Put families on the street or raise taxes on the rich.

Old Trapper said:
See how it is that fools like you can't even comprehend what they say:



You do understand that the illegals pay taxes while the employer does not, right? In fact, the employer uses the wages paid to the illegal who pays the taxes as a business expense.
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But this is about businesses that hire illegals.
 
USFREEDOM911 said:
But this is about businesses that hire illegals.
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Then you should have left the rest of the bull shit off the post.

Businesses have been hiring illegals for at least 40 years. Now you want to whine about it? You, and everyone else in the country, has benefited from those illegals. When Obama tried the deportation thing in 2011 the price of goods went rocketing up. Right now the apple growers, cherry growers, etc., are saying they are 25-30,000 short on laborers. How high do you think fruit will be next year? Veggies? Yuma Az. is already dealing with a drought. What happens when the shortage of workers hits there? Then there is the shortage of funding for SS, and Medicare, due to the shortage of workers.

The shit is about to hit the wall, and you will blame all others. Never Trump, or the Republicans.
 
Old Trapper said:
Then you should have left the rest of the bull shit off the post.

Businesses have been hiring illegals for at least 40 years. Now you want to whine about it? You, and everyone else in the country, has benefited from those illegals. When Obama tried the deportation thing in 2011 the price of goods went rocketing up. Right now the apple growers, cherry growers, etc., are saying they are 25-30,000 short on laborers. How high do you think fruit will be next year? Veggies? Yuma Az. is already dealing with a drought. What happens when the shortage of workers hits there? Then there is the shortage of funding for SS, and Medicare, due to the shortage of workers.

The shit is about to hit the wall, and you will blame all others. Never Trump, or the Republicans.
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And once again; this is about businesses that hire illegals, not who pays taxes. :D
 
USFREEDOM911 said:
And once again; this is about businesses that hire illegals, not who pays taxes. :D
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Well dense one, what the fuck you got in mind about businesses that hire illegals if the fucking asswipes don't do it for tax purposes? Are you really that fucking dense?

And then they wonder why an idiot like Trump got elected with fucking mindless fools like you around.
 
Old Trapper said:
Well dense one, what the fuck you got in mind about businesses that hire illegals if the fucking asswipes don't do it for tax purposes? Are you really that fucking dense?

And then they wonder why an idiot like Trump got elected with fucking mindless fools like you around.
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If a business is hiring illegals, then they need to be held accountable.
 
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Old Trapper said:
Well, that is better, and you are right. And occasionally one is. Problem they find though is there are no workers to take their place. Guess what happens then?
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You do realize that this is exactly what I had said, before you went off on your tangent??!!

9/21 at 5:34 PM

USFREEDOM911 said:
If someone is hiring illegal aliens, then his business deserves to go away; because someone else will fill the gap and will pay those taxes.

:truestory:
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USFREEDOM911 said:
You do realize that this is exactly what I had said, before you went off on your tangent??!!

9/21 at 5:34 PM
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And I told you that you should have stopped there. Instead you had to drag it out to include taxes, and then, being the fool you are, you ignored that and went on your childish rant.

I must have "triggered" something, :rofl:
 
Old Trapper said:
And I told you that you should have stopped there. Instead you had to drag it out to include taxes, and then, being the fool you are, you ignored that and went on your childish rant.

I must have "triggered" something, :rofl:
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Are you so inept and cognitively challenged, that you failed to see that I was answering a comment made by PoliTalker and that he was the one who first mentioned taxes??

:facepalm:
 
USFREEDOM911 said:
Are you so inept and cognitively challenged, that you failed to see that I was answering a comment made by PoliTalker and that he was the one who first mentioned taxes??
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Well, stupidity certainly does reign supreme in your limited intellect. I don't believe I was responding to PoliTalker so it matters not what he said.
 
USFREEDOM911 said:
If a business is hiring illegals, then they need to be held accountable.
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The businesses that hire illegals aren't viable without the cheap labour. And the reason why Americans won't take those jobs is not because they don't like the kind of work, it's because the wages are too low for Americans.

Are you going to stop being a capitalist?

You're attacking a minority that isn't responsible for the problems because that's what Trump wants you to do. Then he can pretend that he's going to come to America's rescue, maga, etc.

The truth is, Americans can't afford Americans working because their product if far too expensive. China is producing it all much cheaper and Americans are forced to buy it up as quick as China can send it. If it wasn't for Walmart, American consumers would be in crisis.

Blame the illegal immigrants for the 'feel good' benefits. And demand that the free market be curtailed and American businesses be forced to hire Americans. But continue to shop at Walmart! Get it?
 
montgomery said:
The businesses that hire illegals aren't viable without the cheap labour. And the reason why Americans won't take those jobs is not because they don't like the kind of work, it's because the wages are too low for Americans.

Are you going to stop being a capitalist?

You're attacking a minority that isn't responsible for the problems because that's what Trump wants you to do. Then he can pretend that he's going to come to America's rescue, maga, etc.

The truth is, Americans can't afford Americans working because their product if far too expensive. China is producing it all much cheaper and Americans are forced to buy it up as quick as China can send it. If it wasn't for Walmart, American consumers would be in crisis.

Blame the illegal immigrants for the 'feel good' benefits. And demand that the free market be curtailed and American businesses be forced to hire Americans. But continue to shop at Walmart! Get it?
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Then they can close.

Nature and society abhor a vacuum and if the business closing creates one, then someone else will fill the void; but if it doesn't create a void, then it will pass and society will move on.

The rest of your diatribe, is just ranting on your part. :good4u:
 
USFREEDOM911 said:
Then they can close.

Nature and society abhor a vacuum and if the business closing creates one, then someone else will fill the void; but if it doesn't create a void, then it will pass and society will move on.

The rest of your diatribe, is just ranting on your part. :good4u:
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I'm very interested in understanding your points. Nature and society abhor a vacuum. Agreed! If Walmart closed then the vacuum would be filled by another company that imports the majority of their goods from China. And Americans would buy them up because they are affordable goods and American made goods are not. There's simply no escaping that truth! Do you agree?

This is really defining capitalism and fwiw, I'm a capitalist.

What is it that you think I'm ranting about? Do you disagree with anything I've said?

If you're promoting the preventing of illegals entering the US then you're unwittingly talking against the free enterprise system of America. If you were a business owner that depends on cheap labour to stay viable then you wouldn't be taking that position.

Your promotion of conservatism is flashy! Can you stand behind it?
 
montgomery said:
I'm very interested in understanding your points. Nature and society abhor a vacuum. Agreed! If Walmart closed then the vacuum would be filled by another company that imports the majority of their goods from China. And Americans would buy them up because they are affordable goods and American made goods are not. There's simply no escaping that truth! Do you agree?

This is really defining capitalism and fwiw, I'm a capitalist.

What is it that you think I'm ranting about? Do you disagree with anything I've said?

If you're promoting the preventing of illegals entering the US then you're unwittingly talking against the free enterprise system of America. If you were a business owner that depends on cheap labour to stay viable then you wouldn't be taking that position.

Your promotion of conservatism is flashy! Can you stand behind it?
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Religiously yes. Coherently no.
 
What kills me is exactly how much the Left are willing to tax to feed their insatiable appetite for big government welfare programs? They seem to forget that people are leaving Liberal states in droves, and have been for decades.
 
Fentoine Lum said:
Religiously yes. Coherently no.
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Well, he's a true believer and I've challenged him. If he turns it to a challenge of his religion then there's nothing I can do about it, and wouldn't even try. However, if he's honest with himself he will begin to see Trump as a contradiction of his religious beliefs.
 
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