Psycho-pathology of Trump Supporters

Mott the Hoople said:
Yes we do thanks to our Republican controlled legislature. It's almost as stupid as building a wall on the Mexican border. You have to show shit loads of ID when you register to vote and when you vote you have to give your signature that you voted. Simple comparison of signature at the poll to that you registered with would catch any ineligible voter. Considering that the incidence of voter fraud is so low it's just plain silly. It's no great burden but it's really just conservatives showing their ass that they can inconvenience you with a solution looking for a problem.
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Come on Mott, this is the real reason:

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It's None of that. It's just someone, one person, willing to admit globalization goes too far sometimes. Nobody has even said it for fourty years. It's really that simple.
 
Mott the Hoople said:
Yes we do thanks to our Republican controlled legislature. It's almost as stupid as building a wall on the Mexican border. You have to show shit loads of ID when you register to vote and when you vote you have to give your signature that you voted. Simple comparison of signature at the poll to that you registered with would catch any ineligible voter. Considering that the incidence of voter fraud is so low it's just plain silly. It's no great burden but it's really just conservatives showing their ass that they can inconvenience you with a solution looking for a problem.
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So can you explain why there isn't some consistency in national elections?
 
PoliTalker said:
Hello Darth,



I still don't understand how releasing information caused the Special Prosecutor to be appointed.

Do you believe Rosenstein acts according to public opinion polls?

I thought his job was evidence-based.

Even if this is a crime, and Strzok is brought to justice for it, that doesn't mean the appointment of the Special Prosecutor is in jeopardy or should not be completed. Is that the line of dots you're trying to connect? Sorry, I don't see that happening.
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Comey leaked his memo ‘with the hope it would lead to an SP’, so you need to ask him how it works lol. It certainly appears as though Comey and some others in the alphabet agencies were determined to keep the Russian narrative stirred up. If there was any real merit to it, why would they feel compelled to leak about FISA warrants?

Those are supposed to be secret, btw. If it’s legal to leak about FISA warrants I’ll be very surprised. Why would Strzok risk breaking laws to keep the Russian narrative going?

Regarding Rosenstein: I don’t trust him. Rosenstein signed-off on the fourth FISA warrant. When asked by Congress if he read the warrant before signed it, he said no. Bloody hell. Think about that: Rosenstein was presented with a warrant to spy on someone involved with a major presidential campaign *late in the campaign* and he didn’t read the warrant?!

Something isn’t right. Rosenstein is either grossly incompetent or he’s hiding something. He also needs to recuse because he’s a potential witness if Mullet wants to charge Trump with obstruction of justice.

Regarding Strzok and the Mullet investigation: If Strzok was just a random agent assigned to the investigation, that would be one thing. The problem is Strzok was in charge of the initial Russian investigation which started as [and likely has always remained—by the looks of it] a counterintelligence investigation. Strzok answered to McCabe and Comey but it was his investigation to manage.

If Strzok was engaged in criminal behavior, as the lead investigator of the Russian investigation, then it becomes a case of fruit of the poisoned tree as far as the Mueller investigation goes. Even if that principle is ignored, the political damage done to it will be considerable.

Impeachment is a political process.
 
Mott the Hoople said:
Yes we do thanks to our Republican controlled legislature. It's almost as stupid as building a wall on the Mexican border. You have to show shit loads of ID when you register to vote and when you vote you have to give your signature that you voted. Simple comparison of signature at the poll to that you registered with would catch any ineligible voter. Considering that the incidence of voter fraud is so low it's just plain silly. It's no great burden but it's really just conservatives showing their ass that they can inconvenience you with a solution looking for a problem.
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Stop lying.
 
Darth Omar said:
Comey leaked his memo ‘with the hope it would lead to an SP’, so you need to ask him how it works lol. It certainly appears as though Comey and some others in the alphabet agencies were determined to keep the Russian narrative stirred up. If there was any real merit to it, why would they feel compelled to leak about FISA warrants?

Those are supposed to be secret, btw. If it’s legal to leak about FISA warrants I’ll be very surprised. Why would Strzok risk breaking laws to keep the Russian narrative going?

Regarding Rosenstein: I don’t trust him. Rosenstein signed-off on the fourth FISA warrant. When asked by Congress if he read the warrant before signed it, he said no. Bloody hell. Think about that: Rosenstein was presented with a warrant to spy on someone involved with a major presidential campaign *late in the campaign* and he didn’t read the warrant?!

Something isn’t right. Rosenstein is either grossly incompetent or he’s hiding something. He also needs to recuse because he’s a potential witness if Mullet wants to charge Trump with obstruction of justice.

Regarding Strzok and the Mullet investigation: If Strzok was just a random agent assigned to the investigation, that would be one thing. The problem is Strzok was in charge of the initial Russian investigation which started as [and likely has always remained—by the looks of it] a counterintelligence investigation. Strzok answered to McCabe and Comey but it was his investigation to manage.

If Strzok was engaged in criminal behavior, as the lead investigator of the Russian investigation, then it becomes a case of fruit of the poisoned tree as far as the Mueller investigation goes. Even if that principle is ignored, the political damage done to it will be considerable.

Impeachment is a political process.
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:thumbsup: post of the week. well laid out and hitting all the right reasons why the FBI investigation,
and the SC are corrupt/illegitimate
 
Mott the Hoople said:
Telling me I have to provide an ID when voting when I proved that when I registered is redundant and not necessary, so it is both an annoyance , an inconvienence bordering on harrasment and a burden and since what problem does it solve? It doesn't. It's a statistically insignificant problem.

This is exactly what is meant by the "rationalizations based on fear" that Trump Supporters who exhibit the prejudice and intergroup contact psycho-pathologies project.
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Such a great point.

Trump likes to talk about "rigging the system." That's exactly what Republicans have done w/ voting over the past decade+. Gerrymandering, suppressing voting rights, creating what you have correctly called "solutions" to problems that don't exist. It's really an affront to democracy.

I question the patriotism of those who support these kinds of measure MUCH more than I question that of NFL players who kneel for a minute.
 
Mott the Hoople said:
I’m not sure I understand your question.
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Simple enough, why isn't there one system across the nation for verification of iDs, rather than a hotchpotch in the various states? These states including California and New York do not require any firm of ID.

No ID required to vote at ballot box: California, Illinois, Iowa, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Minnesota, Nebraska, Nevada, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, North Carolina, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Vermont, West Virginia, Wyoming, and Washington, D.C.
 
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noise said:
they might have a national ID card? We do it state by state ( just guessing)

damn near everyone has ID in the states, you can't do much of anything without it, especially since after 9-11.
The Dems want you to believe there are these mass of poor people that function without one.
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What ID do you need to get welfare or food stamps?
 
Havana Moon said:
Simple enough, why isn't there one system across the nation for verification of iDs, rather than a hotchpotch in the various states?
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The case for a national ID card
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...ory.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.886e332f0676

an effective solution would be to issue tamper-proof, biometric ID cards — using fingerprints or a comparably unique identifier — to all citizens and legal residents. Last week, both President Obama and a bipartisan group of eight senators seeking immigration reform urged something along those lines, without calling it a universal national identity card. That’s a major step forward.

The senators proposed requiring job applicants to demonstrate legal status and identity by “non-forgeable electronic means,” along with “safeguards to protect American workers, prevent identity theft, and provide due process protections.” The president proposed a “fraud-resistant, tamper-resistant Social Security card,” among other secure documents, to prove work eligibility.

Critics on both the civil-liberties left and the libertarian right have long resisted such cards as the embodiment of a Big Brother brand of government, omniscient, invasive and tentacular. Their criticisms ring hollow.
 
Thing1 said:
Such a great point.

Trump likes to talk about "rigging the system." That's exactly what Republicans have done w/ voting over the past decade+. Gerrymandering, suppressing voting rights, creating what you have correctly called "solutions" to problems that don't exist. It's really an affront to democracy.

I question the patriotism of those who support these kinds of measure MUCH more than I question that of NFL players who kneel for a minute.
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You're such an unpatriotic bullshitter.
 
Havana Moon said:
Simple enough, why isn't there one system across the nation for verification of iDs, rather than a hotchpotch in the various states? These states including California and New York do not require any firm of ID.

No ID required to vote at ballot box: California, Illinois, Iowa, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Minnesota, Nebraska, Nevada, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, North Carolina, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Vermont, West Virginia, Wyoming, and Washington, D.C.
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Because Tom you have to identify yourself when you register to vote and verification is as easy as your signature.
 
Mott the Hoople said:
Because Tom you have to identify yourself when you register to vote and verification is as easy as your signature.
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So why the vast differences, surely it is not beyond the wit of man, or woman, to have a common system throughout the US? These states have implemented photo ID!

Arkansas, Georgia, Indiana, Kansas, Mississippi, Tennessee, Virginia, and Wisconsin
 
noise said:
:thumbsup: post of the week. well laid out and hitting all the right reasons why the FBI investigation,
and the SC are corrupt/illegitimate
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People call those facts a conspiracy theory.

It’s actually a fact-pattern that is begging for a real investigation.
 
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