countryboy
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Not nearly as low. And black, and Hispanic unemployment numbers were rather high under O'Bama. But leftist loons won't acknowledge that those are at HISTORICAL LOWS under Trump.
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Not nearly as low. And black, and Hispanic unemployment numbers were rather high under O'Bama. But leftist loons won't acknowledge that those are at HISTORICAL LOWS under Trump.
Sorry, data shows many of them are only barely hanging on. It’s more than just free mammogram, it is the fact that Medicaid won’t be supported, there will be cut backs, and people won’t be required to have insurance, which will increase the number of emergency rooms visits and non payment by people without insurance.
Irish Exit
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You don't know what will or will not happen with medicaid support, and those uninsured ER visits were previously covered by funding diverted to help pay for the partial medicaid expansion. In the mean time 5 million working poor people are still ineligible for subsidies or medicaid-are they dying in the streets?
They aren’t dying in the street, but they will die from lack of getting proper treatment.
Irish Exit
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We are all going to die. Why wasn't medicaid expansion fully funded? Why did the gap ever exist? Why couldn't medicaid expansion have been fully funded without disrupting the private insurance market? Our local Sears is closing. Had several people tell me they raised all their prices and then marked them down to make it appear like you were getting a great deal when you weren't. That is my view of Obamacare.
Congress supports medicine for profit, insurance lobbyist are effective, that is why the ACA didn’t work.
You jelly that someone stole your side's schtick?
Rural hospitals in states that set up insurance exchanges and Medicaid expansion did fine. Rural hospitals in states that declined the Medicaid expansion have done poorly. So if we need to point fingers, let's point them at the governors and legislatures of those states that elected not to participate.
There are some positives:
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PoliTalker
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Hello and welcome Loving91390,
Currently.
And it should also be noted that today's unemployment rate does not compare equally with rates from the 60's because most jobs in the 60's were full-time jobs, and now the trend is for more part-time jobs.
The BLS counts any part time job as 'employed,' so if a worker only works one hour per week, that worker is counted as employed.
In today's economy employers rely on a greater proportion of part-time workers than in the 60's.
Employers don't want to pay benefits so they now tend to take on two or three part-time workers to fill one full-time position. That way they don't have to pay benefits or overtime.
Currently.
And it should also be noted that today's unemployment rate does not compare equally with rates from the 60's because most jobs in the 60's were full-time jobs, and now the trend is for more part-time jobs.
The BLS counts any part time job as 'employed,' so if a worker only works one hour per week, that worker is counted as employed.
In today's economy employers rely on a greater proportion of part-time workers than in the 60's.
Employers don't want to pay benefits so they now tend to take on two or three part-time workers to fill one full-time position. That way they don't have to pay benefits or overtime.
PoliTalker
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Hello hvilleherb,
Trump did nothing to cause the economic recovery. The economy was already recovering nicely due to Obama.
The economy took off the day after the election, while Obama was still president.
Any bump has been all speculative. Just the belief that Trump would do something has been the biggest factor.
And when that runs sour, there is a yuge Trump recession right around the bend.
He is getting it ramped up with the trade war.
Too bad he screwed us on the debt.
Can you say unsustainable debt?
You do understand a recession raises the debt, but when the economy is good that's when you can pay it down?
We should be paying down the debt.
We need to tax the rich more and start paying down the debt right now.
That would be the responsible thing to do.
Too bad Republicans don't understand that.
The Republican pipe dream is to cut taxes to zero and actually have the government pay everybody dividends instead of collecting taxes. Then put it all on the debt. Hey why not? We no longer care about the debt. What could possibly go wrong?
Trump did nothing to cause the economic recovery. The economy was already recovering nicely due to Obama.
The economy took off the day after the election, while Obama was still president.
Any bump has been all speculative. Just the belief that Trump would do something has been the biggest factor.
And when that runs sour, there is a yuge Trump recession right around the bend.
He is getting it ramped up with the trade war.
Too bad he screwed us on the debt.
Can you say unsustainable debt?
You do understand a recession raises the debt, but when the economy is good that's when you can pay it down?
We should be paying down the debt.
We need to tax the rich more and start paying down the debt right now.
That would be the responsible thing to do.
Too bad Republicans don't understand that.
The Republican pipe dream is to cut taxes to zero and actually have the government pay everybody dividends instead of collecting taxes. Then put it all on the debt. Hey why not? We no longer care about the debt. What could possibly go wrong?
PoliTalker
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Irish Exit
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The ACA didn't work because the dems were more concerned about getting women voters than they were designing an effective health insurance program that actually addressed access for the poor. John McCain suggested at the Blair House Summit that there was too much favoritism in the bill and Obama proclaimed nope the election was over. Yes lobbyist are effective, but you can't lay this all at their feet. I guess it depends on where you live, but in my area I understand that medicaid patients and increasingly medicare patients as well have a hell of a time even finding people other than the ER to treat them because the reimbursement rates are so low, and our for profit hospital still streets those people with minimal care and a referral unless they have a pressing need for care. Even among those people with the pressing need for care, they try to shove them off on non-profits in the region if at all possible. I mean it is lovely that a mother of three in the suburbs in a home making twice the median income can get some free birth control, but that comes at the expense of the precise people this effort was allegedly targeting to help.
You really are quite full of malarkey.
Liberals are just fine with killing jobs in coal and steel. Why the sudden concerns?
Mason Michaels
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What's your point that Obama left Trump a good economy that the Orange pervert is fucking up
Your predictions are never right; I am comforted by that. In truth, hospital openings will increase if ACA is killed.
PoliTalker
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WTF is this with starting threads like this? Just weird.
PoliTalker
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Hello Flash,
Noted.
There are gains.
But the losses exceed the gains.
Net negative GDP impact.
Noted.
There are gains.
But the losses exceed the gains.
Net negative GDP impact.