We're talking about the Steele Dossier. But your attempted diversion is noted. It's pretty obvious why you're doing that; you know your goose is cooked in this argument but your ego won't let you concede.
Get over yourself.
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Papadopoulos Urged to Withdraw Guilty Plea – Was Set Up By Deep State Spies
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We're talking about the Steele Dossier. But your attempted diversion is noted. It's pretty obvious why you're doing that; you know your goose is cooked in this argument but your ego won't let you concede.
Get over yourself.
Darth Omar
Russian asset
That's because you didn't provide any proof or links to your assertions. None of those have been proven. And many are hunches created by you and other lefties.
Muller so far hasn't turned anything up, except a stupid banking case against Manafort. Which is a pretty far stretch from Russia Collusion.
You forgot about the score of Russians indicted by Mullet that we now have to presume to be innocent under the law lol.
Darth Omar
Russian asset
We're talking about the Steele Dossier. But your attempted diversion is noted. It's pretty obvious why you're doing that; you know your goose is cooked in this argument but your ego won't let you concede.
Get over yourself.
Go study logic lol. It’s clearly not your strong suit.
That's because you didn't provide any proof or links to your assertions.
What assertion specifically, would you like proof of? I'm happy to link to all the points in the below, though the question is whether or not you're adult enough to admit you're full of shit.
None of those have been proven. And many are hunches created by you and other lefties.
What hasn't been proven? What are you talking about? This is exactly what I was talking about in the post you responded to; how your strategy seems to be blanket denial and obfuscation. So lazy. No work ethic at all. Totally reflective of your poor abilities and poor skills as a human being.
Muller so far hasn't turned anything up, except a stupid banking case against Manafort. Which is a pretty far stretch from Russia Collusion.
The financial crimes provide the motive for why Manafort did what he did; he sold out this nation to oligarchs because he wanted to make money and live a lavish lifestyle. So that's why he conspired with Russia; he was broke and needed money and Russia was happy to provide it and help him launder it.
Darth Omar
Russian asset
Yes, there was:
And we know what those official documents and information were because Scavino tweeted about them on May 11th, 2016:
Whoopsie Poopsie!
Scavino told us they were stolen e-mails on May 11th, and that they were stolen by Russia -the same "Russia" whose government Goldstone and Uday say in their e-mail exchange.
Scavino was a Trump campaign official.
Goldstone would slur Trump Sr.’s name in an email to Junior lol?
You’re trying to connect dots that may or may not go together. Change your SN to Glenn Beck.
It’s a lie that I ever came off adoptions.
LOL!
You're here arguing that the meeting was a "nothingburger" because nothing came of it. And I'm not sure why you think that when, a few weeks after the meeting, the subject of that meeting (hacked e-mails) were dumped by Wikileaks during the Democratic Convention, when they would do the most damage to the party's unity.
So now your position was that the Trump Tower meeting was about "adoptions"? You know that it wasn't, right?
Go study logic lol. It’s clearly not your strong suit.
"Truth is not truth"
Goldstone would slur Trump Sr.’s name in an email to Junior lol?
Here's that obfuscation tactic again. It's one you employ to try and avoid answering to the reality of what you're defending; a traitor and conman who took you for a ride and preyed on your resentment and gullibility.
Goldstone and Uday both discuss the "official documents and information" that Scavino tweeted on May 11th were stolen by Russia.
Remember, this meeting was supposed to be about "adoption", as Trump tried to falsely dictate and to which Uday provided false testimony to Congress and Mueller.
Obviously, it wasn't about "adoptions" and was about the "stolen e-mails" Scavino tweeted Russia had.
Bruce Ohr was funneling the same info - his meeting with Glen Simpson show that by his Emails.So the FBI wasn't using the Steele dossier in its investigations, then, since McCain leaked it to Comey after the election.
So there goes your talking point that the FISA warrants were based on the Steele dossier, the dossier that McCain gave to Comey well after the FISA warrants had already been issued.
So you have a timeline problem; one that completely undermines your entire argument. The Steele dossier couldn't have been used to attain the FISA warrants since McCain gave the dossier to Comey after the election.
No, you're just a fucking liar who is trying to cover for Trump for some stupid reason.
Yahoo News was another suorce -but Yahoo got that from Steele also.. everything was based on Steele
little was verified. The FISA claims multiple sourcing but they were the same. IOW's the FBI had the info not just from McCain -but it all circled back to the Steele dossier
You are putting out half truths - idiotic claims of a conspiracy i'm not wasting my time going thru them.
https://www.investors.com/politics/...ele-dossier-trump-russia-carter-page-wiretap/
even the Washington Post admits that the dossier played "a prominent role" in the wiretap request. And we know that the FBI had corroborated none of the dossier claims before filing its application.
Manafort was a lobbyist for the Ukraine's "Party of Regions" not RussiaThe financial crimes provide the motive for why Manafort did what he did; he sold out this nation to oligarchs because he wanted to make money and live a lavish lifestyle. So that's why he conspired with Russia; he was broke and needed money and Russia was happy to provide it and help him launder it.
Bruce Ohr was funneling the same info - his meeting with Glen Simpson show that by his Emails.
Yahoo News was another suorce -but Yahoo got that from Steele also.. everything was based on Steele
NO IT WASN'T!
Steele testified that the FBI told him they already had much of what his dossier said.
That meeting between Steele and the FBI happened in September 2016.
The FBI had been investigating Russian attacks since June/July 2016, and Page had been under survelliance for a long time.
But again, what from the dossier has been proven untrue?
Nothing.
little was verified.
Show me that. From where are you getting this nugget? Seems to me you're just either repeating something you heard that sounded good to you, or you're just making shit up.
Darth Omar
Russian asset
"Truth is not truth"
I’m going to make some crap up, take it to the FISA court and claim ‘it hasn’t been disproven’.
They would charge me with malicious idiocy.
The FISA claims multiple sourcing but they were the same. IOW's the FBI had the info not just from McCain -but it all circled back to the Steele dossier
FFS.
You're such a fucking liar, it isn't even funny.
McCain gave Comey the Steele dossier after the election had already happened.
So this lie of yours, that FISA was using the Steele memo as the basis of its warrant applications, doesn't align with the timeline of events.
And furthermore, what from the Steele dossier is untrue?
Darth Omar
Russian asset
Here's that obfuscation tactic again. It's one you employ to try and avoid answering to the reality of what you're defending; a traitor and conman who took you for a ride and preyed on your resentment and gullibility.
Goldstone and Uday both discuss the "official documents and information" that Scavino tweeted on May 11th were stolen by Russia.
Remember, this meeting was supposed to be about "adoption", as Trump tried to falsely dictate and to which Uday provided false testimony to Congress and Mueller.
Obviously, it wasn't about "adoptions" and was about the "stolen e-mails" Scavino tweeted Russia had.
Obviously lol?
Which witnesses, who attended the meeting, testified that it was about stolen emails?
You are putting out half truths - idiotic claims of a conspiracy i'm not wasting my time going thru them.
Blanket denial and obfuscation; the two tactics I said you'd employ here, you have.
Fact is, nothing I said was untrue. The timeline is the timeline. So you screech about how unfair it is that all this evidence shows Trump's guilt, is basically what you're arguing. And that we should ignore everything that comes out about the conspiracy because McCain gave Comey the Steele dossier after the election.
even the Washington Post admits that the dossier played "a prominent role" in the wiretap request. And we know that the FBI had corroborated none of the dossier claims before filing its application.
What from the dossier has been proven untrue?
Also, the FBI already had most of the info Steele had, and even told him that in the fall of 2016.
Manafort was a lobbyist for the Ukraine's "Party of Regions" not Russia
That is a pro-Russian party, dingleberry.
I’m going to make some crap up, take it to the FISA court and claim ‘it hasn’t been disproven’.
Sigh...
The info in the Steele dossier was also uncovered by the FBI separately.
That's why the FBI told Steele in the fall of 2016 that they already had most of the info from his dossier.
And that is also why after the election, McCain leaked the Steele dossier directly to Comey.
So the FBI was conducting its own investigation and came to the same conclusions Steele did.
So they presented both to the FISA judges.
Obviously lol?
Yeah. They lied about the meeting being about "adoptions". Now they're saying the meeting was to get dirt on Clinton.
So....
At first, Trump denied anyone had any contacts with Russia
Then, Trump dictated a memo that the meeting at Trump Tower in June 2016 was about "adoptions"
Now, they're saying the meeting was to get dirt on Clinton, but not to concern ourselves with it because nothing came from it, so they say.
So why should we trust them when they say nothing came from the meeting they first denied ever happened, then said was about "adoptions"?