The solution for healthcare that will never be instituted

Robo said:
Don't blame me Frank that you want the worst possible anti-freedom, bankrupting kind of health insurance for America and you're about to take that propagandized uninformed wish to your grave!!!
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I won't "blame" you for anything...including the denseness of your head.

America has the worst healthcare system in the industrialized world...and no one from any other of the industrialized nations would ever trade theirs for ours.

Continue to dream. The system now in place is headed for the sewer it so richly deserves.
 
Robo said:
I have thought about it extensively! America’s health CARE is great! America’s health INSURANCE sucks!!! That’s why I posted the OP and it’s constitutional solution, which you have ignored and been unable to discredit or debunk!!!
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Your "solution" is already happening; each state regulates insurance differently. That's what you want, right?
 
Legion said:
He tries to portray himself as an "expert", and then humiliates himself when his ignorance is exposed.
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Then maybe next time he will be better informed. If there is an exception to every rule, more likely than not it will be either Louisiana or the Old BlackFace Dominion :thinking:
 
PoliTalker said:
"I think it makes the most sense for health care to have the goal of making the most people as healthy as possible instead of making the already rich as rich as possible. "

Hello Robo,

If that were the goal of health care we would not have a shortage of GP's coming out of medical school. Specialists make more money. Seems like most of them are 'specializing' in dollar-ectomies.
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Who needs a GP? They can’t even cure the common cold, they just write ya a referral for a specialist. Eliminate the middle man!!!

If that were the goal then medical school would not be elite. The number of graduates from major league schools with massive endowments would not be capped at the same levels they had when the population was half what it is today. These institutions would serve SOCIETY, not the rich.
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That’s why sooooo many foreigners come to America’s medical institutions of learning, huh?

Most of our current health care system, from the ground up, is focused on generating profits, raising the take for top health care workers, and keeping the top ranks exclusive. It's like they climbed the ladder of success and then pulled it up after themselves.
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That’s why doctors from Canada and other Single Payer countries come to America to practice medicine. Just rewards for long strenuous hours of education training and overtime practice. I can just see salaried nine to five doctors in a single payer American system fleeing the country for Mexico!!!! How about you?
 
Frank Apisa said:
I won't "blame" you for anything...including the denseness of your head.

America has the worst healthcare system in the industrialized world...and no one from any other of the industrialized nations would ever trade theirs for ours.

Continue to dream. The system now in place is headed for the sewer it so richly deserves.
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Yada, yada, yada Frankie!!!
 
LV426 said:
Your "solution" is already happening; each state regulates insurance differently. That's what you want, right?
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The problem is the feds have the loot they take from the state's taxpayers and they regulate everything in every state without constitutional authority whenever they give a dime back.
 
Robo said:
The problem is the feds have the loot they take from the state's taxpayers and they regulate everything in every state without constitutional authority whenever they give a dime back.
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They don't regulate everything in the state. The state regulates its own insurance market. That is what you want. That is what is already happening. That is why you're so mad about insurance. There isn't a uniform regulation across all the states that allows for out-of-state plans to compete in markets that are regulated differently because you want states to regulate their insurance markets on their own.

It's like you're trying to be wrong about this.

What you want is for an Anthem plan from CA to be sold in the TN market, but you don't want that CA plan to conform with TN's market regulations. So what you actually want is federalism.
 
Robo said:
Who needs a GP? They can’t even cure the common cold, they just write ya a referral for a specialist. Eliminate the middle man!!!
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Hey - here's an experiment; try going to a specialist without a GP referral in your insurance plan. You can't. Insurers require you to see a GP before you go to a specialist, and only specialists in your provider network.

Single payer eliminates provider networks.


Robo said:
That’s why sooooo many foreigners come to America’s medical institutions of learning, huh?
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Why did you invoke this in response to this:
If that were the goal then medical school would not be elite. The number of graduates from major league schools with massive endowments would not be capped at the same levels they had when the population was half what it is today. These institutions would serve SOCIETY, not the rich.
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That’s why doctors from Canada and other Single Payer countries come to America to practice medicine. Just rewards for long strenuous hours of education training and overtime practice. I can just see salaried nine to five doctors in a single payer American system fleeing the country for Mexico!!!! How about you?
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Doctors aren't fleeing Canada for the US. What a load of horseshit.

What is happening is Conservatives like Rand Paul are going to Canada for health care because their doctors are better.
 
Hello Robo,

Robo said:
Who needs a GP? They can’t even cure the common cold, they just write ya a referral for a specialist. Eliminate the middle man!!!
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An absurd argument which would not be very popular at all.

Robo said:
That’s why sooooo many foreigners come to America’s medical institutions of learning, huh?
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Training doctors should be about the goal of creating the healthiest populace.

Robo said:
That’s why doctors from Canada and other Single Payer countries come to America to practice medicine. Just rewards for long strenuous hours of education training and overtime practice. I can just see salaried nine to five doctors in a single payer American system fleeing the country for Mexico!!!! How about you?
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Thanks for making the point about how many doctors are in it primarily for the money. We need doctors who are dedicated to results. Sadly, our medical providers generally get paid the same thing whether the patient has a good outcome or not.
 
10DayUserName said:
Then maybe next time he will be better informed. If there is an exception to every rule, more likely than not it will be either Louisiana or the Old BlackFace Dominion :thinking:
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Claiming that Insurance Commissioners are "elected" when 39 states out of 50 don't elect them is hardly a minor error.

LV426 said:
Each state (+ DC) has a state insurance commissioner that is elected by the people of that state, to regulate insurance in the state.
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:rofl2:
 
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