President Trump Has Shamed The Office. We Need Somebody Who Upholds Family Values.

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He cheated on Melania.

He is unfit to serve in the role of our leader.

He is a bad leader.

He leads us into cheating and lying.

He has no morality.

We need him gone.
 
PoliTalker said:
He cheated on Melania.

He is unfit to serve in the role of our leader.

He is a bad leader.

He leads us into cheating and lying.

He has no morality.

We need him gone.
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What america needs is an economic/political system that upholds family values rather than one focused upon redistribution of more and more societal wealth to the Wall Street/donor/"job creator" class. But I do agree, american society is following Don down into the dysfunctional abyss. Still, I would argue Don is a symptom, not the ultimate problem which has at this point metastasized.
 
But it was decided way back in the 90s with Bill Clinton and his mess that it didn't matter about a man's morality. Cheating Bill was still a great president. Lying Bill was still the greatest democrat president ever!
 
tinfoil said:
But it was decided way back in the 90s with Bill Clinton and his mess that it didn't matter about a man's morality. Cheating Bill was still a great president. Lying Bill was still the greatest democrat president ever!
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America's last liberal president was Nixon.
 
Hello tinfoil,

tinfoil said:
But it was decided way back in the 90s with Bill Clinton and his mess that it didn't matter about a man's morality. Cheating Bill was still a great president. Lying Bill was still the greatest democrat president ever!
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I disagree.

Bill Clinton was never elected again after the scandal. And neither was Hillary.
 
PoliTalker said:
Hello tinfoil,



I disagree.

Bill Clinton was never elected again after the scandal. And neither was Hillary.
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That doesn't change the fact that the excuse for not removing Clinton after impeachment was that it (cheating/lying) didn't affect his job performance... It didn't matter. The message went out to everyone that you can be that dirtbag who cheats on his wife and people will still support you.
 
Hello tinfoil,

tinfoil said:
That doesn't change the fact that the excuse for not removing Clinton after impeachment was that it (cheating/lying) didn't affect his job performance... It didn't matter. The message went out to everyone that you can be that dirtbag who cheats on his wife and people will still support you.
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That's not saying much. The President represents us. We need somebody admirable, with good values.

Hey. People supported Nixon.

If David Duke ran for Pres he would get some support.

That doesn't mean we should elect him.
 
PoliTalker said:
Hello tinfoil,



That's not saying much. The President represents us. We need somebody admirable, with good values.

Hey. People supported Nixon.

If David Duke ran for Pres he would get some support.

That doesn't mean we should elect him.
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what d o you mean about Nixon?
 
I would not impeach Trump for sexual immorality.
It is up to Melania if she wants to stay with this orange hog.

Trump should not be president because of gross incompetence, lack of intelligence, lack of the character and disposition needed, and because he lost the popular vote by millions and does not have the consent of the governed.

With that said, attempts to draw moral equivalency between Donald Trump and Bill Clinton do not pass the laugh test.

Bill Clinton has been married to one woman for 40+ years, and apparently had a handful of consensual affairs.
Trump has been married three times, has probably had countless affairs, and bribed women to keep their mouths shut. But worst of all, Trump has shown throughout his life a complete disregard for females, and only finding their worth in their physical appearance and boob size. Nothing unusual about appreciated female allure, but President Pussy Grabber has led of life of materialism and hedonism that discounts basic respect for females as well as for other human beings.
 
Cypress said:
I would not impeach Trump for sexual immorality.
It is up to Melania if she wants to stay with this orange hog.

Trump should not be president because of gross incompetence, lack of intelligence, lack of the character and disposition needed, and because he lost the popular vote by millions and does not have the consent of the governed.

With that said, attempts to draw moral equivalency between Donald Trump and Bill Clinton do not pass the laugh test.

Bill Clinton has been married to one woman for 40+ years, and apparently had a handful of consensual affairs.
Trump has been married three times, has probably had countless affairs, and bribed women to keep their mouths shut. But worst of all, Trump has shown throughout his life a complete disregard for females, and only finding their worth in their physical appearance and boob size. Nothing unusual about appreciated female allure, but President Pussy Grabber has led of life of materialism and hedonism that discounts basic respect for females as well as for other human beings.
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Yea the fact that he'll stick his Dick in anything is Melania problem, probably explains his Sons. :rolleyes:
 
PoliTalker said:
Hello tinfoil,



That's not saying much. The President represents us. We need somebody admirable, with good values.

Hey. People supported Nixon.

If David Duke ran for Pres he would get some support.

That doesn't mean we should elect him.
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Hey, I agree with you, but the fact remains that the media convinced us it didn't matter back then. That explains why people don't give a shit. If we somehow decide that it matters again, then we have to stick with it mattering, instead of selectively being concerned about it.
 
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Brett Kavanaugh turns his back to Fred Guttenberg, whose daughter Jamie was murdered in the Parkland shooting.
 
Cypress said:
I would not impeach Trump for sexual immorality.
It is up to Melania if she wants to stay with this orange hog.

Trump should not be president because of gross incompetence, lack of intelligence, lack of the character and disposition needed, and because he lost the popular vote by millions and does not have the consent of the governed.

With that said, attempts to draw moral equivalency between Donald Trump and Bill Clinton do not pass the laugh test.

Bill Clinton has been married to one woman for 40+ years, and apparently had a handful of consensual affairs.
Trump has been married three times, has probably had countless affairs, and bribed women to keep their mouths shut. But worst of all, Trump has shown throughout his life a complete disregard for females, and only finding their worth in their physical appearance and boob size. Nothing unusual about appreciated female allure, but President Pussy Grabber has led of life of materialism and hedonism that discounts basic respect for females as well as for other human beings.
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That was specifically part of the thread topic. And the moral equivalency I drew was between the excuses and the condemnation of the same behaviors by the same people. The media
 
Hello tinfoil,

tinfoil said:
Hey, I agree with you, but the fact remains that the media convinced us it didn't matter back then. That explains why people don't give a shit.
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It only explains why some people don't.

tinfoil said:
If we somehow decide that it matters again, then we have to stick with it mattering, instead of selectively being concerned about it.
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It has always mattered to moral people.
 
Cypress said:
I would not impeach Trump for sexual immorality.
It is up to Melania if she wants to stay with this orange hog.

Trump should not be president because of gross incompetence, lack of intelligence, lack of the character and disposition needed, and because he lost the popular vote by millions and does not have the consent of the governed.

With that said, attempts to draw moral equivalency between Donald Trump and Bill Clinton do not pass the laugh test.

Bill Clinton has been married to one woman for 40+ years, and apparently had a handful of consensual affairs.
Trump has been married three times, has probably had countless affairs, and bribed women to keep their mouths shut. But worst of all, Trump has shown throughout his life a complete disregard for females, and only finding their worth in their physical appearance and boob size. Nothing unusual about appreciated female allure, but President Pussy Grabber has led of life of materialism and hedonism that discounts basic respect for females as well as for other human beings.
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*applause* Well said.
 
tinfoil said:
But it was decided way back in the 90s with Bill Clinton and his mess that it didn't matter about a man's morality. Cheating Bill was still a great president. Lying Bill was still the greatest democrat president ever!
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Hmm. I did not vote for him the 2nd term solely because of the Lewinsky crap. Yes, he was good for the economy, plus we had a stretch of peace time which is always a good thing. But that stuff, in the WH even more? Nope.
 
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