Right Wing Repugnants Once Argued Moral Grounds For Impeachment

[Flash]

Again, most of the time, it's because they're posturing. They say they're "hunters", but have rarely hunted. It's more about posturing than anything else. They're just as lazy couch potatoes as anyone else in America.

Whether a person is posturing is irrelevant to my point. If a group is talking and somebody brings up Tom and mentions he is a hunter or gun owner or religious fundamentalist or conservative Republican and group members smirk because they are critical of such people, it does not matter if Tom is posturing or not. That is an example of the intolerance I mentioned. Conservatives don't smirk as much as they just shake their head.

 

[Micawber]

I was saying some liberals are intolerant because they want to prohibit hate speech. I was just posting with a person recently who claimed hate speech is not constitutionally protected and can be punished and I argued that it is legal free speech.

"I hate you because you hate gay people"
"I hate gay people"

One has a higher purpose but they are both equally intolerant and full of hate. That makes them both counterproductive if one really wants to make things better. Being tolerant, friendly, sympathetic, and understanding could make changes in that person more readily than hating and insulting them which only leads to them become defensive. You are driving them away from change.

For some, telling others they are not prejudiced toward gays is more important than actually not being prejudiced. It gives them a feeling of moral superiority.

It's actually not. This is a stereotype. A pretty shitty one too. I live in Georgia. Hunting and fishing is just as common here as it is in New England.

You should see the bass pro shop in Memphis! I think the south embraces the stereotype. I like fishing, always have. I don’t think I would enjoy shooting .

 

[Micawber]

I was saying some liberals are intolerant because they want to prohibit hate speech. I was just posting with a person recently who claimed hate speech is not constitutionally protected and can be punished and I argued that it is legal free speech.

"I hate you because you hate gay people"
"I hate gay people"

One has a higher purpose but they are both equally intolerant and full of hate. That makes them both counterproductive if one really wants to make things better. Being tolerant, friendly, sympathetic, and understanding could make changes in that person more readily than hating and insulting them which only leads to them become defensive. You are driving them away from change.

For some, telling others they are not prejudiced toward gays is more important than actually not being prejudiced. It gives them a feeling of moral superiority.

So being intolerant of Nazis is as bad as being a Nazi?

Wwjd

 

[RB 60]

Are you kidding? They do that all the fucking time.

It's posturing to make you think they're rugged individualists when they're just dependent couch potatoes.

Would you like your ass kicked in this thread too?
I'm a gun owner...let's play

 

[Flash]

You should see the bass pro shop in Memphis! I think the south embraces the stereotype. I like fishing, always have. I don’t think I would enjoy shooting ��.

They have high school fishing teams where I live.

 

[cawacko]

Yeah, back in 2008 when the national sentiment over gay marriage was still negative. There was also a very dishonest campaign run out of Utah by Mormons who bullshitted and lied about Prop 8, even in court.




Prop 8 is the past. Since 2008, the national attitude on gay marriage has changed. So representing CA of 2008 is a reflection of CA intolerance in 2018 is a load of horseshit, and you know it.

If we are tolerant why weren't we ahead of the curve? Why did we have to wait for others to become tolerant before we did?

 

[cawacko]

Are you kidding? They do that all the fucking time.

It's posturing to make you think they're rugged individualists when they're just dependent couch potatoes.

Who does this? I live in a city not the country. No one brags about hunting or owning guns they brag about their education and how much money they have

 

[LV426]

Being tolerant, friendly, sympathetic, and understanding could make changes in that person more readily than hating and insulting them which only leads to them become defensive. You are driving them away from change.

Hugging Nazis doesn't work.

 

[cawacko]

Liberals would agree they are intolerant of hate speech. Why aren't you?

So once again, you're trying to say "intolerance" and "intolerance of intolerance" are the same thing. That way you can make a false equivalency in order to cast yourself as some sort of moderate trying to figure it out, when all you're doing is accommodating inherent intolerance among Conservatives.

Liberal "intolerance", by your own admission, is a reaction to something else. So liberals are reacting intolerantly to intolerant speech by Conservatives.

So how are they equivalent?

Bro, you wanted peoples kids to suffer and die because you didn't like how they voted. That's tolerance? Think like I do or you and your kin should suffer? By what definition?

 

[LV426]

That makes them both counterproductive if one really wants to make things better. Being tolerant, friendly, sympathetic, and understanding could make changes in that person more readily than hating and insulting them which only leads to them become defensive. You are driving them away from change.

So we should accommodate people with intolerant views because if we don't, they're just going to dig their heels in deeper? Are you kidding me? That plays right into the victimhood they assume for themselves. It's the 21st century, the time for coddling racists and bigots is over. We coddled them throughout Obama and they responded with Trump.

"Look what you made me do" doesn't work as a legitimate defense for wife-beaters, so why would it be a legitimate defense for bigotry and intolerance?

 

[LV426]

For some, telling others they are not prejudiced toward gays is more important than actually not being prejudiced. It gives them a feeling of moral superiority.

Accommodation, entitlement, coddling.

HARD PASS.

 

[LV426]

But it's cool to not support gay marriage right?

Jesus fucking Christ...that was ten fucking years ago, and since then the whole nation's attitude on gay marriage has shifted. If Prop 8 were up for a vote today in CA, do you think it would still barely pass?

 

[LV426]

Uneducated hick is an insult for which is the euphemism is true. It is an undeniable fact that the Trump base is composed largely of white males without college degrees from the country, whereas liberals are advantaged in urban and suburban enclaves with college ed and females.

Saying an uneducated hick is simply an insulting way of stating something that is absolutely valid. Do educated people tend sometimes to look down on the less educated? Sadly they often do, and that is politics aside. So too the beautiful look down on the less attractive, the smart to the dim, the rich to the poorer. It’s not flattering but it’s human nature, a bad facet of it. But it’s not just about politics.

But back to the alleged hypocrisy, pointing hypocrisy out doesn’t mean one adopts the position of the hypocrite, no matter how attractive as that specious argument seems to be to the Trumpkins.

These people pride themselves on their ignorance. They wear it as a badge of honor. That's why we should write them off.

You're never going to convince them to change. The reason is because changing would entail acknowledging their past decision making and judgement were poor and for all of them, admitting their judgement is poor is simply something their narcissism won't allow.

You will never hear Conservatives say their judgment is poor.

 

[Flash]

If you think those two positions are equally intolerant, then you're a coward. You can't bring yourself to admit that sometimes, things are black and white.

The inherent position of Conservatives, you seem to be arguing, is intolerance. So any reaction to that intolerance you deem as equal intolerance, yet one intolerance doesn't exist without the other, not vice versa. If Conservatives stopped hating gay people, then liberals wouldn't have anything to be intolerant of. You see how that works? One side of the equation starts off in a place of intolerance and the other side reacts to it. But the inherent intolerance is only on one side.

So they're not equal, not in the least.

I can admit some things are black and white. Hating people is an example.

You make the mistaken assumption that the only reaction to a person hating gays is to hate them in return.

Assume a person is a good friend or close family member who you care about but had never discussed this topic. You lean this person hates gays. Do you now hate this person?

I did not say the inherent position of conservatives is intolerance, so intolerance is not just on one side.

If a liberal hates somebody because they own a gun, the intolerance is just on the liberal side. The gun owner could hate the liberal for hating him, but that would be juvenile and only double the hate in the world.

Trying to justify hate because it is for a better cause is creating the same problem. You can hate an attitude without hating a person holding that attitude.

Whether two things are equal does not mean they cannot not both be bad.

 

[cawacko]

Jesus fucking Christ...that was ten fucking years ago, and since then the whole nation's attitude on gay marriage has shifted. If Prop 8 were up for a vote today in CA, do you think it would still barely pass?

You are proclaiming yourself essentially superior and more tolerant because you are a political liberal and justifying your hate on those grounds. Yet the people you claim are superior are no different than anyone else

 

[LV426]

Whether a person is posturing is irrelevant to my point. If a group is talking and somebody brings up Tom and mentions he is a hunter or gun owner or religious fundamentalist or conservative Republican and group members smirk because they are critical of such people, it does not matter if Tom is posturing or not. That is an example of the intolerance I mentioned. Conservatives don't smirk as much as they just shake their head.

The problem is you've stereotyped an entire region based on the posturing done by the most vocal in that region.

Most of the people in the South don't hunt, don't fish, don't own a gun.

Conservatives don't smirk, instead they scream "Jews will not replace us!" and throw a Seig Heil.

 

[LV426]

You should see the bass pro shop in Memphis! I think the south embraces the stereotype. I like fishing, always have. I don’t think I would enjoy shooting .

Of the very few -and I mean few- times I've been in an outdoor store here in Georgia, it's always as dead as a graveyard. There's a Bass Pro Shop up in Acworth that has never seen a full lot, not even on Black Friday.

 

[LV426]

If we are tolerant why weren't we ahead of the curve? Why did we have to wait for others to become tolerant before we did?

They were you stupid asshole.

Gavin Newsom was the first mayor in the country to allow gay marriage.

Do you think Prop 8 would barely pass in 2018 the way it passed in 2008?

 

[LV426]

Bro, you wanted peoples kids to suffer and die because you didn't like how they voted. That's tolerance? Think like I do or you and your kin should suffer? By what definition?

Stop trying to change the subject and explain your shitty position!

You said yourself liberals are reacting "intolerantly" to inherent intolerance of Conservatives.

So without the inherent intolerance of Conservatives, there's no "intolerant" reaction, is there?

 

[cawacko]

These people pride themselves on their ignorance. They wear it as a badge of honor. That's why we should write them off.

You're never going to convince them to change. The reason is because changing would entail acknowledging their past decision making and judgement were poor and for all of them, admitting their judgement is poor is simply something their narcissism won't allow.

You will never hear Conservatives say their judgment is poor.

Says the guy who would probably still be telling us socialism/communism is the future until its total and utter failure