Republicans can't deal with medical care:

[Into the Night]

Of course, it is. That is why the ACA was pushing hard to get young people to join. They re a demographic which would use it the least. However, even young people can get sick and get in accidents. You can argue it is a good idea to buy it. But overall, they would be paying to help the masses.
Statistics are showing a drop in heart disease in America since the ACA. It helped America become healthier,

Arguments from randU fallacies.

Heart disease has been going down since 1964, according to the CDC. The ACA wasn't passed until Obama.

 

[Into the Night]

You don’t understand the true concept of insurance

Also your last statement can’t be proven.

His last statement can be falsified though. The CDC disagrees with him.

 

[Gonzomin]

Nope. The ACA has made America healthier.https://www.usnews.com/news/health-...pansion-may-have-lowered-heart-disease-deaths There are lots of sites corroborating. Providing healthcare to the people will make them healthier.

 

[jimmymccready]

Into The Night is a weak-kneed libertarian who lives by fallacy. This is proven by his posting.

His kind will never govern America. God will not permit it his kind to ever interpret the Constitution or govern America.

Please do not leave us, Into The Night.

 

[CFM]

CFM, Within the U.S. Constitution’s preamble:
“promote the general welfare”.

Within article 1, section 8:
“The Congress shall have power to … provide for the common defense and general welfare of the United States; … To regulate commerce with foreign nations, and among the several states, and with the Indian tribes; … fix the standard of weights and measures; … To make all laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into execution the foregoing powers, and all other powers vested by this Constitution in the government of the United States, or in any department or officer thereof”.

The Federal courts, and particularly the U.S. Supreme Court have thus far upheld this against opposition to federal acts, laws, or regulations such as Social Security retirement, minimum wage rate, mandated individual purchasing of medical insurance, and child labor laws.

Respectfully, Supposn

That doesn't say "healthcare".

 

[CFM]

Into The Night is a weak-kneed libertarian who lives by fallacy. This is proven by his posting.

His kind will never govern America. God will not permit it his kind to ever interpret the Constitution or govern America.

Please do not leave us, Into The Night.

The weak kneed are those like you that expect the government to solve every problem you have.

 

[CFM]

Nope. The ACA has made America healthier.https://www.usnews.com/news/health-...pansion-may-have-lowered-heart-disease-deaths There are lots of sites corroborating. Providing healthcare to the people will make them healthier.

Giving someone something they don't pay for and didn't earn makes them a weaker person.

 

[CFM]

Teflon Don, prior to D-day, families' wealth and contributions to tax revenues were not factors of consideration for determining which individuals would be among the earliest and riskiest waves of troops landing on the beaches. We hope that all contribute what they can for the benefit of our nation.

You're contending a nation which requires both the poor and the wealthy to risk and possibly pay with their lives should deny the benefits of medical technology to those unable to afford them. Dependent upon individuals' medical condition, medical care is more or less a necessity, but it is a necessity of life?
Respectfully, Supposn

The contention is that if you want someone that can't afford anything to have it, you personally pay for it on their behalf. If you refuse and they can't, they can do without and you can go on pretending that claims that you care have any value.

 

[Gonzomin]

Giving someone something they don't pay for and didn't earn makes them a weaker person.

I am shocked. You are wrong again. Universal healthcare saves you money. If you are a corporation, you do not supply it or a staff to work on Insurance. That makes you more competitive in the world market. Wouldn't that be great? And people who buy it themselves would not have to. The cost of taxes would be about half. That means, they save money. and do not have to battle an insurance company to access healthcare.The ACA was a step toward universal health care, the only system that makes sense,
Your mind is weaker. That is clear.

 

[CFM]

I am shocked. You are wrong again. Universal healthcare saves you money. If you are a corporation, you do not supply it or a staff to work on Insurance. That makes you more competitive in the world market. Wouldn't that be great? And people who buy it themselves would not have to. The cost of taxes would be about half. That means, they save money. and do not have to battle an insurance company to access healthcare.The ACA was a step toward universal health care, the only system that makes sense,
Your mind is weaker. That is clear.

Still proving you're nothing but a freeloading weakling.

No one is shocked that lesser humans like you expect the government to constantly do things for them. Guess that and not expecting others to pay for things that befall me makes me the better man.

 

[jimmymccready]

CFM clearly does not understand the health care up front saves the tax payer even more on the back side.

 

[Gonzomin]

That doesn't say "healthcare".

General welfare is attained by providing healthcare.

 

[CFM]

General welfare is attained by providing healthcare.

I asked where it said "healthcare". You're providing me an opinion not a fact nor are you answering the question. The correct answer is that the Constitution says nothing about healthcare. If it did, you wouldn't have to reach around and pretend general welfare means that by pulling it out of your ass.

 

[Althea]

You are right. I do. I am self employed. I pay my own.

Same here. And like myself, you then take the expense as a write off, passing the burden off on the govt.

 

[CFM]

Same here. And like myself, you then take the expense as a write off, passing the burden off on the govt.

Look at it as not giving the government as much money to waste.

 

[gemini104104]

It appears Repukes cannot deal with mental health care either, and to which they all deserve and including prison care and capital punishment care in particular. This is for the reason, antigovernment conspiring GOPers only care about is treason, destroying the legitimacy of elections, theft against the working and middle class taxpayer, being morally bankrupt degenerates and other unAmerican and uncivilized and barbaric tendencies that they are committed to.

 

[Teflon Don]

Same here. And like myself, you then take the expense as a write off, passing the burden off on the govt.

Your last statement is ludicrous

 

[Into the Night]

Into The Night is a weak-kneed libertarian

My knees are fine. I am not a libertarian, but a constititutionalist.

who lives by fallacy.

Inversion fallacy. This seems to be YOUR problem.

This is proven by his posting.

You have not make a proof of any kind. You just seem to like to try to throw insults.

His kind will never govern America.

You cannot predict the future. You are not a prophet.

God will not permit it his kind to ever interpret the Constitution or govern America.

You do not speak for God. You only speak for you.

Please do not leave us, Into The Night.

I have no intention of going anywhere.

 

[Into the Night]

I am shocked.

No, you are pissed. Big difference.

You are wrong again.

No, he's dead right.

Universal healthcare saves you money.

No it doesn't. You still pay for that healthcare through taxes.

If you are a corporation, you do not supply it or a staff to work on Insurance.

Non-sequitur fallacy. Corporations do not have to supply health insurance unless the government tells them to. No corporation provides health care unless they are a hospital or a clinic.

That makes you more competitive in the world market. Wouldn't that be great?

Non-sequitur fallacy.

And people who buy it themselves would not have to.

Yes they do. They are FORCED to.

The cost of taxes would be about half.

WRONG. Taxes would increase, dramatically.

That means, they save money. and do not have to battle an insurance company to access healthcare.

No, you have to battle government instead, an altogether more difficult prospect to obtain healthcare.

The ACA was a step toward universal health care, the only system that makes sense,

No, it is not. You are STILL conflating health care insurance with health care. They are NOT the same.

The ACA has failed. It is collapsing even as we speak. It DID increase the costs of healthcare insurance dramatically for everyone. There are lot more people that simply can't afford healthcare insurance at all anymore.

Your mind is weaker. That is clear.

Insult fallacy.

 

[Adolf_Twitler]

The Republicans are trying to be the Healthcare Nazi's!