An Idea for Immigration

let's clear away the manufactured panic over illegal immigration.
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you'll have to start by defending this idiotic claim.........how can there be eleven million illegals here and not be a problem?......
 
PostmodernProphet said:
if you want to debate, take the time to type out what you want to say.....
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I did. I provided it in summary form. Go back and reread. If you need more detail, I can provide that, too. But the wingnuts don't seem to care to engage on the substance at all, so I'm not going to write a book they'll never read.
 
PostmodernProphet said:
I've always been puzzled by posters who want you to debate videos........when ever you do listen to them and comment they always say, "oh, that wasn't the point I was making"..........if you want to debate, take the time to type out what you want to say.....
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This from a poster who leaves dangling participles nearly every time he enters
 
Oneuli said:
To get it out of the way, some will be tempted to reply "tl;dr" and move on. Consider it done and save yourself the time. But for those willing to put in some time and thought, here's an idea for addressing our real immigration issues.

First, let's clear away the manufactured panic over illegal immigration. You may not know it from watching Fox News, but there's no actual border crisis. Illegal immigration in this country has fallen greatly from its peak back in the Clinton years. And, anecdotes of individual criminal acts by illegal immigrants notwithstanding,
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When you start a thread so dishonestly, why should anyone take you seriously? Serious question.
 
Getin the ring said:
that's a joke right?

I quit reading when she said illegal immigration is not a problem, kind of hard to get past stone cold nut-bag talk
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Exactly. I'm sure the families of Kate Steinley, and Ronil Singh, and countless others, feel the murder of their loved ones by illegal aliens was merely, "anecdotal". It really doesn't get any lower than that. What kind of evil scumbag would actually say that out loud? Wow.....
 
I find it laughable when dishonest morons on the liberal left declare that we do not have an ILLEGAL immigration problem. It is almost as ignorant and lame as claiming that a wall will do nothing to stop it.

But let's remember, we are dealing with dishonest leftist Fascist assholes with an agenda to turn this great country into a third world shit hole. They use lies and strawmen and change the dialogue from ILLEGAL immigrants to "undocumented immigrants".

We certainly do have a problem in this country. It is an ideological cancer that threatens the very existence of America. It is one that promotes laziness, criminality and demagoguery supplanting facts, the truth and reality.

The Democratic Party of the Jackass used to be concerned with border security and declared they were when they held Congressional power and promised reform during the Reagan years. Thirty years later, they still choose to do nothing and see uneducated hoards from third world shit holes as the perfect DNC constituency. Why else would they CHOOSE to fight a President trying to do his constitutional duty over what amounts to a trifle .065% of the Federal Budget?

There is only ONE reason for such moronic partisan chicanery; and that is, to try to prevent a President from carrying out his agenda even when it makes perfect sense for purely partisan purposes that harm Americans.

The hypocrisy is complete; during Obamunism these same partisan shills whined about obstructing Obama's agenda. Now, obstruction is a good thing for the sake of obstructing. Lying is okay. Deflecting is okay. Impugning this Presidency and our election systems are okay. Demagoguery is okay.

This is the new low the Democratic Party of the Jackass are willing to stoop because they refuse to accept the results of an election and have a dishonest FAKE media to promote their Fascist ideological views.

We do have a MASSIVE illegal alien problem. There are many documented cases of criminality and murder by these illegals. They break our laws and thumb their noses at them simply by being here illegally. That is a FACT. Arguing that citizens do it is not only weak, but asinine.

We can solve it. First, by not having "sanctuary" cities and ignoring our laws, and actually enforcing the laws we have. Secondly, by ensuring that areas that are easily accessible have a barrier to entry to prevent easy illegal crossings. Thirdly, by having an internet based system of approving LEGAL immigration and Green Card users and when finding abuse, tracking them down and deporting them with no chance of re-entry.

Employers should have a database they can access to verify the credentials being presented to ensure that the individuals applying for work actually are legally entitled including a photo. This is simple and easy to do. The data also ensures that if someone continues working here with an expired visa, and are paying taxes, that they be flagged for removal and it usually entails a visit to the last known address of the taxpayer or the employer.

EVERYONE can agree to the above except for dishonest actors who don't care about illegal immigration, but rather, an agenda that leads to the further destruction and decline of our nation.
 
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Cornelius said:
so essentially we let third world shitholers extort us or else they'll just come into our country anyway with a dumber IQ and poor skills and shit in our streets, so we better give them money. nice plan.
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Yet another conservative demonstrating his pride in his lower IQ.

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Oneuli said:
As a reminder, my top post wasn't about ending all immigration. You responded by calling for us to "end all immigration." I explained why that would be a bad idea. Then you had a little meltdown about me supposedly wanting to speak of immigration and not illegal immigration.... when I was merely responding to your policy proposal as you positioned it. You seem to have lost track of the debate.
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Righties are incapable of participating in an actual discussion. It would require them to be able to read, and understand ideas and concepts that are outside their limited bubble.

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archives said:
Interesting, and the economic arguement makes sense, but it would never pass the right's demagogues attacks making it realistically impossible

However, why place the school in Mexico rather than on the American side of the border? You can process, train, and Americanize immigrants as they enter the country rather than containing them in Mexico?
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It would probably be far cheaper to operate such a facility in Mexico.

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Oneuli said:
I did. I provided it in summary form. Go back and reread. If you need more detail, I can provide that, too. But the wingnuts don't seem to care to engage on the substance at all, so I'm not going to write a book they'll never read.
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They're largely incapable of understanding or responding rationally to your proposal.

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im·mi·grate
[ˈiməˌɡrāt]

VERB
NORTH AMERICAN
come to live permanently in a foreign country.
"the Mennonites immigrated to western Canada in the 1870s"
synonyms:
migrate · move overseas · move abroad · relocate · resettle · defect
 
em·i·grate
[ˈeməˌɡrāt]

VERB
leave one's own country in order to settle permanently in another.
"Rosa's parents emigrated from Argentina"
synonyms:
move abroad · move overseas · leave one's country · migrate · relocate · resettle · start a new life · defect



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