Pussy Riot talks Trump and Putin
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q: You have spoken frequently about the parallels between American President Donald Trump and Putin. What alarms you the most?
A: Their attitude to media and that they cannot take criticism at all. Also, that their intention (is) to put their political opponents in jail. The fact that they belong to the cast of ultra-privileged rich white man who believe that they can decide for everybody how they have to lead their lives.
A: Their attitude to media and that they cannot take criticism at all. Also, that their intention (is) to put their political opponents in jail. The fact that they belong to the cast of ultra-privileged rich white man who believe that they can decide for everybody how they have to lead their lives.
q: You have spoken frequently about the parallels between American President Donald Trump and Putin. What alarms you the most?
A: Their attitude to media and that they cannot take criticism at all. Also, that their intention (is) to put their political opponents in jail. The fact that they belong to the cast of ultra-privileged rich white man who believe that they can decide for everybody how they have to lead their lives.
I wouldn't expect you to understand, nor even have the slightest idea what she is talking about.
Your president, and his allies, have routinely giggled about putting political opponents in prison.
Trump is the personification of white male privilege. An avatar for inherited wealth, self-entitlement, and the entrenched status of the while male patriarchy.
What Pussy Riot means to me is that there are still people in the world willing to put their lives on the line, to go to prison rather than submit to the reactionary forces of the rightwing. Most Americans, including a lot of liberals are complacent about Democracy. Some Americans (aka, Republicans) are actually hostile to democracy, and seek to subvert it. Not many Americans have the balls of Nadezhda Tolokonnikova. The chicks in Pussy Riot stand as an example of people willing to risk everything for the liberal tradition, for democratic principles, and for common human decency.
oh please. "Lock her up" was because she flagrantly lied about no classified info on her server after she said there was no marked classified on her server.
I can't even remember all her lies; I do know she violated the "gross negligence"clause
yada yada yada.
Trump is duly elected POTUS, and is trying to make America great again. not "white male America"
He's doing a good job so far on it as well.
Putin is duly elected. I realize he arrests his opposition in some cases -but why is that our concern?
Do you want Russia meddling in US elections?
Why should we meddle in theirs?
Trump is riding Obama's coat tails on the economy, and there is zero evidence Trump has ever given a shit about blacks, Hispanics, or poor people of any color. No one has ever seen the self-absorbed Trump show any genuine empathy.
Only fascists and proto-fascists chant "lock her up". There are Trump fans on this board that would cheer for Trump to put Hillary in prison. If the rule of law was not still functioning in this country, I have zero doubt that Trump would have Hillary locked up.
Russia does not have a functioning democratic system of government, they do not have fair elections, and their system is set up to ensure a Putin victory. .
You always try to conflate meddling with advocating.
I have no problem with the United States, Pussy Riot, or any person advocating for Russia to respect democratic principles, a free press, and free and fair elections - within the boundaries of law and international standards of conduct. In fact, I think we are morally obligated to do that. The exception being that Republicans are not allowed to lecture Russia on democracy and elections, since the GOP has shown themselves to be a proto-fascist party who seeks to subvert democracy.
What you and your Kremlin friends are decidedly not doing is advocating. The Kremlin is actively meddling in, conducting cyber warfare, and seeking to actively subvert our democracy. What they are doing is not advocacy. Any red blooded American is obligated to defend our democracy from these attacks. The fact that Trump shows little interest in defending the United States does not seem to bother you in the least.
That's rich considering our MEDDLING in the Ukraine Euromaidan - probably the biggest screw up by Obama.
It caused Putin to annex Crimea after repeated threats to not renew the Sevastopol lease.
Putin had to ensure access to his Black Sea fleet.
I remind you of our MEDDLING in the Yeltsin election - which caused him to take power,
and become an utter failure which set the stage for Putin's rise to power.
So please don't conflate troll farms to actual on the ground MEDDLING by the USA in Russian elections.
unsupported rank partisan statements like this( below ) is why I don't take your views seriously on elections
If Comey/Lynch /Strzok hadn't conspired to keep Hillary out of an indictment you might have a point. but you dont
Robert Mueller is a lifelong Republican, and even Newt Gingrich called Mueller's integrity and honesty unimpeachable.
And people convicted of committing actual crimes is not the same as chanting "Lock Her Up!" for a political opponent that has not been convicted or found guilty of jack shit.
reagansghost
eternal
you never run out of bullshit
We have been over this ad naseum. USAID offering legal, technical, and financial aid, with the full knowledge of the Russian Government, is not the same thing as hacking computers, conducting cyberwarfare, and meddling in elections. USAID operates legally in countries around the world.
Private American political consultants offering Boris Yeltsin advice on how to run a western-style political campaign is not even remotely in the same league as Russian State Intelligence Services engaging in asymmetric warfare, hacking, and attempts to covertly subvert American democracy.
There is no moral equivalency, no matter how many times you try to claim there is.
Lastly, you are ostensibly an American, and I would think you would show some nominal interest in defending our democracy against attempts by Russian State Security services to undermine it.
countryboy
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q: You have spoken frequently about the parallels between American President Donald Trump and Putin. What alarms you the most?
A: Their attitude to media and that they cannot take criticism at all. Also, that their intention (is) to put their political opponents in jail. The fact that they belong to the cast of ultra-privileged rich white man who believe that they can decide for everybody how they have to lead their lives.
Lol, typical LWNJ projection.
ROFLq: You have spoken frequently about the parallels between American President Donald Trump and Putin. What alarms you the most?
A: Their attitude to media and that they cannot take criticism at all. Also, that their intention (is) to put their political opponents in jail. The fact that they belong to the cast of ultra-privileged rich white man who believe that they can decide for everybody how they have to lead their lives.
Son of the Revolution
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nice fucking opinion...