DEMOCRAT debate part II

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So I'm watching this thing and thinking, are they even serious about being President?
What a clown show.

I'm also thinking to myself, It's probably going to be Biden that ends up taking on Trump, not because of his good ideas but because he is the lefts only hope of withstanding the Trump beat down.

Then I'm thinking, Biden is like Trump light, he's just like Trump really so it wouldn't be so bad to have him as President, he's basically a wolf in sheeps clothing for the liberal nut**bags, can they not see that?
 
So I'm watching this thing and thinking, are they even serious about being President?
What a clown show.

I'm also thinking to myself, It's probably going to be Biden that ends up taking on Trump, not because of his good ideas but because he is the lefts only hope of withstanding the Trump beat down.

Then I'm thinking, Biden is like Trump light, he's just like Trump really so it wouldn't be so bad to have him as President, he's basically a wolf in sheeps clothing for the liberal nut**bags, can they not see that?

Trump is trailing Biden by %10.
 
So I'm watching this thing and thinking, are they even serious about being President?
What a clown show.

I'm also thinking to myself, It's probably going to be Biden that ends up taking on Trump, not because of his good ideas but because he is the lefts only hope of withstanding the Trump beat down.

Then I'm thinking, Biden is like Trump light, he's just like Trump really so it wouldn't be so bad to have him as President, he's basically a wolf in sheeps clothing for the liberal nut**bags, can they not see that?
Socialists, open border and sanctuary cities advocates, Medicare for all...including illegals (non-citizens) which would cause the loss of 185 million private policies, reparations advocates..
 
Trump is trailing Biden by %10.[/QUOTE
Crooked Hillary up 12 points, in a landslide, no path to the presidency for Trump.

You stick with that. It will keep you warm at night. Hill was within the margin of error when the election came. She won by 3 million votes and it was right on the polling. Comey and the Russians made Daffy president.
 
So I'm watching this thing and thinking, are they even serious about being President?
What a clown show.

I'm also thinking to myself, It's probably going to be Biden that ends up taking on Trump, not because of his good ideas but because he is the lefts only hope of withstanding the Trump beat down.

Then I'm thinking, Biden is like Trump light, he's just like Trump really so it wouldn't be so bad to have him as President, he's basically a wolf in sheeps clothing for the liberal nut**bags, can they not see that?

Of the Dems that are running right now Biden has the best chance of getting the nomination.
 
You stick with that. It will keep you warm at night. Hill was within the margin of error when the election came. She won by 3 million votes and it was right on the polling. Comey and the Russians made Daffy president.

Um...crooked Hillary won?

Is she in the White House? Perhaps she is in the closet?

Electoral Votes
Hillary R. Clinton-227
Donald Trump-304

In a “landslide.”
 
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Of the Dems that are running right now Biden has the best chance of getting the nomination.

Way too early to say that. There is a year and a half. A lot can change. Polling this early is just political fast food for TV networks to chew on. We are just watching the dance as one self-proclaimed candidate after another takes themselves off the floor.
Biden is old. He is even older than Trump, who is too old. Trump shows signs of dementia, Biden does not.
 
Socialists, open border and sanctuary cities advocates, Medicare for all...including illegals (non-citizens) which would cause the loss of 185 million private policies, reparations advocates..

Not a single candidate who will help Middle Americans in that bunch.

Four more years.
 
The clown show was full of, well clowns, so no surprise there.

the only question really is which clown will get the nomination.

Biden is the only one who is not a socialist, and a socialist can not win an election for American president no way no how.

my point is Biden is not really a Democrat in his policy.

He is the least dangerous of them all and in a lot of ways will govern like Trump governs.

Democrats are in trouble, but it's their own fault for embracing nutters


. Hill was within the margin of error when the election came. She won by 3 million votes and it was right on the polling. Comey and the Russians made Daffy president.

can always count on you to say something stupid ^^^

you're a hoot for a little tiny man you must be fun at parties
 
Mark Penn: Democrats' debate was a panderfest
By Mark Penn, opinion contributor — 08/01/19 09:15 AM EDT

The second night of the second round of the Democrats’ presidential debates was no eloquent dialogue between moderates and the left. It was an all-out panderfest and, at times, an old-fashioned slugfest.

By the end of this endless debate, spooned out in one-minute dollops, I walked out with a $1,000-a-month check, an extra grand if I’m a female, untold reparations dollars if I am African American, Medicare from birth covering everything I’ll ever need until death, and the right to cross the border without any real penalty if I’m from another country. Prosecuting criminals of any kind generally got a thumbs-down, while white privilege made me immune from racist police who were painted as villains. And there will be no more pointless wars, carbon emissions will be zero by 2030, and it may take 10 years, but the government will run almost all health care.

While these same candidates earlier this week expressed outrage at President Trump for tweeting that Baltimore was a rat-infested mess, they all seemed to portray our entire country as in far worse shape than that Maryland oasis. America, it seems, is not the land of full employment, rising wages and decreased poverty. It’s not a country in which 90 percent have health insurance, almost everyone has a smartphone, and 64 percent own their home. It’s at heart a racist, misogynistic country dominated by fat cats and big corporations sucking the life out of us all. According to these candidates it’s a dark, dark place and, unless we usher them into office and save it through these programs and policies that start at a mere $30 trillion, America will continue to be a lost country.

Nearly every one of the candidates called for the impeachment of President Trump, and yet none of them called out a specific act that the president did to merit impeachment. They just said that former special counsel Robert Mueller outlined 10 of them and left it at that, ignoring that the Justice Department declared that these actions did not rise to obstruction of justice. Russia collusion as a theory has been abandoned.

When not pandering to gender, racial or ethnic groups with offers of cash, the candidates attacked each other. They took turns trying to knock Joe Biden off his front-runner pedestal and, while the former vice president was at times wobbly, the consensus is that he held his own this time. He did, and he deserves some courage points for standing up for his record and releasing a health care plan based on expanding ObamaCare. And yet, one wonders how he will fare in a smaller group of candidates with Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) in the mix, in later debates. Over the two nights of debating in Detroit, she probably did the best job of combining policy with a strong sense of activism.

There was no holding back on blue vs. blue or in attacking former President Obama’s policies. Sen. Kamala Harris (D-Calif.) was attacked for being a prosecutor, Biden for saying some time ago (in an op-ed he would just as soon forget) that, in essence, a woman’s place was in the home. He squirmed a bit on that one but shrugged it off as a long time ago.

The candidates’ views on trade were largely incomprehensible. Democrats used to be the party of protectionism, working to stop the theft of jobs by low-wage workers in places like China. Yet, they all opposed the Trump tariffs while pledging to have labor and environmentalists at the table for future trade deals, whatever that means.

None of the candidates had any kind of vision of the future of the country or of the world. Andrew Yang came the closest to mentioning how technology is changing the world, but he referenced it only as eating up jobs, not as creating a new world driven by AI. There simply was no view of how to advance America’s role in a world driven by the twin forces of technology and globalization while separated by religion, ethnicity and nationality.

The debate’s format promoted an almost comic-strip view of the world with rapid-fire questions and responses. Generally, all of the questions were softballs that allowed the candidates to repeat their favorite stump-speech lines, or lines they crafted for the debate — and Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand (D-N.Y.) clearly was waiting to get in her line about using Clorox at the White House on the first day if she is elected.

I think you can tell that there was little I liked about this debate and the direction the major candidates for the Democratic nomination are taking to make it through the early rounds of “Survivor.” I felt quite differently after the Tuesday debate, when moderates fairly challenged the left on policies that would cost trillions — that night lacked fireworks but showed the Democrats as a serious party having a substantive debate. Even the policies I didn’t agree with came off as smart and worth at least considering.

But the Wednesday night debate was quite different, as the candidates reeled off prepared lines geared toward putting identity- and class-politics at the heart of the revival of the party and their advancement to the next round. This approach was discarded in the ’90s, only to return bigger than ever today, as each candidate sought to outdo the other with outlandish promises and oppo-research attacks.

Mark Penn is a managing partner of the Stagwell Group, a private equity firm specializing in marketing services companies, as well as chairman of the Harris Poll and author of “Microtrends Squared.” He also is CEO of MDC Partners, an advertising and marketing firm. He served as pollster and adviser to former President Clinton from 1995 to 2000, including during Clinton’s impeachment. You can follow him on Twitter @Mark_Penn.
https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/455700-mark-penn-democrats-debate-was-a-panderfest
 
Lovvvvved Gabbard filleting Harris. I'm sure the media
is now going to go after Gabbard like a piñata.
Probably accuse her of Russian backing as well. LOL :laugh:

 
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