You do realize he has gone full fascist in his speeches

noise said:
I'm sure that is autoparts, not just bare components. either way the economic principle remains the same.
More NAFTA content - less advantages forr Chinese part.
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Again, this was already worked out by Obama and the NAFTA countries in TPP. Throwing that in the trash, then taking it out of the trash, un-crumpling it, taking a couple things from it and ditching the rest isn't creating a whole new deal. It's nominally changing a deal that already exists; and you're not really changing it in a dramatic way that could spur meaningful change. It's just a further protection of the status quo, but it lacks the strength and breadth of TPP. So you might think we screwed over China good, but the reality is that it was a battle China was willing to lose because they gain massively from the US pulling out of a Pacific Trade Pact with China's neighbors and economic partners. So guess who will step into that void? China.
 
noise said:
No, it allows supply chains to be competitive in price to Chinese - decisions are now made on quality and transport etc., rather then just "buy cheap Chinese"
The goal is to grow jobs. Both Mexico and the USA have to win in this agreement. or they won't sign.
By getting more jobs in the NAFTA sector it allow more MExican production but also less outsourcing of existing US auto plants/jobs
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Jobs aren't going to be created. If anything, jobs will continue to disappear because of automation and AI. We've long passed peak auto employment...at this point, the most jobs being created in the auto sector are for robots. If I'm a domestic auto manufacturer, I look at this trade deal and am like, "OK, but I'm planning on replacing my workers with robots anyway...and those robots will also be employed in Mexico too."

So you've only sped up the possibility that will happen by nominally increasing Mexican wages. Now, automakers will look at the Mexican labor market and do exactly what they did here two decades ago; replace workers with robots and AI.
 
reagansghost said:
He now openly calls himself a Nationalist.

His policies will soon catch up if he can maintain his one party rule. We now have no court protection basically forever.

We have, in fact, seen this movie and several remakes.

1930s Spain
1930s Italy
1930s Germany
1940s Argentina
1970s Chile

This shit's gettin' pretty fucking real
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He better behave himself tonight.

But, don't hold your breath!
 
reagansghost said:
He now openly calls himself a Nationalist.

His policies will soon catch up if he can maintain his one party rule. We now have no court protection basically forever.

We have, in fact, seen this movie and several remakes.

1930s Spain
1930s Italy
1930s Germany
1940s Argentina
1970s Chile

This shit's gettin' pretty fucking real
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Shit will get real for you on Nov. 6.

All the fraud and false flag ops in the world won't save you.
 
reagansghost said:
He now openly calls himself a Nationalist.

His policies will soon catch up if he can maintain his one party rule. We now have no court protection basically forever.

We have, in fact, seen this movie and several remakes.

1930s Spain
1930s Italy
1930s Germany
1940s Argentina
1970s Chile

This shit's gettin' pretty fucking real
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Can you show us how nationalism is synonymous with fascism?
 
reagansghost said:
the term 'nationalism' can be benign as is in pride in one's country

as opposed to Trump, Franco, Mussolini et al's usage, extreme nationalism

....as in the Nazi party's usage "National Socialism" which is code for extreme nationalism for all........and terms like European 'Democratic Socialism' which is code for sharing the national wealth/productivity with all (capitalism very much a part of that mix)
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Tell us what Trump has in common with Mussolini or Hitler. And describe to us exactly what "extreme nationalism" is. Please be detailed and specific. We know you won't though, because you have no idea what you're talking about. You simply regurgitate the issued talking points like a good little brown shirt.
 
LV426 said:
And opening up what Canadian markets? Dairy. That's it. And most Canadian farmers are opposed to that because it will hurt their profit margins.

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Canada protects dairy farmers by quota limits. As opposed to the U.S., which put small farmers out of business decades ago. America got around the NAFTA limits by creating a different market for milk protein products, which were not protected under NAFTA. So we flooded their market with subsidized milk products.

Now under NAFTA 2, Canada will take a modicum of whole milk.
 
Micawber said:
Lock him up, crooked Trump!!! chant it with me! Lock him up Lock him up!


just channeling a Trump rally
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Why lock Hillary up? Because she used a private server that was more secure than the govt. server.

This just in:

trump has been monitored on his unsecured phone by China, and Russia. He jeopardized natl. security because he refuses to adhere to common security protocols.

Lock Him Up.
 
countryboy said:
Tell us what Trump has in common with Mussolini or Hitler. And describe to us exactly what "extreme nationalism" is. Please be detailed and specific. We know you won't though, because you have no idea what you're talking about. You simply regurgitate the issued talking points like a good little brown shirt.
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working your many requests cuntry boyee.....watch for it, coming soon!
 
LV426 said:
It's still cheaper in all cases. $16/hr is where union wages START. So if we're raising some Mexican wages to $16/hr, that's still a level below union and non-union wages.

So this is just like lowering the corporate tax rate to 21%...it's lower, sure, but it's still higher than the tax rate in most of the countries to where businesses have outsourced. So it accomplishes nothing. And raising Mexican wages to $16/hr still makes them cheaper than American labor. So why would any labor shift back to the US since the Mexican wage is still below that of US wages? All that does is increase the cost of production, which is passed onto consumers.

If the goal was to shift production from Mexico back to the US, the wage for the Mexican workers needs to be higher in order to create that opportunity cost incentive.
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I believe it's an average of $16/hr. So many in Mexico will still be making much less. Re. auto parts, the deal requires 75% of the parts to be made in either Canada/Mexico/U.S.

NOT 'here'. So we may see more manufacturing of parts here, but probably not. What we will see, is a hike in auto prices, and a loss of jobs due to a declining market.
 
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