Trump defends ‘a great general’ who fought against the U.S.: Robert E. Lee

JPF said:
Those charging up the hill in Gettysburg would likely disagree with the assessment.
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Look up how many died from both sides at Gettysburg. Keep in mind Lincoln offered Lee command of the army, Lee turned him down. Lee was loyal to his state, not the country.
 
RB 60 said:
That doesn't take away the fact that he was a great general.
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Yep, he was a traitor to his country. He and his fellow traitors led to the death if 600,000+ people.

You think being “a great general” balances that equation?
 
domer76 said:
Yep, he was a traitor to his country. He and his fellow traitors led to the death if 600,000+ people.

You think being “a great general” balances that equation?
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I didn't say it "balances that equation," did I? I said he was a great general. Don't imply anything more.
 
domer76 said:
Yep, he was a traitor to his country.
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Absolutely he was a traitor. I totally disagree with the people who want to keep the statues honoring southern rebels. Nevertheless, I think they should be able to hold their rallies (even though I absolutely disagree with their position) without antifa thugs (who didn't have a permit) coming to physically attack them.
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
You seriously believe that the Toadstool studied military tactics and in particular R.E. Lee's? Bwhahahahaha!

You guys are constantly telling us that context is everything. So here's the Toadstool, defending himself against righteous charges that he stuck up for Nazis and white supremacists, making it political about R.E. Lee. Okay then. Apparently there is no low to how low you all will crawl to make excuses for this POS.
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Sailor speaks for himself, no one else. Got it, good.
 
domer76 said:
He was treasonous to the United States. His “cause” led to the deaths of 600,000 people.
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Actually well over one million died. It's pretty ironic that Lincoln 'freed the slaves' so that they could die instead from starvation, cholera and smallpox. The North did little to help and it is well documented that Union soldiers were overtly racist and extremely brutal in their treatment of blacks.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2012/jun/16/slavery-starvation-civil-war
 
Stretch said:
The left has been fighting the "United" States for the past 2 years. They succumbed to Russia's division tactics.
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And oh, the irony of that.

They are projecting when they accuse Trump of dividing the country and this is a perfect example of it. Saying Robert E. Lee was a great general would elicit yawns as little as 5-6 years ago. Bloody hell, Lee WAS a great general.

As Trump alluded to, military people still study his tactics to this day. But the left has gone full-fascist with their mindless PC crap.
 
Sirthinksalot said:
It's not like the South was at a significant strategic disadvantage or anything. Totally even field. The Civil War was like a chess match. Whichever side had the better general was going to win, right?
:eyeroll:
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America had motherfucking George B. McClellan (D-NY). Obviously we did not have the better general.
 
domer76 said:
Yep, he was a traitor to his country. He and his fellow traitors led to the death if 600,000+ people.

You think being “a great general” balances that equation?
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And how many of those were white people who died fighting against slavery?

Trump’s statement wouldn’t be considered the least bit controversial until recently. What changed? And how far do we go with this madness?
 
Howard the Duck said:
People are better off under slavery.
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From the Guardian article:

But, as Downs shows in his book, Sick From Freedom, the reality of emancipation during the chaos of war and its bloody aftermath often fell brutally short of that positive image. Instead, freed slaves were often neglected by union soldiers or faced rampant disease, including horrific outbreaks of smallpox and cholera. Many of them simply starved to death.

After combing through obscure records, newspapers and journals Downs believes that about a quarter of the four million freed slaves either died or suffered from illness between 1862 and 1870. He writes in the book that it can be considered "the largest biological crisis of the 19th century" and yet it is one that has been little investigated by contemporary historians.

Downs believes much of that is because at the time of the civil war, which raged between 1861 and 1865 and pitted the unionist north against the confederate south, many people did not want to investigate the tragedy befalling the freed slaves. Many northerners were little more sympathetic than their southern opponents when it came to the health of the freed slaves and anti-slavery abolitionists feared the disaster would prove their critics right.
 
JPF said:
The ones who were not cut down….those that were mowed down were probably less confused on the topic.
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please don't double down on ignorance every man in battle knew and accepted the risks.

You could have critiqued Picketts Charge -there is a lot of criticism available to rebuff Lee's decision but you didn't.
 
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