Nike, Nike, Nike!

christiefan915 said:
trump supports himself only and always has. What has he ever done in his life to show he supports the US... having his products made overseas? Getting out of Vietnam because of bone spurs? Criticizing all his predecessors?
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This is the most truthful observation ever posted on JPP.

Heed this, fellow posters.
 
cawacko said:
Fair enough that you disagree. This is a discussion board and I can respect that people can have differing opinions. I wouldn't want to be on a board that was purely an echo chamber.

The reason I brought up economics is because this thread was about Nike and its share price. You say it wasn't a big one but Kaep did talk about economic injustice so that's why I was discussing it.

I've stated before that I own a ton of Nike gear. So yes it has crossed my mind if I wear the same Nike shirt tomorrow that I've worn for the last year will I go from supporting a big evil corporation that offshores jobs and uses sweatshops to being considered progressive? Ultimately that's neither here nor there but seeing as people are now saying they are going to go buy Nike because of the ad it's an interesting position.

To be clear I have no problem with Nike making money here. And maybe it takes a "white" company to be the one putting out this message. But speaking from an entrepreneurial perspective I believe there is an opening in the shoe space with consumers who are reading to spend.

There are millions of "regular" people. There are only a few world class athletes. I'm not arguing it's an either or scenario. To me you're (probably not on purpose) using the argument white people made to say American isn't racist. Oprah's a billionaire, Jordan is a billionaire, LeBron is wealthy. So see, black people can get rich is the argument that gets made. And while that is true a few at the top doesn't mean the whole is good. Hence my position about economic ownership and empowerment.
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Thanks .. good argument, although I disagree with a few points.

Opportunity does indeed exist in America. Look no further than the Hip-Hop industry. It's THE most listened to music on the planet today.

A multi-billion dollar industry created by African-Americans. Several soon-to-be billionaires among them.

On paper, LeBron is already a billionaire.

What does that mean? It means there is opportunity, not justice. That's my point about this discussion. Now we're not talking about justice, we're talking about opportunity. Different discussion entirely.

A black guy was just killed sitting in his own apartment by a cop.

That's the discussion and the point.
 
Threedee said:
Nike is dead to me. Drop Tiger, but sign Kaeperpick? One of those two is 1000x more obnoxious than the other.
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That's a pretty pathetic reason to boycott a company. I've always refrained from buying Nike shoes, but that has more to do with the fact they take advantage of cheap child labor and operate sweatshops so horrible they have to put suicide nets under the windows to catch people jumping out and bounce them back in so they can make more shoes. It's all around a gross company. But yea, boycott Nike because football man wouldn't stand for the special song.
 
TrippyHippy said:
That's a pretty pathetic reason to boycott a company. I've always refrained from buying Nike shoes, but that has more to do with the fact they take advantage of cheap child labor and operate sweatshops so horrible they have to put suicide nets under the windows to catch people jumping out and bounce them back in so they can make more shoes. It's all around a gross company. But yea, boycott Nike because football man wouldn't stand for the special song.
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And yet leftists are currently out purchasing Nike products. Which just proves that you never really had a problem with the sweatshops all along.
 
"A black guy was just killed sitting in his own apartment by a cop.

That's the discussion and the point".

I see cawacky is still running from this and wants to change the narrative to econimics.

What is the republican party doing about Black police brutality?
 
TTQ64 said:
"A black guy was just killed sitting in his own apartment by a cop.

That's the discussion and the point".

I see cawacky is still running from this and wants to change the narrative to econimics.

What is the republican party doing about Black police brutality?
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Burning their old used Nike gear. lol

Mr. Owl just bought him a pair of Nike cross-trainers. Despite Toxic Top's claims to the contrary, they did not cost $300. In fact, they were under $100.
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
Burning their old used Nike gear. lol

Mr. Owl just bought him a pair of Nike cross-trainers. Despite Toxic Top's claims to the contrary, they did not cost $300. In fact, they were under $100.
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Yup, you can find inexpensive Nike products in Khols...........they exaggerate everything.
 
An off duty cop enters the wrong apartment and murders someone and I'm running? Please do share TTQ64, what am I running from?

Will "LWNJ" be giving me hugs in SF now as I walk around wearing my Nike gear because I'm so woke?
 
blackascoal said:
I disagree with much of that.

First, Kaepernick talks about racial injustice far more then economic injustice .. which is not the point of his protest. Talking about economic injustice, which is an entirely different subject, detracts from the real point of his argument. It doesn't matter how much money one makes, if you are black, the police may kill you because of it and for no other reason. THAT is the point.

A black company of any kind is not going have the same power behind the message as NIKE .. because NIKE is not a black company. What makes you think a message of civility and justice should only be spoken by black people?

Economic empowerment has nothing to do with the central issue .. and it only comes up now that Nike is in the game.

Your argument that it's better done by regular people than athletes again misses the point. Did LeBron open up a gymnasium, or did he open up a school? Do you think the only thing on the curriculum is basketball or sports?
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What makes you think a message of civility and justice should only be spoken by black people?

Isn't that rather obvious? Our authoritarian power structure has always sought division amongst the unsubstantial people. If it's ONLY black folk it can be written off by an institutionally white supremacist society. Not that these folk have any issues with intellectual dishonesty, but that's a more difficult lie to maintain if all of us are standing up for a more just and equal political/economic system and a healthier more united society.

Unfortunately as history bears out, the oppressed have always had to be the moral conscience of this society and any progress toward a more open and democratic society has always been bought with the blood of the oppressed.
 
Fentoine Lum said:
What makes you think a message of civility and justice should only be spoken by black people?

Isn't that rather obvious? Our authoritarian power structure has always sought division amongst the unsubstantial people. If it's ONLY black folk it can be written off by an institutionally white supremacist society. Not that these folk have any issues with intellectual dishonesty, but that's a more difficult lie to maintain if all of us are standing up for a more just and equal political/economic system and a healthier more united society.

Unfortunately as history bears out, the oppressed have always had to be the moral conscience of this society and any progress toward a more open and democratic society has always been bought with the blood of the oppressed.
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Well said .. and it is indeed obvious.

I was looking for him to acknowledge that truth.
 
TOP Derangement Syndrome
An affliction suffered by several on this board.

She lives rent-free in your head. You can't get through a thread without mentioning her name.

Her mere existence makes you melt down. Funny.
"I imagine somehow that wearing the burqa could be liberating in a way." ThatOldWoman on Islamic treatment of women.

No plan for Kaepernick shoes or gear....wonder why? lol
 
cawacko said:
An off duty cop enters the wrong apartment and murders someone and I'm running? Please do share TTQ64, what am I running from?

Will "LWNJ" be giving me hugs in SF now as I walk around wearing my Nike gear because I'm so woke?
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At least that's the lie she's telling. She's the reason Kap is kneeling, not economics.

What is the republican party, the party you support, doing about police brutality against Blacks?
 
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