Draft: Articles of Impeachment

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“Poll: Clinton leads by 12 points
By STEVEN SHEPARD 10/23/2016 10:31 AM EDT
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Hillary Clinton has opened up a 12-point advantage over Donald Trump following their final debate last week and has reached the critical 50-percent mark, according to a new poll released Sunday.

Clinton’s 50-percent-to-38-percent lead over Trump in the first ABC News tracking poll, which is based on interviews conducted Thursday through Saturday...”
 
LV426 said:
OK, then defend him from what's in the Mueller report.

Defend him on the 11 instances of obstruction; would love a preview of that defense.
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nothing to defend.
there is a bunch of places to look -but Mueller doesn't say any of them are culpable; there is certainly nothing there to impeach on as is.
While impeachment is a political act,it has to be based on "high crimes and misdemeanors".

You need to hold hearings. But since you are not getting much in the way of documents from Trump
there isn't much to examine.
But impeachment hearings would give more power to compel subpoena replies
( as denying a impeachment hearing subpoena then looks like a cover up)

It all boils down to getting those Impeachment hearing up and running - stop wasting your time here
and start making phone calls, signing petitions, website hits - there are lots of things you can do.
IMPEACH NOW!
 
PostmodernProphet said:
do you think I need to defend him from "we did not conclude that the president had committed any crime"........
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You left the rest of that sentence off. Why did you do that? Because the rest of the sentence says he isn't cleared of committing a crime either.

So why did you leave the second part of that sentence out?

It's because you're a Christian, and all Christians have to act in bad faith because all Christians are really immoral, evil slugs and leeches.
 
anatta said:
there is a bunch of places to look -but Mueller doesn't say any of them are culpable; there is certainly nothing there to impeach on as is
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How would you know? You haven't read Mueller's report.

As usual, you're just talking out of your ass.
 
anatta said:
nothing to defend.
there is a bunch of places to look -but Mueller doesn't say any of them are culpable; there is certainly nothing there to impeach on as is.
While impeachment is a political act,it has to be based on "high crimes and misdemeanors".

You need to hold hearings. But since you are not getting much in the way of documents from Trump
there isn't much to examine.
But impeachment hearings would give more power to compel subpoena replies ( as denying a impeachment hearing then looks like a cover up)

It all boils down to getting those Impeachment hearing up and running - stop wasting your time here
and start making phone calls, signing petitions, website hits - there are lots of things you can do.
IMPEACH NOW!
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He’s a stone troll, anatta. He will tell you black is white. A colossal waste of time.
 
anatta said:
You need to hold hearings
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Well, they are...you guys are just refusing to show up for those hearings because you're criminals.

That's a strong 2020 campaign message; "vote for us because we're criminals and we defend criminals".

Good luck with that.
 
LV426 said:
You left the rest of that sentence off. Why did you do that? Because the rest of the sentence says he isn't cleared of committing a crime either.

So why did you leave the second part of that sentence out?

It's because you're a Christian, and all Christians have to act in bad faith because all Christians are really immoral, evil slugs and leeches.
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Not all Christians, but PMP is certainly a massive liar.
 
anatta said:
But impeachment hearings would give more power to compel subpoena replies
( as denying a impeachment hearing subpoena then looks like a cover up)
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We just need to get to impeachment hearings...that's all.

We don't even need a vote on impeachment in the House, we just need to hold hearings because it will force you to defend his actions, putting off 2020 voters, and drive Trump insane.

Trump and you Conservatives never react with restraint; impeachment will bring all your worst instincts to the surface and make you look culpable in Trump's criminality by defending him.

Not a good look if you're trying to win a national election.
 
LV426 said:
How would you know? You haven't read Mueller's report.

As usual, you're just talking out of your ass.
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because Mueller doen't even come to any conclusions.
He just says shit like "this and that happened" or "He said this and then that was said"

Surely you don't think what Mueler wrote as extant is enough to impeach?

He left the Dems a roadmap, cookie crumbs, a trail to track down - but the information has to be investigated and formalized -only impeachment hearing can do that - especially since Trump is giving the Dems the back of his hand in docs request.

There is only one road to impeachment, and it has to go thru Impeachment hearings for discovery and
investigation to be refined to a level of an impeachable offense.

Why are you still posting here?? GET TO WORK
 
anatta said:
It all boils down to getting those Impeachment hearing up and running - stop wasting your time here
and start making phone calls, signing petitions, website hits - there are lots of things you can do.
IMPEACH NOW!
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My Congressman already supports impeachment.
 
LV426 said:
We just need to get to impeachment hearings...that's all.

We don't even need a vote on impeachment in the House, we just need to hold hearings because it will force you to defend his actions, putting off 2020 voters, and drive Trump insane.

Trump and you Conservatives never react with restraint; impeachment will bring all your worst instincts to the surface and make you look culpable in Trump's criminality by defending him.

Not a good look if you're trying to win a national election.
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Once you start hearings you can't just pull the plug or it will look like what it is -a political ploy absent any legal basis.

That's even more disastrous for Dems -full exposure of TDS absent cause
 
LV426 said:
We just need to get to impeachment hearings...that's all.

We don't even need a vote on impeachment in the House, we just need to hold hearings because it will force you to defend his actions, putting off 2020 voters, and drive Trump insane.

Trump and you Conservatives never react with restraint; impeachment will bring all your worst instincts to the surface and make you look culpable in Trump's criminality by defending him.

Not a good look if you're trying to win a national election.
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Yes you guys need John Dean to start the ball rolling!

"The former Richard Nixon White House counsel will testify before the House Judiciary Committee next week as part of a series of hearings about the Mueller report, offering Democrats a prime opportunity to further publicly highlight what a growing number of members believe to be impeachable offenses committed by President Donald Trump.

Democrats are increasingly split on opening an impeachment inquiry into Trump, as more members across Capitol Hill defy leadership's wishes and join their dozens of colleagues in advocating for such a proceeding—and they hope Dean can help their position and messaging"

https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-impeachment-democrats-john-dean

HOPE! LOL
 
LV426 said:
My Congressman already supports impeachment.
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no thanks to your efforts.
You need to get on the stick. Pelosi is jamming you up - I gave you a couple tasks,you are a smart guy?
So go for it!

ORGANIZE as we used to say of any efforts back in the Vietnam anti-war days; else it's just *blah blah*
 
anatta said:
Once you start hearings you can't just pull the plug or it will look like what it is -a political ploy absent any legal basis
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Impeachment is political.

Impeachment trials are held in the Senate, with a different standard of proof and evidence, and not in the Judicial system.

So, once again, you are bullshitting your way through a debate where you are clearly outclassed and uninformed.

We don't even need an impeachment vote because the hearings will drive Trump insane and force you to defend him.

Defending Trump isn't going to be a good campaign strategy for 2020.

Your blind support of Trump has painted you into a corner from which your only option is to defend Trump from what Mueller's report (that you still haven't read) says...and you and I both know that is impossible for you to do because he's guilty as shit, and you know it.

So that's why you put tasks upon me like "go vote impeachment then", knowing that I'm not a congressman so I can't submit impeachment proceedings; it's just your limp-dicked way of backing out of a debate you know you cannot win.

What a fucking loser.
 
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