What happens when you privatize education

[Micawber]

https://www.bbc.com/news/av/education-45477624/bright-tribe-walks-out-of-panorama-interview

Bright Tribe walks out of Panorama interview
A BBC investigation has discovered that a leading academy chain has made false claims for government grants.

BBC Panorama found that Bright Tribe Trust – which runs 10 schools in England - received public money for work that was either not finished or never done.

Its founder Michael Dwan told Panorama that the required work had been completed, before stopping the interview.

The Trust, which is now under new management, says it has commissioned independent investigations into how Bright Tribe was run.



They steal the taxpayer's money and leave the children idiots.

Havana Moon is thread banned

 

[iolo]

What happens when you privatize education

The best example you could have is the UK. Private education gives you frequent tory governments, and they are very dire indeed.

 

[ThatOwlWoman]

On the old Amazon forum there was a gal who was a public high school teacher in Louisiana, where parents can receive vouchers to send their kids to private schools. She taught English and was politically conservative. She said that the high schools often saw the results of children sent to some of those schools, and that they weren't pretty. By high school students should be reading and studying classic literature; instead they were having to take remedial English classes because their reading and comprehension skills were far below those of their public school-educated peers. She also said that unscrupulous "educators" would open up store-front private schools, collect the fees, then vanish with the money. From what she said, Louisiana has no laws in place that regulate the academics and testing to show progress of these schools, or for home-schoolers for that matter.

 

[Irish Exit]

https://www.bbc.com/news/av/education-45477624/bright-tribe-walks-out-of-panorama-interview

Bright Tribe walks out of Panorama interview
A BBC investigation has discovered that a leading academy chain has made false claims for government grants.

BBC Panorama found that Bright Tribe Trust – which runs 10 schools in England - received public money for work that was either not finished or never done.

Its founder Michael Dwan told Panorama that the required work had been completed, before stopping the interview.

The Trust, which is now under new management, says it has commissioned independent investigations into how Bright Tribe was run.



They steal the taxpayer's money and leave the children idiots.

Havana Moon is thread banned

It is a truncated interview that only deals with fire safety. I see nothing in the clip that suggests the children are left idiots. Regardless of how the schools are managed, I do believe the British model of schools focused on certain areas of interest is a good model to build off of.

 

[cawacko]

https://www.bbc.com/news/av/education-45477624/bright-tribe-walks-out-of-panorama-interview

Bright Tribe walks out of Panorama interview
A BBC investigation has discovered that a leading academy chain has made false claims for government grants.

BBC Panorama found that Bright Tribe Trust – which runs 10 schools in England - received public money for work that was either not finished or never done.

Its founder Michael Dwan told Panorama that the required work had been completed, before stopping the interview.

The Trust, which is now under new management, says it has commissioned independent investigations into how Bright Tribe was run.



They steal the taxpayer's money and leave the children idiots.

Havana Moon is thread banned

It's a hell of an argument you make for the educational status quo in America

 

[Irish Exit]

On the old Amazon forum there was a gal who was a public high school teacher in Louisiana, where parents can receive vouchers to send their kids to private schools. She taught English and was politically conservative. She said that the high schools often saw the results of children sent to some of those schools, and that they weren't pretty. By high school students should be reading and studying classic literature; instead they were having to take remedial English classes because their reading and comprehension skills were far below those of their public school-educated peers. She also said that unscrupulous "educators" would open up store-front private schools, collect the fees, then vanish with the money. From what she said, Louisiana has no laws in place that regulate the academics and testing to show progress of these schools, or for home-schoolers for that matter.

And my public high school was still teaching seniors to add and subtract in the Food Services program or whatever the hell it was they called the future cafeteria workers of america vocational program.

 

[countryboy]

On the old Amazon forum there was a gal who was a public high school teacher in Louisiana, where parents can receive vouchers to send their kids to private schools. She taught English and was politically conservative. She said that the high schools often saw the results of children sent to some of those schools, and that they weren't pretty. By high school students should be reading and studying classic literature; instead they were having to take remedial English classes because their reading and comprehension skills were far below those of their public school-educated peers. She also said that unscrupulous "educators" would open up store-front private schools, collect the fees, then vanish with the money. From what she said, Louisiana has no laws in place that regulate the academics and testing to show progress of these schools, or for home-schoolers for that matter.

Cool story, but anecdotal. Do you have any actual data to back it up?

 

[ThatOwlWoman]

Cool story, but anecdotal. Do you have any actual data to back it up?

https://www.chalkbeat.org/posts/us/...but-they-also-might-boost-college-enrollment/

 

[Eagle_Eye]

On the old Amazon forum there was a gal who was a public high school teacher in Louisiana, where parents can receive vouchers to send their kids to private schools. She taught English and was politically conservative. She said that the high schools often saw the results of children sent to some of those schools, and that they weren't pretty. By high school students should be reading and studying classic literature; instead they were having to take remedial English classes because their reading and comprehension skills were far below those of their public school-educated peers. She also said that unscrupulous "educators" would open up store-front private schools, collect the fees, then vanish with the money. From what she said, Louisiana has no laws in place that regulate the academics and testing to show progress of these schools, or for home-schoolers for that matter.

 

[iolo]

'But poor old Goebbels had no balls at all!' I always wonder if these trumping arse-lickers get paid anything, or is it just a compensatory activity?

 

[ThatOwlWoman]

'But poor od Goebbels had no balls at all!' I always wonder if these trumping arse-lickers get paid anything, or is it just a compensatory activity?

Heheheh. Most of 'em are retired like I am, living on that socialist Social Security.

 

[tinfoil]

On the old Amazon forum there was a gal who was a public high school teacher in Louisiana, where parents can receive vouchers to send their kids to private schools. She taught English and was politically conservative. She said that the high schools often saw the results of children sent to some of those schools, and that they weren't pretty. By high school students should be reading and studying classic literature; instead they were having to take remedial English classes because their reading and comprehension skills were far below those of their public school-educated peers. She also said that unscrupulous "educators" would open up store-front private schools, collect the fees, then vanish with the money. From what she said, Louisiana has no laws in place that regulate the academics and testing to show progress of these schools, or for home-schoolers for that matter.

I went to a private catholic school from 1st to 6th grade in the midwest before going to public schools in Portland OR. I was a couple of years ahead having learned a lot of stuff already so I got bored and slacked until 8th grade when I finally started learning new stuff again. My experience with private school was that it was better for learning. Public school was more fun and more interesting. I can't decide which is more important

 

[ThatOwlWoman]

Poor Angry Bird.

Today, 08:48 AM
Grumpty-Dumpty
Trumpsucker

This message is hidden because this Trump toady is on your ignore list.

 

[ThatOwlWoman]

I went to a private catholic school from 1st to 6th grade in the midwest before going to public schools in Portland OR. I was a couple of years ahead having learned a lot of stuff already so I got bored and slacked until 8th grade when I finally started learning new stuff again. My experience with private school was that it was better for learning. Public school was more fun and more interesting. I can't decide which is more important

Catholic schools are generally well-regarded for excellence in teaching. Do you think though that taxpayers should be paying parents to send their kids to schools that are religiously-oriented?

 

[Phantasmal]

I went to a private catholic school from 1st to 6th grade in the midwest before going to public schools in Portland OR. I was a couple of years ahead having learned a lot of stuff already so I got bored and slacked until 8th grade when I finally started learning new stuff again. My experience with private school was that it was better for learning. Public school was more fun and more interesting. I can't decide which is more important

Not greatly depends on the state and their requirements for private schools. There are some states that have higher standards than others.

 

[iolo]

I went to a private catholic school from 1st to 6th grade in the midwest before going to public schools in Portland OR. I was a couple of years ahead having learned a lot of stuff already so I got bored and slacked until 8th grade when I finally started learning new stuff again. My experience with private school was that it was better for learning. Public school was more fun and more interesting. I can't decide which is more important

When we moved up to Shropshire and (briefly) felt rich, I was sent, much aginst my will, to a school founded in 1410 which had, all the same, never made it to the Headmasters Conference, (the definer of our 'public' schools. We discovered that because it costs, the mugs value it. I came top in everything at the end of the first term, so my father said at once, 'That school is obviously no good!' He was right, if for the wrong reason! I at least to understand something of how homosexuality develops in restricted environments!

 

[Ralph]

https://www.bbc.com/news/av/education-45477624/bright-tribe-walks-out-of-panorama-interview

Bright Tribe walks out of Panorama interview
A BBC investigation has discovered that a leading academy chain has made false claims for government grants.

BBC Panorama found that Bright Tribe Trust – which runs 10 schools in England - received public money for work that was either not finished or never done.

Its founder Michael Dwan told Panorama that the required work had been completed, before stopping the interview.

The Trust, which is now under new management, says it has commissioned independent investigations into how Bright Tribe was run.



They steal the taxpayer's money and leave the children idiots.

Havana Moon is thread banned

Sure you have "thieves"......just like the Teachers Unions and Tenure.....what's the difference? The real problem? With private education there can be no state indoctrination. The decline of education only became a problem when the feds began directing the show. Today the US spends more on per capita student in relation to education than any other industrialized nation....what do we the people have to show for it....a dumb downed illiterate generation of snowflakes that can't read at an 8th grade education level after graduating college.

 

[tinfoil]

Catholic schools are generally well-regarded for excellence in teaching. Do you think though that taxpayers should be paying parents to send their kids to schools that are religiously-oriented?

I think no. And I think it's a shame, too. But I am with the side of separation of church and state. Take out the church and all you have is a business that hires good teachers so their reputation is maintained. It would be good to use that part of the formula.

 

[iolo]

Sure you have "thieves"......just like the Teachers Unions and Tenure.....what's the difference? The real problem? With private education there can be no state indoctrination. The decline of education only became a problem when the feds began directing the show. Today the US spends more on per capita student in relation to education than any other industrialized nation....what do we the people have to show for it....a dumb downed illiterate generation of snowflakes that can't read at an 8th grade education level after graduating college.

Teachers don't control schools, unfortunately. The difficulty with you is that your private education is, where successful, extremely expensive, and that your public education is controlled by the capitalist state and unable to teach the truth. Your whole society is forced to live in an unreal fantasy, lest someone should diminish the thieves profits, as you know!

 

[Ralph]

Teachers don't control schools, unfortunately. The difficulty with you is that your private education is, where successful, extremely expensive, and that your public education is controlled by the capitalist state and unable to teach the truth. Your whole society is forced to live in an unreal fantasy, lest someone should diminish the thieves profits, as you know!

Teachers don't control the quality of education? See......dumb downed snowflakes. And of course.....there was not a recent history of TEACHERS shutting down entire states via STRIKE...nope that was just a conspiracy. Question? How's that Muslim problem coming along in your socialist utopia?