NFL Players Kneel, Raise Fists During National Anthem in Preseason Games

Gotcha68 said:
Is Chicago the only city some of you can use as an example to support whatever argument you are making?
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Because blacks are being killed in Chicago at an insane rate?

Just recently Chicago had 66 gun shot victims with 12 fatalities—in a single weekend! That’s insane. Not all were black but enough of them were you’d think the kneelers might put black on black crime on their list.

Myself and the co-workers have discussed what trauma call would be like in a Chicago hospital. I don’t know how many hospitals are in Chicago, but some of their ER’s have to resemble a MASH unit on busy weekends. Blood all over the floor, people being rushed into surgery—-or dying before they can get there, since the trauma team is tied up with another shooting.

It’s crazy. Do the kneelers ever talk about it? If we can figure out how to solve their other grievances do you think they’d get around to Chicago?
 
Gotcha68 said:
I read a comment somewhere that said, if you want to see how important that anthem is to these people then play it at the end of the game and see whether they are more interested in standing in respect or getting to the parking lot before the rush. (paraphrasing)
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The stadium would be virtually empty.
 
Darth Omar said:
Because blacks are being killed in Chicago at an insane rate?

Just recently Chicago had 66 gun shot victims with 12 fatalities—in a single weekend! That’s insane. Not all were black but enough of them were you’d think the kneelers might put black on black crime on their list.

Myself and the co-workers have discussed what trauma call would be like in a Chicago hospital. I don’t know how many hospitals are in Chicago, but some of their ER’s have to resemble a MASH unit on busy weekends. Blood all over the floor, people being rushed into surgery—-or dying before they can get there, since the trauma team is tied up with another shooting.

It’s crazy. Do the kneelers ever talk about it? If we can figure out how to solve their other grievances do you think they’d get around to Chicago?
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Most of the conversation surrounding crime involves black people, who selfishly take all of the credit for being criminals. Blacks are notorious for being called thugs and gangsters, but the real MVPs (Most Violent People) are whites. Everyday in cities across the country, people die at the hands of white people. What’s more, they’re killing their own kind. According to the US Department of Justice statistics, 84 percent of white people killed every year are killed by other whites. In 2011, there were more cases of whites killing whites than there were of blacks killing blacks. Between 1980 to 2008, a majority (53.3 percent) of gang-related murders were committed by white people, with a majority of the homicide victims being white as well.

In America, whites commit the majority of crimes. What’s even more troubling is that they are also responsible for a vast majority of violent crimes. In 2013, whites led all other groups in aggravated assault, larceny-theft, arson, weapons-carrying, and vandalism. When it comes to sexual assault, whites take the forcible rape cake. They are also more likely to kill children, the elderly, family members, their significant others, and even themselves! They commit more sex-related crimes, gang related crimes, and are more likely to kill at their places of employment. In 2013, an estimated 10,076 people died in the U.S. due to drunk driving crashes. Driving while drunk is almost exclusively a white crime because everyone knows black people prefer to drink on their porches or inside their homes.
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/kerry-coddett/white-on-white-crime-an-u_b_6771878.html

You fucking moron.
 
Frank Apisa said:
What kind of idiot would think that to be "logic."

If anything...it runs counter to logical!
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Really? So you think it's more 'logical' to shit on the flag in a venue which has nothing to do with your alleged grievance than take it to the places and people who actually had something to do with it?

I'm not surprised.
 
blackascoal said:
Most of the conversation surrounding crime involves black people, who selfishly take all of the credit for being criminals. Blacks are notorious for being called thugs and gangsters, but the real MVPs (Most Violent People) are whites. Everyday in cities across the country, people die at the hands of white people. What’s more, they’re killing their own kind. According to the US Department of Justice statistics, 84 percent of white people killed every year are killed by other whites. In 2011, there were more cases of whites killing whites than there were of blacks killing blacks. Between 1980 to 2008, a majority (53.3 percent) of gang-related murders were committed by white people, with a majority of the homicide victims being white as well.

In America, whites commit the majority of crimes. What’s even more troubling is that they are also responsible for a vast majority of violent crimes. In 2013, whites led all other groups in aggravated assault, larceny-theft, arson, weapons-carrying, and vandalism. When it comes to sexual assault, whites take the forcible rape cake. They are also more likely to kill children, the elderly, family members, their significant others, and even themselves! They commit more sex-related crimes, gang related crimes, and are more likely to kill at their places of employment. In 2013, an estimated 10,076 people died in the U.S. due to drunk driving crashes. Driving while drunk is almost exclusively a white crime because everyone knows black people prefer to drink on their porches or inside their homes.
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/kerry-coddett/white-on-white-crime-an-u_b_6771878.html

You fucking moron.
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We know you how bad you think white people suck lol.

The murder rate in Chicago is what it is. There is no explaining it away and it’s doing nothing but getting worse.

And the kneelers propose, nothing.
 
Stargazer said:
Really? So you think it's more 'logical' to shit on the flag in a venue which has nothing to do with your alleged grievance than take it to the places and people who actually had something to do with it?

I'm not surprised.
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You are not bright either.

I think the players chose the correct stage...and the fact that this is still being discussed as heatedly as it is...shows me that they did.

I also appreciate the help you guys and your Dear Leader are giving them.
 
Who’s behind the rise in crime? Could be Trump’s constituency: older whites

Donald Trump is right: Crime has gotten worse recently. From 2014 to 2015, as the U.S. population increased by less than 1%, the National Center for Health Statistics found that gun deaths rose by 7%, and homicides rose 8%. The FBI likewise reported a 4% jump in violent crime, including a 10% increase in homicides.

In raw numbers, 1,500 more homicides were reported in 2015 than in 2014. Preliminary trends indicate 2016 may be even worse. Though violent crime remains much lower today than in past decades, gun killings (36,000 in 2015) remain a persistent crisis.

However, Donald Trump is not right, as he has suggested on the campaign trail and repeated in Sunday's debate, that the chief culprits are Muslim terrorists, inner-city gangs and Latino "criminal illegal aliens" who comprise the "murderers" causing "drug problems" and "and crime like you've never seen." If he needs someone to blame, he should look instead to the demographic group most likely to support him: older whites.

FBI statistics show that the number of violent crime arrests in 2015 fell by about 2,000 among teenagers and young adults under age 30 even as they rose by 7,000 among older age groups. The Feds don't provide age-by-race breakdowns — but California does, and California may be a suitable proxy for what's going on across the country because it's experiencing similar overall trends.

Here's the racial-demographic data behind these increases: In 2015, murder arrests in California rose sharply among whites 30 and older (up 16%) but fell among people younger than 30 of all races (down 5%), including young people of color (also down 5%).

Violent crime, which includes murder, rape, robbery and assault, rose 4% among older whites but decreased by 2% among those under age 30, with younger African, Latino and Asian Americans showing the biggest drop (down 8%). Trends in violence rates among older Californians of color lay in between (up 3%).

In 2015, for the first time, as many whites 30 and older as younger people of color were sent to prison. These trends are also found nationally, where older whites have shown major increases in state and federal imprisonment over the last 15 years while younger ages of all races — and people of color of all ages — have shown declines.
http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-males-crime-rise-states-20161013-snap-story.html
 
Frank Apisa said:
You are not bright either.

I think the players chose the correct stage...and the fact that this is still being discussed as heatedly as it is...shows me that they did.

I also appreciate the help you guys and your Dear Leader are giving them.
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I'm bright enough to know......if you have a problem with someone, you take it up with that person/organization.

If I don't like Comcast, I don't show up on my job with signs protesting them - or I will be out of one. Stooop-id.

Of course libs are fans of anyone and anything that trashes or hates America, whether it be Mooslime terrorists or overpaid football players shitting on our flag.

That's why Trump won and why he will keep winning. Only you and your ilk are too dumb to see it.
 
Darth Omar said:
We know you how bad you think white people suck lol.

The murder rate in Chicago is what it is. There is no explaining it away and it’s doing nothing but getting worse.

And the kneelers propose, nothing.
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:0) What a fucking ignorant bitch of a man you are.

You want to talk about Chicago, but you run like a pussy from your own reflection.

You want to talk about crime, just not the crimes of your own degenerate fucks.

Kiss my ass bitch and run your ignorant racist away.
 
Stargazer said:
I'm bright enough to know......if you have a problem with someone, you take it up with that person/organization.

If I don't like Comcast, I don't show up on my job with signs protesting them - or I will be out of one. Stooop-id.

Of course libs are fans of anyone and anything that trashes or hates America, whether it be Mooslime terrorists or overpaid football players shitting on our flag.

That's why Trump won and why he will keep winning. Only you and your ilk are too dumb to see it.
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you racists are fucked


YOU HAVE STABBED THE REPUBLICAN PARTY TO DEATH WITH RACISM AND RUSSIAN HELP



you are so fucked in the head you don't even realize your whole shit is bleeding out
 
blackascoal said:
:0) What a fucking ignorant bitch of a man you are.

You want to talk about Chicago, but you run like a pussy from your own reflection.

You want to talk about crime, just not the crimes of your own degenerate fucks.

Kiss my ass bitch and run your ignorant racist away.
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What’s your final solution for the white plague lol?
 
evince said:
you racists are fucked


YOU HAVE STABBED THE REPUBLICAN PARTY TO DEATH WITH RACISM AND RUSSIAN HELP



you are so fucked in the head you don't even realize your whole shit is bleeding out
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The Obama race baiting heydeys are over. America haters lost and will keep losing. Bank on it.
 
‘Taking a knee’: An Army tradition
In the Army, taking a knee is a way of gaining perspective. The rest of us could use some of that.

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One of the oddities of the weekend’s uproar over players kneeling during the national anthem as a form of protest is that “taking a knee” is a military tradition, especially in the Army. I’ve heard it used most often as a way of pausing, taking a breather, and stepping back to consider the situation. I’ve also heard it used to mean taking a loose form of security during a pause in a patrol, as in the photo above.

“Ramrods, take a knee,” a grizzled sergeant major drawls to David Bellavia’s unit in Fallujah. “Men, I could not be more proud of you if you were my own kids.”
https://foreignpolicy.com/2017/09/25/taking-a-knee-an-army-tradition/

Did a U.S. Veteran Influence Kaepernick’s ‘Take a Knee’ Protest of Police Brutality?

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In September 2017, as many criticized the “take a knee” protests by National Football League players as anti-military, readers wrote in to ask if a veteran had played a role in Colin Kaepernick’s decision to kneel during the national anthem in protest of police killings of African Americans.

Army Special Forces veteran Nate Boyer has said that his conversations with Kaepernick influenced the former NFL player to kneel, rather than sit, during the anthem.

Kaepernick began his protest by sitting on the bench during the anthem prior to a preseason game on 14 August 2016 when he was playing for the San Francisco 49ers.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/veteran-kaepernick-take-a-knee-anthem/
 
Darth Omar said:
Because blacks are being killed in Chicago at an insane rate?

Just recently Chicago had 66 gun shot victims with 12 fatalities—in a single weekend! That’s insane. Not all were black but enough of them were you’d think the kneelers might put black on black crime on their list.

Myself and the co-workers have discussed what trauma call would be like in a Chicago hospital. I don’t know how many hospitals are in Chicago, but some of their ER’s have to resemble a MASH unit on busy weekends. Blood all over the floor, people being rushed into surgery—-or dying before they can get there, since the trauma team is tied up with another shooting.

It’s crazy. Do the kneelers ever talk about it? If we can figure out how to solve their other grievances do you think they’d get around to Chicago?
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They can address whatever issues they want to and you can address your issues. What's your personal grievance and how are you addressing it and does everyone around you agree that your personal issue is relevant and worth your time or that there are other issues more important that you should be addressing?
 
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