The 'Islamophobia' problem

[Legion]

Dearborn MI has a lot of Arab-Americans who are both Christian and Muslim but not half the population. How have the Muslims in the English towns affected them?

You mean the Muslim pedophile rape gangs?

Google "Rotherham."

 

[christiefan915]

I'm shocked!

Why? You know I'm against terrorism and killing, no matter whose.

 

[christiefan915]

You mean the Muslim pedophile rape gangs?

Google "Rotherham."

That is very, very ugly. And even uglier is [from] "the late 1980s until the 2010s and the failure of local authorities to act on reports of the abuse throughout most of that period.." Why didn't the cops do something a lot sooner? This was covered up like the pedophile priests.

 

[Legion]

Why? You know I'm against terrorism and killing, no matter whose.

No, I don't. Remember your reaction to the Islamic terrorist murder of little Julian Cadman?

www.justplainpolitics.com/showthread.php?83674-His-name-was-Julian-Cadman

 

[Legion]

That is very, very ugly. And even uglier is [from] "the late 1980s until the 2010s and the failure of local authorities to act on reports of the abuse throughout most of that period.." Why didn't the cops do something a lot sooner? This was covered up like the pedophile priests.

I heard they didn't want to seem Islamophobic and were under pressure to keep it hushed up. To this day the molesters are usually described as "Asian" rather than Muslim.

 

[christiefan915]

No, I don't. Remember your reaction to the Islamic terrorist murder of little Julian Cadman?

www.justplainpolitics.com/showthread.php?83674-His-name-was-Julian-Cadman

You mean this reaction?

"I can't fault someone for trying to save his family from violence and conflict. All refugees take that chance after weighing the alternatives. Troll posted his article about a British-Australian boy caught up in an attack. You can bet he'll never post about the thousands of Muslim children or other refugees who are also victims of violence. I hate violence and have been pretty clear about that all the time. That's the opposite of many cons here who post to "nuke 'em all and let God sort 'em out."

 

[christiefan915]

I heard they didn't want to seem Islamophobic and were under pressure to keep it hushed up. To this day the molesters are usually described as "Asian" rather than Muslim.

I didn't know Islamophobia was a thing in the late 1980s. I thought it came about after 9/11.

 

[Legion]

I didn't know Islamophobia was a thing in the late 1980s. I thought it came about after 9/11.

Political correctness has been around for decades. Note the euphemism "Asian".

Rotherham council ignored child abuse by Asian gangs because of 'misplaced political correctness', report concludes. Damning report into the Rotherham child sex exploitation scandal finds council riven by 'bullying, sexism, suppression and misplaced political correctness'

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/11391314/Rotherham-child-sex-abuse-scandal-council-not-fit-for-purpose.html

 

[mak2]

It's weird how educated liberals who do not practice Christianity, are actually more knowledgeable about Christianity that most allegedly-devout bible thumpers who wear their Christianity on their sleeves.

Yes it is. I was once struggling with my Christianity and modded a very liberal site about the same time. I learned more from the atheist on our site than any of the Christians and it strengthened my faith a great deal. In fact, that was when I thought through the difference between faith and fact.

 

[kudzu]

Maybe the term should be changed to Salifiphobia? You should bear in mind that we have have more Muslims than the US, despite have a fifth of the population and one fortieth of the land area. I don't think most Americans appreciate that crucial difference. There are towns in England where half the population is Muslim, is there anywhere even remotely like that in the US.

Do you remember back in 2000? Over a period of a half dozen years the Saudis warned the Brits about giving sanctuary to dissidents that had been expelled from the Arab world... Typically they were "intellectual" radicals..

 

[dukkha]

Maybe the term should be changed to Salifiphobia? You should bear in mind that we have have more Muslims than the US, despite have a fifth of the population and one fortieth of the land area. I don't think most Americans appreciate that crucial difference. There are towns in England where half the population is Muslim, is there anywhere even remotely like that in the US.

true. Muslim garb is rare, headscarfs not as much -but it's noticible here in the land of T-shirts and sandals (Florida)

 

[Legion]

I was once struggling with my Christianity and modded a very liberal site about the same time. I learned more from the atheist on our site than any of the Christians and it strengthened my faith a great deal. In fact, that was when I thought through the difference between faith and fact.

Cool story.

 

[Guno צְבִי]

Alveda King is the niece of Dr. Rev. Martin Luther King.

Living up there in Canada, ... I'm sure you never even met a Black person in real life. But you white liberal Canucks sure enjoy filling your prisons with aboriginals.

what a dumb untraveled redneck, canada has lot of black people

 

[Guno צְבִי]

Maybe the term should be changed to Salifiphobia? You should bear in mind that we have have more Muslims than the US, despite have a fifth of the population and one fortieth of the land area. I don't think most Americans appreciate that crucial difference. There are towns in England where half the population is Muslim, is there anywhere even remotely like that in the US.

a lot of muslims come from countries under the crown

 

[Cypress]

Yes it is. I was once struggling with my Christianity and modded a very liberal site about the same time. I learned more from the atheist on our site than any of the Christians and it strengthened my faith a great deal. In fact, that was when I thought through the difference between faith and fact.

You would be actually amazed at how many allegedly devout "Christians" do not even realize that Catholics are Christian, that Muslims revere Jesus, Noah, and Abraham, and they seem to think Eastern Orthodoxy is some kind of cult.

It is like these allegedly devout bible thumpers don't even really know their own religion.

I am far from a theological expert myself, but as an educated person I am generally aware of the scope and nature of human knowledge and experience.

 

[sear]

"You would be actually amazed at how many allegedly devout "Christians" do not even realize that Catholics are Christian" C #215

My Biblical consultant explained it to me.

- Christians follow Christ.
- Catholics follow the Pope.

In matters of absolutely no importance I'm willing allow others to relate Catholics to Christians, without theological challenge.

But logic aside, I believe the Holy Bible teaches that he with two masters serves neither. If Catholics follow Christ, then isn't the Pope extraneous?

btw
I'm a fan of Pope Francis, for the good works he's already done. But he has much much more to do.

 

[Mott the Hoople]

We are not America, but we do have thousands of potential terrorists, many back from Syria and ISIS biding their time. Only a couple of weeks ago I saw some bomb disposal landrovers parked down the road. I think about my sons all the time and worry about them living in London, you don't have children so you likely cannot empathise.

Well do what we do here in America. Marry your homely daughters to them. It assimilates them quicker and gets her out of the house.

Tom, even with the immigrants it’s still about four times safer in England than in the US. Relax!

 

[cancel2 2022]

That is very, very ugly. And even uglier is [from] "the late 1980s until the 2010s and the failure of local authorities to act on reports of the abuse throughout most of that period.." Why didn't the cops do something a lot sooner? This was covered up like the pedophile priests.

They didn't do anything because they were terrified of being labelled racist, same story with social services, the council and the media. They were all frightened of being called Islamophobic and bigots. This is a practical demonstrstion of how corrosive a philosophy political correctness can be.

One woman wrote a report on it back in 2002 and was threatened for her sins. Her report was destroyed by the council but fortunately she kept her own copy which was released much later when the details of the systematic abuse came out. One lone Labour MP called Ann Cryer spoke out about the same thing happening in West Yorkshire and she was excoriated by her PC obsessed fellow MPs, truly wonderful woman who fought back and shamed the bastards.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/aug/30/rotherham-girls-could-have-been-spared-ann-cryer

 

[cancel2 2022]

Dearborn MI has a lot of Arab-Americans who are both Christian and Muslim but not half the population. How have the Muslims in the English towns affected them?

Here is the former equalities watchdog Trevor Philips, a black man with Caribbean parents, warning about the dangers of Muslim ghettoes. I read a story about Jack Straw, former Labour Home Secretary, who was friends with Hillary Clinton taking her around his Blackburn constituency. She was truly amazed at how bad the level of isolation had become amongst Muslims there.

Trevor Phillips says many hold very different values from the rest of society and want to lead separate lives.

Most worryingly, those with separatist views are far more likely to support terrorism. The former head of the Equality and Human Rights Commission advocates the monitoring of ethnic minority populations on housing estates to stop them becoming ‘ghetto villages’.

He says schools may have to consider a 50 per cent limit on Muslim or other minority pupils to encourage social integration.

And he says disturbing survey findings point to a growing chasm between the attitudes of many British Muslims and their compatriots.

In a no-holds barred article for the Daily Mail ahead of a television documentary on Muslim attitudes in Britain, Mr Phillips also warns:

Extremist ideas have flourished while politicians claim ‘only a tiny minority hold dangerous views’;

An estimated 100,000 British Muslims admit having sympathy with suicide bombers fighting injustice;

Many believe it is divinely ordained that a woman should always obey her husband;

Large numbers ‘do not accept the values and behaviours that make Britain what it is’

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...veloping-says-former-equalities-watchdog.html to

 

[moon]

They didn't do anything because they were terrified of being labelled racist, same story with social services, the council and the media. They were all frightened of being called Islamophobic and bigots. This is a practical demonstrstion of how corrosive a philosophy political correctness can be.

Whereas any hint of criticism of the Jewish factory owner who treats his employees like shit draws HOWLS of ' antisemitism ! from the likes of you, eh maggot.

Prosemitic scum-sac.