Here who's winning under Trump Tax Law

Wrong, it remains the same, likelihood will increase, the more the givers pay the more the takers have to take And again incorrect, the people leaving NY are those that couldn't make it in NY, plus the snowbirds, most retuning this month, and what you fail to comprehend is that NY, as probably most Blue States, have levels of services attained thru those State taxes. The infrastructure alone is an example, and such as Alabama health insurance isn't allowed in NY

So you say, anchovies. Governor Cuomo is already crying about all the New Yorkers who are bailing out for Red State Florida to escape DEMOCRAT taxes.

He told his state's citizens that income tax revenues were coming in $2.3 billion below the expectations of just a month ago. "That's as serious as a heart attack," he said.

He's right. The question is why?

A little budget talk is in order. New York plans to spend about $176 billion in the coming fiscal year, starting April 1. About $100 billion of that will come from federal funds.

That means the actual deficit in state funding after just one month is 3%. Cuomo says it's due to the new federal tax code, which limits state income tax deductions to $10,000, and recent volatility in the stock market.

"I don't believe raising taxes on the rich," Cuomo said. "That would be the worst thing to do. You would just expand the shortfall. God forbid if the rich leave."

He's absolutely correct, though he'll no doubt get royally roasted by the far-left of the New York DEMOCRAT Party. The state already has a steeply progressive tax code. The top 1% of earners pay 46% of all the income taxes. That's punitive.

In support of his comments, Cuomo cited evidence that showed high-income earners are leaving the high-tax Empire State for other low-tax states.

Just last month, United Van Lines released its 42nd annual "National Movers Study," which tracks comings and goings from all the states.

Last year, the study said, 61.5% of New York movers left the state; just 38.5% moved in. Among those who left, 41% earned $150,000 or more. Just 8.4% earned less than $50,000.

From 2010 to mid-2017, New York had a net outmigration of over 1 million people, more than any other state. No, they're not all rich. But many are.

And recent changes in the deductibility of federal taxes certainly hasn't helped high-tax states like New York. The wealthy have choices that others don't.

Last year, a study by Wallet Hub looked at states ranked by their total tax burden. New York came out on top. Our own report compared the Wallet Hub data with Census data from 2007 to 2016. New York lost 1.3 million citizens, more even than California, which lost just under a million, and Illinois.

Recent changes in the deductibility of federal taxes certainly hasn't helped high-tax states like New York. As we said, the wealthy have choices that others don't. One of those choices is to move if taxes become not merely burdensome, but punitive. That's what's happening in New York.

By the way, we also compared the Wallet Hub data with the states that were gaining population, and lo and behold: Five low-tax states — Texas, Florida, North Carolina, South Carolina and Washington — gained the most population.

In short, high taxes drive people away; low taxes attract them. It's simple economics, yet so many Blue States don't get it.

Cuomo, to his credit, does get it. Many high-income taxpayers are leaving New York for low-tax states, tired of paying the state's bills and then being demonized leftist activists for being "rich" and told they must give more. He knows that sending the wrong signals could lead to a mass exodus of higher-income residents from his state, one that would leave a massive hole in the budget.

That's the road to fiscal insolvency. When those who pay the bills leave, the bills no longer get paid.

It's an important lesson for other big, blue states dependent on wealthy taxpayers — we're talking to you, Left-Coast California — if they're smart enough to learn it.


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You know I'm right, and you're panicking, aren't you?
 
Tell that to the Red States living off the Gov't tit paid for by the Blue States Most Blue States aren't going Red there "copy," and on top of that, most Blue State Republicans would be called Socialists in ruby Red States

Cling to that delusion, anchovies. Keep pressing for higher taxes and increased government spending. I want you to. Do my bidding.
 
The fact is that even if DEMOCRATS confiscated the wealth of the 400 richest Americans, spending has to be cut.

Do you understand anything the Trump Administration is doing? With a good economy, a time when the Gov't shouldn't have to add currency to the economy, Trump is spending like a bandit running up deficits

https://www.forbes.com/sites/chuckj...t-deficit-with-a-strong-economy/#20f3aa0049d1

He is basically looking for the short term gain regardless of the long term effect, so don't talk to us about "spending has to be cut," it is only a hypocrisy coming from a Trumpkin
 
So you say, anchovies. Governor Cuomo is already crying about all the New Yorkers who are bailing out for Red State Florida to escape DEMOCRAT taxes.

He told his state's citizens that income tax revenues were coming in $2.3 billion below the expectations of just a month ago. "That's as serious as a heart attack," he said.

He's right. The question is why?

A little budget talk is in order. New York plans to spend about $176 billion in the coming fiscal year, starting April 1. About $100 billion of that will come from federal funds.

That means the actual deficit in state funding after just one month is 3%. Cuomo says it's due to the new federal tax code, which limits state income tax deductions to $10,000, and recent volatility in the stock market.

"I don't believe raising taxes on the rich," Cuomo said. "That would be the worst thing to do. You would just expand the shortfall. God forbid if the rich leave."

He's absolutely correct, though he'll no doubt get royally roasted by the far-left of the New York DEMOCRAT Party. The state already has a steeply progressive tax code. The top 1% of earners pay 46% of all the income taxes. That's punitive.

In support of his comments, Cuomo cited evidence that showed high-income earners are leaving the high-tax Empire State for other low-tax states.

Just last month, United Van Lines released its 42nd annual "National Movers Study," which tracks comings and goings from all the states.

Last year, the study said, 61.5% of New York movers left the state; just 38.5% moved in. Among those who left, 41% earned $150,000 or more. Just 8.4% earned less than $50,000.

From 2010 to mid-2017, New York had a net outmigration of over 1 million people, more than any other state. No, they're not all rich. But many are.

And recent changes in the deductibility of federal taxes certainly hasn't helped high-tax states like New York. The wealthy have choices that others don't.

Last year, a study by Wallet Hub looked at states ranked by their total tax burden. New York came out on top. Our own report compared the Wallet Hub data with Census data from 2007 to 2016. New York lost 1.3 million citizens, more even than California, which lost just under a million, and Illinois.

Recent changes in the deductibility of federal taxes certainly hasn't helped high-tax states like New York. As we said, the wealthy have choices that others don't. One of those choices is to move if taxes become not merely burdensome, but punitive. That's what's happening in New York.

By the way, we also compared the Wallet Hub data with the states that were gaining population, and lo and behold: Five low-tax states — Texas, Florida, North Carolina, South Carolina and Washington — gained the most population.

In short, high taxes drive people away; low taxes attract them. It's simple economics, yet so many Blue States don't get it.

Cuomo, to his credit, does get it. Many high-income taxpayers are leaving New York for low-tax states, tired of paying the state's bills and then being demonized leftist activists for being "rich" and told they must give more. He knows that sending the wrong signals could lead to a mass exodus of higher-income residents from his state, one that would leave a massive hole in the budget.

That's the road to fiscal insolvency. When those who pay the bills leave, the bills no longer get paid.

It's an important lesson for other big, blue states dependent on wealthy taxpayers — we're talking to you, Left-Coast California — if they're smart enough to learn it.


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You know I'm right, and you're panicking, aren't you?

No, and no, what the Governor is doing is embarrassing Scott when he made the same inane arguement you are attempting
 
No, and no, what the Governor is doing is embarrassing Scott when he made the same inane arguement you are attempting

I showed you evidence, anchovies, but I don't want you to admit it.

You're in denial, anchovies. Please keep deluding yourself, and convince other DEMOCRATS to keep demanding high taxes and increased spending.

I want you to do this.

Do my bidding.
 
Do you understand anything the Trump Administration is doing? With a good economy, a time when the Gov't shouldn't have to add currency to the economy, Trump is spending like a bandit running up deficits He is basically looking for the short term gain regardless of the long term effect, so don't talk to us about "spending has to be cut," it is only a hypocrisy coming from a Trumpkin

So you say, anchovies. This goes way beyond Trump and cuts to the core of responsible government - don't spend any more of the people's money than you need to.

Once Blue Staters (the ones who aren't already moving to Red States) realize how much DEMOCRATS are taking from them in tax dollars to fund social welfare programs, I don't think they'll want the runaway spending to continue.

But, please, keep pretending everything will be OK for the party of the jackass, anchovies.

Do my bidding.
 
Not delusion, fact, even gave your man "earl" the proof up above, statistics don't lie

So you say, anchovies. I don't want you to believe that people who are being taxed to support DEMOCRAT spending might demand change now that they can't deduct 100% of SALT anymore.

I want you to tell yourself and other DEMOCRATS that high taxes and high spending are the core values of the jackass party and fight for them ceaselessly.

Do my bidding.
 
Maybe you should go to his house and "dance"with him to verify.

I don't accept anecdotal evidence, MB, and the burden of proof lies with the claimant. I'm under no obligation to go anywhere to prove anyone's claims, and neither are you.

If a claim is posted on the forum, the proof to back it up should be posted on the forum.
 
I don't think you do get it, Grumps. Anecdotes aren't evidence.



So you say, Grumps. So you say.

Ok you got me I'm worth 17 billion and most of the refunds will go to me and my country club pals. Gotta go having dinner at the White House with my good friend the Don, as we jet setters call him.
 
Ok you got me I'm worth 17 billion and most of the refunds will go to me and my country club pals. Gotta go having dinner at the White House with my good friend the Don, as we jet setters call him.

That's as believable as any other anecdotal claim, Grumps. Are you getting it, now?
 
I showed you evidence, anchovies, but I don't want you to admit it.

You're in denial, anchovies. Please keep deluding yourself, and convince other DEMOCRATS to keep demanding high taxes and increased spending.

I want you to do this.

Do my bidding.

Faked evidence most likely.
 
So you say, anchovies. This goes way beyond Trump and cuts to the core of responsible government - don't spend any more of the people's money than you need to.

Once Blue Staters (the ones who aren't already moving to Red States) realize how much DEMOCRATS are taking from them in tax dollars to fund social welfare programs, I don't think they'll want the runaway spending to continue.

But, please, keep pretending everything will be OK for the party of the jackass, anchovies.

Do my bidding.

no evidence of mass migration to Red states, like you say Legion Anecdotes aren't proof.
 
I don't accept anecdotal evidence, MB, and the burden of proof lies with the claimant. I'm under no obligation to go anywhere to prove anyone's claims, and neither are you.

If a claim is posted on the forum, the proof to back it up should be posted on the forum.

Then why do you do it?
 
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