Jobs Are Booming in Trump Country

Yes, obviously that's exactly what you're doing. The claim was that it was the worst recovery. There are all sorts of ways a recovery could be measured: its impact on median incomes, its impact on the poverty rate, its impact on the fiscal balance, its impact on job count, its impact on private debt, its impact on median net worths, its impact on secondary measures of social well-being, and so on. You selected a single measure: it's impact on real annual production. There's nothing wrong with that measure. It gives us one view of the quality of an economic recovery. But when that's ALL you want to look at then, obviously, you're cherry-picking.



Yes, I'm glad you brought up the Federal Reserve, since that's another factor to consider when judging the recovery. This wasn't a recovery super-charged by the Fed dropping interest rates, as during the Reagan or Bush recoveries. Quite the contrary -- at no point in the Obama presidency were interest rates lower than what he inherited, and the interest rate by the end of Obama's presidency was higher than what he'd inherited from Bush, which represents an additional external drag on the recovery -- but one that arguably put us on a stronger footing, in terms of fundamentals.



Actually, housing value growth in the Obama years was fairly typical, net. This wasn't a "bubble recovery" like the Bush years, when artificially high housing cost growth stimulated a lot of unsustainable activity in the construction sector, while also resulting in a huge flow of capital into the country from foreign investors, by way of those exotic securitized mortgage obligations. It was more of a "plain vanilla" fundamentals recovery. These days, though, we're back to having a sugar-rush, by way of rapidly increasing deficits and private debt. Conservatives like to pretend they care about that kind of thing, but only when the president is not from their masters' party.

Three rounds of QE. When have we ever had one round of QE prior? How are you comparing interest rates in the ‘80’s to what we’ve experienced over the past decade?

And you’re now denying we’ve had another Fed driven real estate bubble?
 
Your inability to think of a substantive response has been noted, and your ignominious defeat has been thoroughly enjoyed. It's always fun smacking you around.

Bringing up economic numbers is not a substantive resoonse? But arguing liberal good, conservative bad is? Ok, Oneuli
 
Onenuli, instead of me making assumptions and projecting what you believe i’ll just ask.

Do/did you support theee rounds of QE and the Fed keeping rates as low as they did for as long as they did.

Do you think the Fed should be holding rates were they are today or should they be raising or lowering them?

(These are aren’t gotcha questions)
 
Bringing up economic numbers is not a substantive resoonse?

Go back and reread the post to which I replied. It consisted, in its entirety, of the following:

"Wow!!!! Please never call others partisan or having their heads up someone's asses when you write what you just did. Dear Lord the ignorance."

As you can see, there were no economic numbers brought up. There was just a tacit and inadvertent admission of ignominious defeat.

But arguing liberal good, conservative bad is?

I never argued anything of the sort, as you know.
 
Yes, I'm glad you brought up the Federal Reserve, since that's another factor to consider when judging the recovery. This wasn't a recovery super-charged by the Fed dropping interest rates, as during the Reagan or Bush recoveries. Quite the contrary -- the interest rate by the end of Obama's presidency was higher than what he'd inherited from Bush, which represents an additional external drag on the recovery -- but one that arguably put us on a stronger footing, in terms of fundamentals.



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I'm being serious when I ask, you are not very bright are you?

And that's ok, but let's acknowledge that and we can proceed with saying we are trying to educate you, rather than argue, or berate you.

Obama operated almost entirely on ZERO interest rates, Heck I could have done that, maybe even you. That's playing with fake money.
But it can't maintain in an economy as complex as ours. Someone like Trump needed to step in and get us on some kind of sustainable footing. Which he did.

Acknowledge that FACT, and the fact that Trumps economy actually stands a chance of surviving over the long haul.
IF the democrat party would help a little we could go back to some very, very prosperous times, for everybody, top to bottom.
 
Another PROMISE KEPT; Pres.Trump has made LIFE BETTER for WORKING CLASS AMERICANS. Now, let's work on increasing working class pay, instead of FINANCIAL SECTOR (dominated by democrats) and BIG TECH (dominated by Democrats) pay increases.
We see who the "Party of the Elite" is...don't we?
Jobs Are Booming in Trump Country
Jobs are now growing at a faster rate in Trump country than they are in the Democratic-leaning urban and coastal areas that long had been a main driver of the U.S. economic expansion.
During the first 21 months of Donald Trump’s presidency, the 2,622 mostly rural and exurban counties he won in the 2016 election added jobs at twice the pace they did during the previous two years under the Obama administration and at a slightly higher rate than the 490 counties that supported Democrat Hillary Clinton.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...inning-on-job-growth-even-as-pay-gap-persists

Curious...what are the wages those jobs are getting?

Oh right, they're not growing.

So Trump is adding low-pay, low-skill jobs.

Wasn't that what y'all accused Obama of doing?
 
Curious...what are the wages those jobs are getting?

Oh right, they're not growing.

So Trump is adding low-pay, low-skill jobs.

Wasn't that what y'all accused Obama of doing?

could you take your stupid somewhere else, we were about to have a legitimate conversation.
you triggered panty wearing nut-bag
 
This has been the worst economic recovery since the Great Depression.

STOP, YOU FREAKING HACK.

1. It was also the worst economic collapse since the Great Depression, caused by the same deregulatory policies you champion on other threads, when it's convenient for you.

2. Conservatives refused to do anything to recover the economy. In fact, McConnell said his job was to deny Obama a second term (he failed there too)

3. Once Cons took control of the House after the 2010 elections, they passed nothing -NOTHING- to help recover the economy.

4. The only piece of legislation Conservatives got passed was the Sequester which did not help the economy.


1) i didn't vote for Drumpf

By voting for the joke candidate in Johnson, you were casting your vote for Trump. Voting Gary Johnson doesn't make you clever, or independent...it makes you a coward. OR it means you don't take this shit as seriously because you know your privilege insulates you from most of the policies either party puts forth.

So fucking lazy.
 
STOP, YOU FREAKING HACK.

1. It was also the worst economic collapse since the Great Depression, caused by the same deregulatory policies you champion on other threads, when it's convenient for you.

2. Conservatives refused to do anything to recover the economy. In fact, McConnell said his job was to deny Obama a second term (he failed there too)

3. Once Cons took control of the House after the 2010 elections, they passed nothing -NOTHING- to help recover the economy.

4. The only piece of legislation Conservatives got passed was the Sequester which did not help the economy.




By voting for the joke candidate in Johnson, you were casting your vote for Trump. Voting Gary Johnson doesn't make you clever, or independent...it makes you a coward. OR it means you don't take this shit as seriously because you know your privilege insulates you from most of the policies either party puts forth.

So fucking lazy.

Look who slinked back

How is your lawsuit against JPP progressing?

bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
 
2) I've spoken out against tariffs and trade wars since 2016

Great. Doesn't mean you understand either.


) even post an article a few weeks back on recession signs in the economy

So last year, when I was warning of a recession, you dismissed those concerns and told me I was being crazy.

Now, even you are seeing the imminence of a recession but are trying to act prescient when it's something I've been warning about for over a year.

So I'd like a little credit for your new position.
 
Another PROMISE KEPT; Pres.Trump has made LIFE BETTER for WORKING CLASS AMERICANS. Now, let's work on increasing working class pay, instead of FINANCIAL SECTOR (dominated by democrats) and BIG TECH (dominated by Democrats) pay increases.

We see who the "Party of the Elite" is...don't we?





Jobs Are Booming in Trump Country



Jobs are now growing at a faster rate in Trump country than they are in the Democratic-leaning urban and coastal areas that long had been a main driver of the U.S. economic expansion.

During the first 21 months of Donald Trump’s presidency, the 2,622 mostly rural and exurban counties he won in the 2016 election added jobs at twice the pace they did during the previous two years under the Obama administration and at a slightly higher rate than the 490 counties that supported Democrat Hillary Clinton.




https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...inning-on-job-growth-even-as-pay-gap-persists
LMFAO! Are you stupid, or just taking a page out of Dummkopf's playbook? Redact that which doesn't support your lies, and ignore all facts to the contrary.

Gotta love the delusions of trump supporters. Let's examine your article, starting with the top of the page, where you began your redactions.


Jobs Are Booming in Trump Country, But Pay Lags.
Then...

  • Expansion picks up in rural areas in Trump’s first two years
  • Blue America continues to lead on pay increases, GDP growth





Followed by:

OOOPS!!!

The Brookings data doesn’t capture the recent cost of the president’s trade conflicts on industries, such as agriculture and export-driven manufacturing, that Trump-supporting areas depend on. Trade tensions with China worsened with the administration’s announcement Monday that the U.S. plans to raise tariffs on Chinese goods at the end of the week as negotiations falter.
Why wouldn't the study take into account the $12billion that taxpayers had to pay for the soy farmers' Socialist bailout?

And the money shot:
“These remain modest shifts that don’t alter the fundamental structure of the economy with big, dense, blue places dominating high-value, high-productivity business activity,” Muro said.


At least Dummkopf can blame his delusions on years of opiate abuse. What's your excuse...liar?
 
(And to be clear I'm no economics expert. In fact I'm pretty dumb on the topic. But I can at least hold discussions on the subject beyond name calling over who people voted for)

That's not what you've been posturing on these boards.

You were touting your USC degree as somehow indicative of your knowledge on this subject.

We even got into it because you asked my education and I told you, and then you scoffed and didn't think it could possibly be true based on my responses to economic issues and news, but then you say right here you are dumb on the topic.

What a fucking fraud.

The destruction of the myth of cawacko's normalism has finally happened.
 
Come on archives, she has me nowhere. This has been the worst economic recovery since the Great Depression. We have not had 3% GDP growth in this country since 2005. That numbers have 'improved' means nothing if the numbers still aren't good. Sure, we always want numbers to get better but a number improving in and of itself means little if it's not good overall.

And interesting I have my head of conservatives asses according to her considering:

1) i didn't vote for Trump

2) I've spoken out against tariffs and trade wars since 2016

3) even post an article a few weeks back on recession signs in the economy

If I really had my head up conservatives asses I'd be like a lot of the posters here who's knowledge of economics extends to Obama good, Trump bad (or the reverse). (And to be clear I'm no economics expert. In fact I'm pretty dumb on the topic. But I can at least hold discussions on the subject beyond name calling over who people voted for)

Was the worse Recession since the Great Depression, and it was burdened with two wars and an unpaid drug prescription program

Again, not to beat it to death, but you are putting your entire argument into the GDP as being the sole economic indicator, which as "oneuli" has shown you isn't entirely correct. It is the totality of indicators that measures progress, and no matter how you want to read it, the overwhelming number so economic indicators were all pointing in the right direction beginning in 2010

Never refereed to you as a Trumpkin, a conservative, one of the few here, and it is not a question of which President was responsible, but rather boasting it is all Trump is wrong, Trump inherited an economy that had been moving forward for six years the day he took office
 
Curious...what are the wages those jobs are getting?

Too much of a lazy dumb fuck to look it up yourself asshat? Fuck off you pathetic low IQ dunce.

Oh right, they're not growing.

LIE and LAME. Fuck off you pathetic low IQ dunce.

So Trump is adding low-pay, low-skill jobs.

That was Obama you lying, pathetic, low IQ dumb fuck.

Wasn't that what y'all accused Obama of doing?

This from a moron who clamored this was a continuation of the Obama economy. You're not very smart or intelligent are you, you pathetic dumb fuck?
 
Yes, I'm glad you brought up the Federal Reserve, since that's another factor to consider when judging the recovery. This wasn't a recovery super-charged by the Fed dropping interest rates, as during the Reagan or Bush recoveries. Quite the contrary -- the interest rate by the end of Obama's presidency was higher than what he'd inherited from Bush, which represents an additional external drag on the recovery -- but one that arguably put us on a stronger footing, in terms of fundamentals.

Three rounds of QE is not considering the Fed super charging the economy? And the fact that Obama had interest rates at zero for most of his term and they were still under 1% when he left office means there was an external drag on the economy caused by the Fed?

This is absolutely amazing spin (it's outright false or lying, but we'll stick with the term spin). To the fact that it's almost very impressive.
 
More GREAT NEWS for AMERICANS, BAD NEWS FOR TREASON-O-CRATS:



Spending Power: Wage Gains Well Outpace Inflation



Both weekly and hourly wages increased at a 3.2% pace over the past year. Year-over-year wage gains are well outpacing inflation, which is good news for lower-income households that are seeing their spending power increase. Year-over-year gains in weekly wages have been north of 3% for over a year now.







https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/march-2019-jobs-report-analysis/card/1554468947
Idiot. That's because Democrats and Blue states have pushed for increased minimum wage.

Are you in favor?
 
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