Trump's degenerate Saudis go on another execution binge

MBS brought to a "screeching halt"?
what's the chances Wahhabi gets reformed/watered down ( i'm asking what's the chances for more reform)

Well, about 10 years ago the young clerics who are also better educated announced with the King's approval that much of what passed for Islam was in fact just old tribal customs. You know that KSA stagnated horribly during the Ottoman Empire and literacy was practically nil..

Its changing. There is nothing inherently malevolent about Wahhabi beliefs.. They are conservative and the reason for it was to get rid of the innovations introduced by the Ottomans and get the Turks off the Arabian peninsula. The objective was to simplify Islam.


I think reforms will continue.. They have a HUGE number of graduate studies scholarships in everything from Law to Economics to Medicine and Engineering.. I think the number was 250,000.. to do graduate level studies abroad. Plus, about ten years ago they started a campaign to quit rote education and encourage critical thinking.


Plus, they have a young population.. The demographic of Saudis under 50 is just huge and they are ready for a softer version.


KSA took a giant step backwards in 1979 when the Grand Mosque was under siege and Iran went radical with the overthrow of the Shah.. Its scared the bejesus out of the Saudis.


The SAG is committed to the people and their welfare now and in the future.. I am pretty confident they will continue on the path they have been on since 1950.. and I think change with be somewhat faster.
 
You actually think I would applaud the beheading of Christians- or are you just pissed because I made you look so foolish over your claim that Palestinians do not exist ?

Yes I do, and you make yourself look foolish every time you claim Palestinians are anything but arabs!
 
It's an utter disgrace that the president of the United States should wallow in blood and shit with these mediaeval throwbacks. Trump has regressed the reputation of all Americans and elevated the worst aspects of American brutality and greed.

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Are you implying that Droneman was an asshole too ?

I am again stating that you can post about every former President since at least Kennedy that they didn't convince the Saudi's to stop executions and that they all had photo ops with the Royals.

So the OP is a bit odd.
 
Yes I do, and you make yourself look foolish every time you claim Palestinians are anything but arabs!

Of course they are Arabs.. They certainly aren't Europeans. The Palestinians have been around since the Roman occupation of Palestine.
 
Of course they are Arabs.. They certainly aren't Europeans. The Palestinians have been around since the Roman occupation of Palestine.

They've actually been around since the neolithic- they just weren't called 'Palestinians' back then.
 
Yes I do, and you make yourself look foolish every time you claim Palestinians are anything but arabs!

Just point out any instance of my claiming that Palestinians are not Arabs. When you can't find one I suggest that you pull your head out of your ass and fuck off.
 
I am again stating that you can post about every former President since at least Kennedy that they didn't convince the Saudi's to stop executions and that they all had photo ops with the Royals.

So the OP is a bit odd.

There are ' photo ops '- and then there are graphic records of the POTUS engaging in a sword dance with a crowd of proven murderers. " Odd " ? Not at all.
 
There are ' photo ops '- and then there are graphic records of the POTUS engaging in a sword dance with a crowd of proven murderers. " Odd " ? Not at all.

"A crowd of proven murderers"?

Moon, you've lost it. How do you feel about the murder of Rafic Hariri?
 
"A crowd of proven murderers"?

Moon, you've lost it. How do you feel about the murder of Rafic Hariri?

kudzu- the Sauds have already put their hand up to killing and dismembering Khashoggi . That's proof enough for anybody except a devout House of Saud worshipper.
 
kudzu- the Sauds have already put their hand up to killing and dismembering Khashoggi . That's proof enough for anybody except a devout House of Saud worshipper.


Moon, you have hated and trashed the Saudis long before Khashoggi disappeared. Why? And, why are you afraid to identify your nationality?
 
My standpoint is that the woman concerned gets to choose. It's her body and it belongs to nobody else.

That is what makes you a moron! Murderers make decisions to take someones life they choose, but hey don't take theirs. Babies? no choice!
 
Moon, you have hated and trashed the Saudis long before Khashoggi disappeared. Why? And, why are you afraid to identify your nationality?

I've said on numerous occasions that the Sauds are complicit in the plight of the Palestinians. In response you've repeated Saudi lip-service and quoted monetary hand-outs. Neither can conceal the Saudi guilt.

I don't 'fear' disclosing that which I don't revere. I'm Libyan. Next week I'll be a Chagos Islander.
 
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