The nation's most endangered species: The Young Conservative

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Cypress

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Reader's Digest version: Anyone from the age of 18-29 and who plans on voting for McCain is wildly out of step with their peers. I'd pay money to be a fly on the wall, at a young college repukelicans meeting these days. A more despondent group of magic underwear-wearing, Iraq war-loving chickenhawks, I can't imagine.

Report: The Progressive Generation: How Young Adults Think About the Economy - Here are the major findings:

* Millennials are more likely to support universal health coverage than any age group in the 30 previous years the question has been asked, with 57 percent of 18- to 29-year-olds saying that health insurance should come from a government insurance plan.

* Eighty-seven percent of Millennials think the government should spend more money on health care even if a tax increase is required to pay for it, the highest level of support in the question’s 20-year history.

* An overwhelming 95 percent of Millennials think education spending should be increased even if a tax increase is required to pay for it, the highest level ever recorded on this question in the 20 years it has been asked.

* Sixty-one percent of Millennials think the government should provide more services, the most support of any age group in any of the previous 20 years the question was asked.

* When asked in the General Social Survey whether they were in favor or against the idea that cutting government was a good way to help the economy, Millennials had the lowest support of cutting government spending in the history of the question.

# Millennials are very supportive of labor unions, giving them an average ranking of 60 on a 0-to-100 scale (with 0 indicating a more negative view of labor unions and 100 being a more positive view), the second-highest level of support of any age group in the over 40-year history of the question.
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http://www.alternet.org/blogs/peek/#84930
 
And then there is this:

Young Evangelicals Abandoning GOP Over Iraq, Economy
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/05/11/young-evangelicals-abando_n_101184.html?ybf1=1

Michael Dudley is the son of a preacher man.

He's a born-again Christian with two family members in the military. He grew up in the Bible Belt, where almost everyone he knew was Republican. But this fall, he's breaking a handful of stereotypes: He plans to vote for Democrat Barack Obama.

"I think a lot of Christians are having trouble getting behind everything the Republicans stand for," said Dudley, 20, a sophomore at Seattle Pacific University.

Dudley's disenchantment with the GOP isn't unique among young, devoutly Christian voters. According to a September 2007 survey by the Pew Forum on Religion & Public Life, 15 percent of white evangelicals between 18 and 29, a group traditionally a shoo-in for the GOP, say they no longer identify with the Republican Party. Older evangelicals are also questioning their traditional allegiance, but not at the same rate.
 
"An overwhelming 95 percent of Millennials think education spending should be increased even if a tax increase is required to pay for it,"

No way, young people, a large potion of which is attending school and has a low income, wants more funding for education, EVEN if taxes go up....cause well... they wont be paying for it anyway considering they are poor college students..

Yes, the young kids with no true real world experience, the way-over idealistic uninformed are not conservative. Point is?
 
Grind said:
"An overwhelming 95 percent of Millennials think education spending should be increased even if a tax increase is required to pay for it,"

No way, young people, a large potion of which is attending school and has a low income, wants more funding for education, EVEN if taxes go up....cause well... they wont be paying for it anyway considering they are poor college students..

Yes, the young kids with no true real world experience, the way-over idealistic uninformed are not conservative. Point is?
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Young kids 18-29? And from a group that has been traditionally PAT for the republicans. If I was saying these were college kids at Berkley you might have a SO WHAT moment but these are evangelicals who were a constant for the Republican part for 28 years.
 
Cypress said:
Anyone from the age of 18-29 and who plans on voting for McCain is wildly out of step with their peers.
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Wow, someone being wildly out of step with their peers. Shame on someone who isn't another block in the box.

Cypress > pure hackery cubed.
 
Grind said:
"An overwhelming 95 percent of Millennials think education spending should be increased even if a tax increase is required to pay for it,"

No way, young people, a large potion of which is attending school and has a low income, wants more funding for education, EVEN if taxes go up....cause well... they wont be paying for it anyway considering they are poor college students..

Yes, the young kids with no true real world experience, the way-over idealistic uninformed are not conservative. Point is?
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I'm 35. The first national election I could vote in was 1992. For those that remember that was the first time MTV really got involved in 'Rock The Vote'. MTV had a bunch of specials about how the youth got involved to help elect Bill Clinton and more youth supported progressive ideals etc.

I remember this because I wasn't all that political at the time and I voted for Ross Perot so I wasn't all partisan or ideological. So what we hear now doesn't sound all that different than what I heard then and after two years the Democrats basically lost Congress for 12 years.

Now that's not to say (young) people aren't turned off by the Republican Party today. If they are it is rightly so. The two largest variables going forward (imo) are with all this momentum will the Democrats win but more importantly how will they govern (will they keep their majority for multiple years or will they lose it right away like in '94) and how does the Republican Party rebuild itself?

The stars are aligned for Democrats to be able to dominate. Now its up to them to deliver.
 
cawacko said:
I'm 35. The first national election I could vote in was 1992. For those that remember that was the first time MTV really got involved in 'Rock The Vote'. MTV had a bunch of specials about how the youth got involved to help elect Bill Clinton and more youth supported progressive ideals etc.

I remember this because I wasn't all that political at the time and I voted for Ross Perot so I wasn't all partisan or ideological. So what we hear now doesn't sound all that different than what I heard then and after two years the Democrats basically lost Congress for 12 years.

Now that's not to say (young) people aren't turned off by the Republican Party today. If they are it is rightly so. The two largest variables going forward (imo) are with all this momentum will the Democrats win but more importantly how will they govern (will they keep their majority for multiple years or will they lose it right away like in '94) and how does the Republican Party rebuild itself?

The stars are aligned for Democrats to be able to dominate. Now its up to them to deliver.
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It's the war. It did your party in. And the damage is lasting. Most young people don't like wars. The R's aren't going to take back Congress in two years, for 12 years. Sorry.
 
Beefy said:
Wow, someone being wildly out of step with their peers. Shame on someone who isn't another block in the box.

Cypress > pure hackery cubed.
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No one is saying you can't be out of step with your peers. But the fact is, the Democratic party is gaining new voters and young people are registering democratic.

It's a simple fact.

And Beefy, if a young guy was looking to get laid, talking about how he supports McFossil is less likely to get him there. It's a turnoff for someone who is 20.
 
18-29 young starting out families that can't get health insurance....
How to take care of the little ones......
 
Beefy: Wow, someone being wildly out of step with their peers. Shame on someone who isn't another block in the box.

Cypress > pure hackery cubed.
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As per your suggestion, I'll try to remember to mention Chappaquidick so I can get you approval on being "fair and balanced" next time.

Hey dude, what's happened to you in Hawaii? What's up with the belligerence? Life can't possibly suck there. Every post from you in the last three months has either been following me around with a random hostile attack on my alleged "hackery", or some sad lament about some big titted blonde you could have laid, but blew it. I can't recall ever having insulted you personally, unless you take offense that I mock republicans and the Iraq war. Cheer up, man!



cawacko said:
I'm 35. The first national election I could vote in was 1992. For those that remember that was the first time MTV really got involved in 'Rock The Vote'. MTV had a bunch of specials about how the youth got involved to help elect Bill Clinton and more youth supported progressive ideals etc.

I remember this because I wasn't all that political at the time and I voted for Ross Perot so I wasn't all partisan or ideological. So what we hear now doesn't sound all that different than what I heard then and after two years the Democrats basically lost Congress for 12 years.

Now that's not to say (young) people aren't turned off by the Republican Party today. If they are it is rightly so. The two largest variables going forward (imo) are with all this momentum will the Democrats win but more importantly how will they govern (will they keep their majority for multiple years or will they lose it right away like in '94) and how does the Republican Party rebuild itself?

The stars are aligned for Democrats to be able to dominate. Now its up to them to deliver.
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Yeah, the Democrats have to deliver, I agree with that. I think the republican/bush brand name has been stained for a while.

Cawacko, I don't know if this is like 1992, with respect to young people. The way I remember it, 1992 was the year of the "angry white man". My recollection, is that a bunch of angry white men (typically middle aged or old) threw the Dems out in 1992. Probably something to do with abortions, guns, and bibles. Though, that could be a simplification. :)
 
Cypress said:
As per your suggestion, I'll try to remember to mention Chappaquidick so I can get you approval on being "fair and balanced" next time.

Hey dude, what's happened to you in Hawaii? What's up with the belligerence? Life can't possibly suck there. Every post from you in the last three months has either been following me around with a random hostile attack on my alleged "hackery", or some sad lament about some big titted blonde you could have laid, but blew it. I can't recall ever having insulted you personally, unless you take offense that I mock republicans and the Iraq war. Cheer up, man!






Yeah, the Democrats have to deliver, I agree with that. I think the republican/bush brand name has been stained for a while.

Cawacko, I don't know if this is like 1992, with respect to young people. The way I remember it, 1992 was the year of the "angry white man". My recollection, is that a bunch of angry white men (typically middle aged or old) threw the Dems out in 1992. Probably something to do with abortions, guns, and bibles. Though, that could be a simplification. :)
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You are thinking of '94. 1992 is when Clinton won and the Democrats had control of Congress.
 
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