohio Sen. Rob Portman said he said he's been "running around" all day and hasn't read it and would not comment.

Arkansas Sen. Tom Cotton said "no comment" twice and boarded a senators-only elevator when asked if he was concerned the White House was locking down information.

Missouri Sen. Roy Blunt, a member of the Senate Intelligence Committee, said, "We're committed to gather the information before we reach conclusions. Other people who don't have this responsibility can reach conclusions right away," Blunt said. "In my case I'm not ready to make any conclusions yet and still ready to gather more information."

Florida Sen. Marco Rubio told reporters he has read the whistleblower's complaint, and says he has "more questions than answers."

Idaho Sen. Jim Risch, the chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, said that there was "nothing there" when asked about the rough transcript of Trump's call with the Ukrainian leader. On the whistleblower complaint, he said that he prefers to look at the primary document, meaning the rough transcript.

South Dakota Sen. Mike Rounds said "they are using second-hand information right now. Let's let the committee investigate it."

Iowa Sen. Joni Ernst said she hasn't had time to read the whole complaint, saying, "I am going to have to dig into it."

Sen. Richard Burr, chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee, said after his panel heard testimony from acting Director of National Intelligence Joseph Maguire that "this will generate more questions than we asked today. The next two weeks we'll probably be trying to get answers to those," referencing the two-week Senate recess that began Thursday. "Don't expect us to move at lightspeed -- that will probably happen in the House. But the committee is committed to make sure we get to the bottom of questions (that) need answers."

Sen. Susan Collins, of Maine, said the hearing was a "worthwhile discussion" and "there are obviously a lot of questions" coming out of it.

This story will be updated with more reactions as they become available."

CNN: Here's what Republican senators are saying about the whistleblower complaint
 
I just googled it.

Pennsylvania’s two U.S. senators fell on opposite, and predictable, sides of the impeachment debate Wednesday, as the White House released a memo showing President Donald Trump pressured Ukraine’s leader on a July phone call to investigate a rival in the 2020 presidential campaign.

Republican Sen. Pat Toomey said Trump’s conversation was “inappropriate” but did not “rise to the level of an impeachable offense.”

Democrat Bob Casey threw his support behind the impeachment inquiry announced Tuesday by House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, saying Trump’s conduct was a “textbook case of abuse of power."

https://www.inquirer.com/news/bob-casey-impeachment-trump-pennsylvania-democrats-20190925.html
 
christiefan915 said:
I just googled it.

Pennsylvania’s two U.S. senators fell on opposite, and predictable, sides of the impeachment debate Wednesday, as the White House released a memo showing President Donald Trump pressured Ukraine’s leader on a July phone call to investigate a rival in the 2020 presidential campaign.

Republican Sen. Pat Toomey said Trump’s conversation was “inappropriate” but did not “rise to the level of an impeachable offense.”

Democrat Bob Casey threw his support behind the impeachment inquiry announced Tuesday by House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, saying Trump’s conduct was a “textbook case of abuse of power."

https://www.inquirer.com/news/bob-casey-impeachment-trump-pennsylvania-democrats-20190925.html
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Good beans.

Both of our Senators are (D)s so I expect they're both on board with Dump the Trump.
 
Hello christiefan915,

christiefan915 said:
I think you can put Bob Casey Jr. (PA) into the yes column.
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This thread assume all the Democrats would vote to convict. We are focusing on the Republican Senators only for the purpose of this exercise.

We are assuming all the Dems plus the 2 independents would for Yes. That's 47. 20 more yes votes needed out of 53 Republican Senators.
 
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