Why We Need Gun Restrictions

[leaningright]

Gun laws like this?

We would fight against laws like this tooth and nail here in Oklahoma...and I really hope the people of Washington have sense enough to vote it down.

 

[Callinectes]

A couple of questions:
1) What purpose exactly does a "universal" background check serve in a state like Illinois?
2) Where can I get a bump stock? I would NEVER put one on a firearm I cared about, but it does piss off the libtards, which is always fun
So what else ya got, old trapper? Seeing as how background checks and bump stops have NOTHING to do with that situation in Florida? And "stand your ground" is abused frequently and does not apply in this case either. So put up or shut up, give us something new that will at least make us think it's worth consideration

 

[Celticguy]

If you want regulation better repeal the 2nd amendment first.

 

[Ralph]

The right wing will never admit it since common sense is not their forte, however, this is a good example of why we do need more restrictions. And please, for the useful idiot toadies, don't try to make this into gun confiscation like you NRA masters have told you:

https://abcnews.go.com/US/killed-sh...o-shows-florida-store-owner/story?id=58506648

You are confusing the 1st amendment rights of speech and opinion with the 2nd amendment right to bear arms to protect yourself against enemies both foreign and domestic......right now the greatest threat to this nation and its constitutional rights is obvious....its left wing fascism. Just because your right of free speech does not agree with those you are opposed to does not give you the right take away their own rights of speech and self protection from people just like you while you wave the false flags.

FYI: Have you looked at reality lately? The 2nd amendment has been regulated to hell and back.

 

[TrippyHippy]

The right wing will never admit it since common sense is not their forte, however, this is a good example of why we do need more restrictions. And please, for the useful idiot toadies, don't try to make this into gun confiscation like you NRA masters have told you:

https://abcnews.go.com/US/killed-sh...o-shows-florida-store-owner/story?id=58506648

Stand your ground does not apply to this case as surveillance video and eyewitness reports seem to indicate the shopowner's life was never in any danger. The court will likely rule as such. Self-defense was the purpose of that law, the purpose was not so shopowners can play judge, jury, and executioner for petty crimes. So...I fail to see, first of all, how this case is a valid argument against stand your ground laws nor how it is a a valid argument in favor of more gun restrictions. This man will likely be going to prison, that is the current law functioning the way it's supposed to. And in favor of the victim in question.

Had the thief been wielding and brandishing a weapon, that'd be different and frankly the shopowner should have the legal right to self-defense in that event.

 

[Old Trapper]

You are confusing the 1st amendment rights of speech and opinion with the 2nd amendment right to bear arms to protect yourself against enemies both foreign and domestic......right now the greatest threat to this nation and its constitutional rights is obvious....its left wing fascism. Just because your right of free speech does not agree with those you are opposed to does not give you the right take away their own rights of speech and self protection from people just like you while you wave the false flags.

FYI: Have you looked at reality lately? The 2nd amendment has been regulated to hell and back.

I am sorry that I am not a useful idiot like you, and most of the right wing. However, where does the Second give you the right to kill another for basically no reason at all? Unless you can show some knowledge of what fascism is all about I would suggest you keep your ignorance to yourself, and quit repetitiously speaking taunts based on your own ignorance, and what you have been taught by those even more ignorant then you such as Trump.

Speaking of reality, have you seen how many people are being killed by the likes of you, and your anti-Americanism cowardice? You vote for liars, and thieves. You vote for cowards, and those who have sold out the country for personal gain. You don't ask what can you do for the country, you only ask what can the country do for you. And if you think some poor person might benefit from the wealth you have given to the few you whine about "redistribution" never seeing how the wealth is being transferred to the few. Then you blame all others for the tribulations of the country never accepting responsibility for your own actions.

You have the right to say whatever you wish. You do not have the right to lie as you do, and then not expect to be called a liar for doing so.

 

[Old Trapper]

Stand your ground does not apply to this case as surveillance video and eyewitness reports seem to indicate the shopowner's life was never in any danger. The court will likely rule as such. Self-defense was the purpose of that law, the purpose was not so shopowners can play judge, jury, and executioner for petty crimes. So...I fail to see, first of all, how this case is a valid argument against stand your ground laws nor how it is a a valid argument in favor of more gun restrictions. This man will likely be going to prison, that is the current law functioning the way it's supposed to. And in favor of the victim in question.

Had the thief been wielding and brandishing a weapon, that'd be different and frankly the shopowner should have the legal right to self-defense in that event.

Because ever since Zimmerman first used this defense, as well as a homeowner in Texas that killed two burglars exiting a neighbors home, and then there are the cops that have falsly used it, it has become a tool for murderers to confuse the issue, and abuse the principle.

The shop owner has been charged with 2nd. degree murder. IMO, it should be First degree since the shop owner was preventing the shop lifter from fleeing, and he had not threatened the owner.

 

[Mr.Badguy]

If you want regulation better repeal the 2nd amendment first.

Guns are already regulated and the 2nd is right where it's always been.

 

[Celticguy]

where does the Second give you the right to kill another for basically no reason at all?
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It doesnt. The Bill of Rights specifies rights. Criminal law defines unacceptable behaviors. You understand the difference between the two right ?

 

[Celticguy]

Guns are already regulated and the 2nd is right where it's always been.

You have already pushed this as far as the SCOTUS will allow. If you want more you have to remove the constitutional right or at least modify it.

 

[SmarterthanYou]

The right wing will never admit it since common sense is not their forte, however, this is a good example of why we do need more restrictions. And please, for the useful idiot toadies, don't try to make this into gun confiscation like you NRA masters have told you:

https://abcnews.go.com/US/killed-sh...o-shows-florida-store-owner/story?id=58506648

this shows nothing more than a man needs to be punished for not thinking. if he'd used a knife or another hatchet, like the one being stolen, would you be raising a stink about it?

 

[SmarterthanYou]

Never has, never will.

your biased link notwithstanding, if guns didn't make us safer, you idiots wouldnt be demanding that cops and the military have them.

 

[Old Trapper]

It doesnt. The Bill of Rights specifies rights. Criminal law defines unacceptable behaviors. You understand the difference between the two right ?

Question is do you, and if you do then why are so many on the right using the Second as a defense for killing others?

 

[sear]

" if guns didn't make us safer, you idiots wouldnt be demanding that cops and the military have them. " SY #34

"The way to reduce gun crime is to be sure that everyone is armed. That's why war zones are so safe." shiftless2.currenteventsii

 

[Old Trapper]

this shows nothing more than a man needs to be punished for not thinking. if he'd used a knife or another hatchet, like the one being stolen, would you be raising a stink about it?

In fact, I would. However, the defense would have been different since it was closer to a fair fight, and the shop lifter more then likely would not be dead. Then too, it probably would have not made national headlines, and I would never have seen it. And there seem to be few regulations on knives, hatchets, and the like.

But keep finding excuses for the killing of another. That is what your side is good at.

 

[Old Trapper]

your biased link notwithstanding, if guns didn't make us safer, you idiots wouldnt be demanding that cops and the military have them.

As I posted before, more guns are not making us safer.

 

[SmarterthanYou]

In fact, I would. However, the defense would have been different since it was closer to a fair fight, and the shop lifter more then likely would not be dead. Then too, it probably would have not made national headlines, and I would never have seen it. And there seem to be few regulations on knives, hatchets, and the like.

But keep finding excuses for the killing of another. That is what your side is good at.

some people just need killing. I don't agree that this one did, though, so your 'side' argument is stupid. especially considering i'm neither republican or democrat, left or right, but that's what you partisan idiots seem to be good at. As far as 'fair fight' goes, then you would think we should be as equally armed as the government in order to make it a 'fair fight', wouldn't you think?

 

[SmarterthanYou]

As I posted before, more guns are not making us safer.

and i called your link biased. i'll even call it bullshit. if more guns made us less safe, you'd have taken them away from the government already.

 

[volsrock]

As I posted before, more guns are not making us safer.

Than why do movie stars etc have body guards with GUNS?

 

[Old Trapper]

and i called your link biased. i'll even call it bullshit. if more guns made us less safe, you'd have taken them away from the government already.

LOL, I love it when the fools from the right show their absolute lack of intelligence. Why would one take the very weapons away from the military that keep the country safe? However, it is not the military that is patrolling the streets at night no matter how much you right wing cowards wish it to be. I do have a problem with the militarization of the police, however, that is another topic.

And I am not even curious as to why fools think if you give more people the ability to kill on demand (and most murders are emotionally charged) tat somehow we will be safer. In fact, one of the greatest threats to public safety is MS13, and I have yet to see a citizen led group do anything about it.