Darth Omar
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The richest, most powerful nation in the world lacked the diplomatic resources to get a concession on a simple SOFA treaty lol?
Would YOU care to expand?
Pentagon blames Trump for resurgence of ISIS
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The richest, most powerful nation in the world lacked the diplomatic resources to get a concession on a simple SOFA treaty lol?
Would YOU care to expand?
Althea
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Sure it's debatable. Obama eradicated ISIS from Iraq before leaving office.
https://www.wilsoncenter.org/article/timeline-the-rise-spread-and-fall-the-islamic-state
Althea
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Read the link. How can you possibly claim to have argued the point ad nauseam, yet know so little?
Darth Omar
Russian asset
No, it’s not debatable that Obama’s *inaction* enabled ISIS to set up camp in Iraq.
Darth Omar
Russian asset
You didn’t answer the question.
Althea
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Very good. Baby steps. Keep back pedaling, and you eventually get to the truth. Obama eradicated ISIS in Iraq before leaving office. He handed trump the ball on the 2 yard line, and the fool claims to have done it all by himself.
Now, after pulling the rug out from under his generals, ISIS enjoys gains in the region.
Althea
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Looks like it's time for you to dance with Sailor and the Yurt troll. You seem to be done here.
in all probability the SOFA could have been re-negotiated - but there was no desire by Iraq or the USA/coalition to do so.
Frankly I don't think the SOFA was the problem, it was the complete disregard by Obama of the ISIS convoys into Iraq.
finally Iraqi and Shiite militas did take action but this was after the ravages of ISIL
^ Rusian Air Force eliminated ISIS convoy in Syria
TOTAL BULLSHIT...the Obamidiot was "bound" to NOTHING, and whether or not to leave a strike force there, was ENTRIELY AT HIS DISCRETION.
He was too busy HANDING ISIS LIBYA's MILITARY ARSENAL TO PAY ATTENTION, APPARENTLY....
Darth Omar
Russian asset
One of us is done here, I’ll grant that lol.
I bet you thought we lacked the diplomatic resources to deal with China before Trump came along.
There was always a great suspicion the annex in Bengazi was a CIA front for arms dealing Libyan weapons into Syria
Dotard here wants perpetual war in Syria..no ISIS is not "making gains" - at best they control a couple of checkpoints
AND Iraq and the coalition are STILL GOING AFTER THEM ON THE BATTLEFIELD
ISIS has deteriorated back from where it come from - a virulent insurgency for Iraq and Syria
Althea
Althea told me...
I can lead you to water, I can't make you drink.
https://www.washingtoninstitute.org/policy-analysis/view/behind-the-u.s.-withdrawal-from-iraq
Enjoy dancing with Sailor. He doesn't often get his feet on terra firma.
Death of Mullah Omar and the Rise of ISIS in Afghanistan
https://css.ethz.ch/en/services/digital-library/publications/publication.html/193215
1) provide an overview of who Mullah Omar was;
2) argue that Mullah Omar’s death will exacerbate existing fractures within the Taliban and accelerate a power grab among several prominent individuals who have fundamental disagreements over the objectives of the movement;
3) discuss what these internal divisions within the Taliban might mean for the conflict in Afghanistan; and
4) analyze how the so-called Islamic State will likely exploit these tensions to expand its presence and operations in Afghanistan and Pakistan.
Darth Omar
Russian asset
Weak link.
It even asserts that Obama was ‘unenthusiastic’ about the negotiations—which is *precisely* my point. Obama wanted out of Iraq no matter what the cost. The SOFA negotiations gave him political cover to get out.
I’m not ‘not ok’ with that. We had to get out at some point—just like we can’t be in Afghanistan 4-Ever. My problem is Obama’s dithering with ISIS when he had the chance to do like the Russians did and send their convoys to meet the 70 virgins or whatever happens to them.
IS militants are active in rural areas with remote, rugged terrain that gives them freedom to move and plan attacks. These include the deserts of Anbar and Nineveh provinces, and the mountains that straddle Kirkuk, Salah al-Din and Diyala provinces.
Cells "appear to be planning activities that undermine government authority, create an atmosphere of lawlessness, sabotage societal reconciliation and increase the cost of reconstruction and counter-terrorism", according to Mr Guterres. These activities include kidnappings for ransom, targeted assassinations of local leaders, and attacks against state utilities and services.
The IS network in Syria is expected to evolve to resemble that in Iraq.
Besides the Euphrates valley, the group has a presence in the opposition-held north-western province of Idlib, in government-held areas south of the capital Damascus, and in the Badiya region, a vast stretch of desert in south-eastern Syria.
Your totally unsupported allegation is the "TOTAL BULLSHIT", as demonstrated by multiple links posted in the thread.
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Althea
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Lol...a U.S ambassador recounting recent history is 'weak'.
It wasn't that long ago. You don't remember? As the citation states, the Iraqi govt. was an amalgam of distinct factions. Most wanted us out, and we wanted the same. Clearly, they weren't prepared to protect themselves. When ISIS started attacking everyone in the region that wasn't a zealot, it was safe to destroy them without as much concern for judgement about collateral damage.
Do you forget that they embedded within towns/villages? They were famous for using 'civilian shields'. Have you forgotten the exodus out of Mosul before the U.S moved in?
Of course he was unenthusiastic. We all were. Everyone wanted out, including Republicans. After Bush began his occupation in the region, the last thing we needed to do was to attack Syria.
Especially given that everyone was still foaming at the mouth over Hillary/Stevens in Libya. So ISIS made a comeback in Iraq, and were summarily squashed by the Obama Pentagon. We can't chase them around the world. Nor should we.