Warren's platform - Reparations for the black folk and Abolish the Electoral college

Reparations don't have to be in the form of just money they can be in the form of EQUALITY!

Being free to walk down the street while Black is a start.
 
iolo said:
Agreed. What should happen is that all those proved to be descended from slave-owners should be deprived of all property and enslaved for five years to work for the public good. It would. of course, be as senseless as the original institution, but at least include all 'races'! Help you to understand the Constitution, I expect! :)
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Equality of opportunity is the goal, not equality of outcome. Equality of outcome results in everyone being equally poor. As in Venezuela (except the Socialist leaders, they appear to be doing well).
 
Warren did not say she was pro reparations. Only that due to all the conversation going on, it is time to have a serious discussion about it. Reparations are far too complicated to settle. I don't think it is possible. But talking about it is reasonable.
 
Nordberg said:
Warren did not say she was pro reparations. Only that due to all the conversation going on, it is time to have a serious discussion about it. Reparations are far too complicated to settle. I don't think it is possible. But talking about it is reasonable.
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Talking about it is moronic.
 
Truth Detector said:
Because I believe in the process. What are your thoughts on proportioning the votes instead of winner takes all in California? It would better represent people like me to know some of their votes are going towards my candidates electoral count.

I know what the liberal left would say......fuck democracy!
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That's a valid point.
 
Nordberg said:
Warren did not say she was pro reparations. Only that due to all the conversation going on, it is time to have a serious discussion about it. Reparations are far too complicated to settle. I don't think it is possible. But talking about it is reasonable.
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I agree.

The Jews got reparations and we send billions to Israel. Why not help Black Americans establish the equality they deserve?
 
TTQ64 said:
I agree.
The Jews got reparations and we send billions to Israel. Why not help Black Americans establish the equality they deserve?
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They got them from Germans who enslaved them and murdered them by the millions.

America paid dearly to end slavery giving up 620,000 lives and the costs of rebuilding an entire nation. The debt was paid a very long time ago.

We elected a black President with an Islamic name only a few short years ago. The notion that racism is prevalent and still no better than in 1865 is asinine, a lie and lacks even the most basic common sense.
 
Truth Detector said:
If there is any remaining doubt about how stupid someone like Warren is, this should remove any lingering doubt. :

Warren supports a study on reparations and elimination of the electoral college

Warren first voiced support for reparations last month, becoming one of three 2020 Democratic candidates to do so.
https://www.latimes.com/politics/la...rations-electoral-college-20190319-story.html

Let there be no doubt; this is a moronic platform and will do NOTHING to better the situation many black communities are facing. This is an effort to pander to an electorate Warren views as idiots.

She really thinks that blacks should remain on their Democratically controlled plantations and be happy for the crumbs the Party of the Jackass is willing to throw them. What the black community really needs is a huge blast of cold water and the truth: you cannot expect better if you ignore single parent teen pregnancies, drugs and low graduation rates.

She bloviates on......

Warren also came out in favor of eliminating of the electoral college, the most pointed instance of her opposition to the polarizing mechanism the nation uses to elect its presidents.

She has been critical of the electoral college in the past, saying last year that Trump’s 2016 victory — despite Democrat Hillary Clinton’s winning 3 million more total votes — is “not exactly the sign of a healthy democracy.”

This illustrates the glaring ignorance that liberals like Warren have of our Constitutional Republic and why we have an electoral college. But Fascistic ingrates like Warren don't care about mundane things like States rights. Instead, they know that with a popular vote, they would have a strangle hold on the Presidency for a millennia.

She, and many Fascistic liberals like her, would be fine with a few populous blue states filled with dependent wards dictating to the rest of the country who would be President. It most certainly would make campaigning simpler and cheaper. Heck, Republicans wouldn't even need to try!

Warren is representative of just how the Democratic Party of the Jackass is desirous of turning this once great nation into a Fascist, one party third world shit hole.

We, the people, should send a resounding message to the Democratic Party of the Jackass in 2020: NO THANK YOU!
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I think we should do an electoral college 2.0. First off, replace all those electors with just points. No need to worry if an elector is going to do his own thing anymore. Second, distribute the electoral points of each state proportional to the percent of the vote won in that state. This will encourage candidates to campaign in non-swing states rather than completely focusing on only a few states.
 
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I think we should do an electoral college 2.0. First off, replace all those electors with just points. No need to worry if an elector is going to do his own thing anymore. Second, distribute the electoral points of each state proportional to the percent of the vote won in that state. This will encourage candidates to campaign in non-swing states rather than completely focusing on only a few states.
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I don't know about the first point but definitely approve of the second.
 
Jack said:
'One Man, One Vote' ... works for Senators. Why not Presidents?
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No, it doesn't work for Senators. Originally, Senators were elected by State assemblies and we should go back to that. The majority of U.S. citizens are banned from voting for individual senators. If, as you claim, you don't believe in States rights or representation, ... then you should be consistent and true to your principles ... and call for the abolishing of the Senate.
 
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TTQ64 said:
I agree.

The Jews got reparations and we send billions to Israel. Why not help Black Americans establish the equality they deserve?
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Just as long as black Americans pay me for my ancestors who fought in the civil war to free them. Fair is fair, right?
 
Nordberg said:
Warren did not say she was pro reparations. Only that due to all the conversation going on, it is time to have a serious discussion about it. Reparations are far too complicated to settle. I don't think it is possible. But talking about it is reasonable.
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Talking about what exactly?
 
Bigdog said:
No, it doesn't work for Senators. The majority of U.S. citizens are banned from voting for individual senators. If, as you claim, you don't believe in States rights or representation, ... then you should be consistent and true to your principles ... and call for the abolishing of the Senate.
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Bigdog: "The majority of U.S. citizens are banned from voting for individual senators."
Jack: Really?
 
Jack said:
Bigdog: "The majority of U.S. citizens are banned from voting for individual senators."
Jack: Really?
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Yes, that is correct, Jack. Just being a U.S. citizens does not give you the right to vote for 'any" senator, ... now does it? :palm:

And obviously, the Senate gives more power to people living in low pop. States. According to your purported principles ... that gives some people's vote "more weight" than others. How can you support such "injustice" ... when it undermines your one man one vote principle.
 
Bigdog said:
Yes, that is correct, Jack. Just being a U.S. citizens does not give you the right to vote for 'any" senator, ... now does it? :palm:

And obviously, the Senate gives more power to people living in low pop. States. According to your purported principles ... that gives some people's vote "more weight" than others. How can you support such "injustice" ... when it undermines your one man one vote principle.
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"Voters have elected their senators in the privacy of the voting booth since 1913. The framers of the Constitution, however, did not intend senators to be elected in this way, and included in Article I, section 3, "The Senate of the United States shall be composed of two Senators from each state, chosen by the legislature thereof for six Years; and each Senator shall have one Vote." The election of delegates to the Constitutional Convention established the precedent for state selection. The framers believed that in electing senators, state legislatures would cement their tie with the national government, which would increase the chances for ratifying the Constitution. They also expected that senators elected by state legislatures would be able to concentrate on the business at hand without pressure from the populace."
https://www.senate.gov/artandhistory/history/common/briefing/Direct_Election_Senators.htm

Spin, dance and twirl Bigdog.
 
Jack said:
"Voters have elected their senators in the privacy of the voting booth since 1913. The framers of the Constitution, however, did not intend senators to be elected in this way, and included in Article I, section 3, "The Senate of the United States shall be composed of two Senators from each state, chosen by the legislature thereof for six Years; and each Senator shall have one Vote." The election of delegates to the Constitutional Convention established the precedent for state selection. The framers believed that in electing senators, state legislatures would cement their tie with the national government, which would increase the chances for ratifying the Constitution. They also expected that senators elected by state legislatures would be able to concentrate on the business at hand without pressure from the populace."
https://www.senate.gov/artandhistory/history/common/briefing/Direct_Election_Senators.htm

Spin, dance and twirl Bigdog.
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I'm well aware of the FF's original intentions, ... that is NOT a rebuttal.

Why should One Man's vote be worth more than another man's vote, Jack? How does that even square with your purported "principles"?
 
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